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Oct 22, 2010 1:07 AM
coyotes .. funniest pics ever .. besides your tattoos j/k :)
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Oct 22, 2010 5:47 AM
The whining fest continues if your team is losing they are losing to privates and publics.
Oct 22, 2010 5:47am
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Oct 22, 2010 6:13 AM
Spread All Day;528316 wrote:Every major program in ohio RECRUITS. Ursuline, Massion, Mooney, Stuby, you name it

I hate Massion. They're the worst.
Oct 22, 2010 6:13am
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Oct 22, 2010 6:25 AM
Be Nice;527550 wrote:Catholic schools recruit. True or false?
True. However, it should be noted that they have to recruit in order to maintain their admissions numbers. All private schools recruit students to attend their schools. Why it's even questioned I simply don't understand.
Oct 22, 2010 6:25am
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Oct 22, 2010 11:05 AM
Con_Alma;528360 wrote:True. However, it should be noted that they have to recruit in order to maintain their admissions numbers. All private schools recruit students to attend their schools. Why it's even questioned I simply don't understand.

I dont know all the fine print with the laws . Linsly WVA is a military academy and has had some outstanding football teams throughout the years it cannot participate in the WVA playoffs. Wheeling Central a single A team from the same town has in recent past had the best teams in all of WVA and they are known to get people as far away as Washington PA . I dont understand that . In Ohio people get tiffed because some of these guys that go to certain private schools get a free ride and some of them turn out to be thugs Catholic schools in a bigger city or metro area can pilfer several districts without any backlash what so ever . Now if one kid crosses the district line in a public school zone and he contributes to another school he is labled a recruit and bad feelings and acusations arise . It is a free pass for the teams we all know and have come to love and it is a major scrutiny on open enrollment kids who in 99.9% of the time are not even recruited . They just decided to change schools for other reasons are still labled recruits . Ofcourse this only applies when a kid goes and plays football for a better team .,and it probably didnt have anything to do with football. Double standards and double talk . I know the truth
Oct 22, 2010 11:05am
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Oct 22, 2010 11:40 AM
Thinthickbigred;528517 wrote:I dont know all the fine print with the laws . Linsly WVA is a military academy and has had some outstanding football teams throughout the years it cannot participate in the WVA playoffs....
I am not familiar with this academy but it is not unheard of for military academies to have 5th year high school students. In addition it is not uncommon for them to have out of State students. In the State of Ohio I believe that would make such a team ineligible to compete in any State tournaments.
Oct 22, 2010 11:40am
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Oct 22, 2010 2:15 PM
Kettering Alter is very good year end and year out. Good coaches or good recruiters? Both? What do you think? Or just no recruitment whatsoever?
Oct 22, 2010 2:15pm
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Oct 22, 2010 2:21 PM
Be Nice;527550 wrote:Catholic schools recruit. True or false?

Not just Catholic schools. Private schools in general. Even a certain public school around here has been recruiting. It happens everywhere.

I guess it all depends on what you consider "recruiting". Does "recruiting" strictly mean the school sending out a letter to a child asking that kid to enroll at a certain school? Or is recruiting the players, fans, and coaches of a school doing things to try to "woo" a kid to come to their school to play athletics? If it's the latter, then a local public school is, in fact, guilty. But again, it seems to happen everywhere. When and how could the OHSAA crack down? It's a rule that is hard to enforce.
Oct 22, 2010 2:21pm
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Oct 22, 2010 2:49 PM
Can we close this thread now??
Oct 22, 2010 2:49pm
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Oct 22, 2010 2:51 PM
^^ Good timing...
Oct 22, 2010 2:51pm
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Oct 22, 2010 2:56 PM
to be honest with you pitman...i didn't even read you post before I wrote that! Just sick of beating a dead horse...yes it happens all over the state, has it stopped...no, will it stop....no!

You can say all you want about people MOVING into a school district...
Oct 22, 2010 2:56pm
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Oct 22, 2010 3:17 PM
I wasn't talking about the person who moved. I was referencing a few different situation with different kids. But like you said, it happens everywhere. I'm sick and tired of beating the dead horse, too, but I came on this thread hoping to just get a definition of what "recruiting" means when being referred to in this context. What specific, tangible acts are people referring to when they mention high schools "recruiting" other high schools' athletes?
Oct 22, 2010 3:17pm
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Oct 22, 2010 3:20 PM
Yeah and that is a fair question to be asking...because it isn't really defined and has a lot of gray areas.
Oct 22, 2010 3:20pm
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Oct 22, 2010 3:33 PM
^^^OrrvilleQB....plain and simple...if you don't like the topic then don't get on the thread. You bring ZERO substance to it. Constantly talking about beating a dead horse? That is exactly what you're doing. Don't you have homework to do?
Oct 22, 2010 3:33pm
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Oct 22, 2010 4:04 PM
OrrvilleQB;528734 wrote:to be honest with you pitman...i didn't even read you post before I wrote that! Just sick of beating a dead horse...yes it happens all over the state, has it stopped...no, will it stop....no!.

Then why do you continue to click on the thread?
Oct 22, 2010 4:04pm
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Oct 22, 2010 4:33 PM
Con_Alma;528545 wrote:I am not familiar with this academy but it is not unheard of for military academies to have 5th year high school students. In addition it is not uncommon for them to have out of State students. In the State of Ohio I believe that would make such a team ineligible to compete in any State tournaments.

I think the out of state thing applies to Linsly . How Wheeling Central gets to do it I just dont know . Private schools in the Cinci metro area get kids from 3 states , Academies for some reason are inelligble for state participation . Its a double standard . Either let all schools openly recruit or you need two seperate playoff systems as they have in New Jersey and Texas .
Oct 22, 2010 4:33pm
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Oct 22, 2010 4:35 PM
Be Nice;528758 wrote:Don't you have homework to do?

Yeah I am going on a recruiting trip :D
Oct 22, 2010 4:35pm
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Oct 23, 2010 6:37 PM
^^^two seperate playoff systems would be the answer.
Oct 23, 2010 6:37pm
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Oct 23, 2010 8:35 PM
I am sick of hearing this nonsense. For Ursuline, all of the schools in their "Diocesan District" draw from the same kids. It is not like Ursuline goes out to the suburbs and picks the best players. All of the school districts below can get the same kids Ursuline get's by way of open enrollment. Hell the reason Fitch is so good this year is they are getting some great talent that would normally be going to Chaney.
Ursuline
Austintown-Fitch: Open Enrollment
Liberty: Open Enrollment
McDonald: Open Enrollment
Mineral Ridge: Open Enrollment
Girard: Open Enrollment
Hubbard: Open Enrollment
Oct 23, 2010 8:35pm
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Oct 23, 2010 8:52 PM
mvred;530158 wrote:...... Hell the reason Fitch is so good this year is they are getting some great talent that would normally be going to Chaney.
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So that's THE reason. Ok now.
Oct 23, 2010 8:52pm
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Oct 23, 2010 8:56 PM
Gardens35;530176 wrote:So that's THE reason. Ok now.

Not THE reason, but it is a factor. I should have rephrased my statement. Coaching is the biggest reason Fitch is where they are.
Oct 23, 2010 8:56pm
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Oct 23, 2010 9:07 PM
Fitch keep up the good work and Boardman you guys step it up too . Chaney and Rayen and East well I wish I could help you guys.
Oct 23, 2010 9:07pm
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Oct 23, 2010 9:21 PM
Thinthickbigred;530191 wrote:Fitch keep up the good work and Boardman you guys step it up too . Chaney and Rayen and East well I wish I could help you guys.

Rayen won't have many good seasons coming up. But then again, Rayen closed several years ago.
Oct 23, 2010 9:21pm
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Oct 23, 2010 9:59 PM
Hey mvred, there's a pm for you on the "guins" site................ c'mon man.
Oct 23, 2010 9:59pm
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Oct 23, 2010 10:40 PM
Be Nice;530038 wrote:^^^two seperate playoff systems would be the answer.

Why in the world would private schools stay members of the OHSAA if this happened?

They could easily create their own governing body and determine their own playoffs rules while realizing the revenue.
Oct 23, 2010 10:40pm