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Oct 20, 2010 2:59 AM
I thought I've also seen where some believe it's nothing more than the end of the cycle used in the Mayan calendar. Essentially meaningless, like why bother producing another 2000 years of calendar or whatever it is when it's 500 AD?

Of course, the idea that some of these ancient cultures were "helped" by aliens is fascinating, if not even a little compelling. On the other hand, we tend to ascribe unbelievable things to fantastical explanations when reality is we tend to grossly underestimate the ingenuity of man, even ancient man. But just to play along, if the Mayans were visited it's hardly inconceivable a race that advanced knew of a pending huge natural disaster (like what wiped out the dinosaurs). One might also surmise if that were the case, then in their demonstrated benevolence they might likely rescue us.
Oct 20, 2010 2:59am
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Oct 20, 2010 7:55 AM
No.. This will be the end of the world. The Anti Christ arrived in 2008 and will be re-elected President in 2012 :eek:
Oct 20, 2010 7:55am
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Oct 20, 2010 8:47 AM
Thread Bomber;525789 wrote:No.. This will be the end of the world. The Anti Christ arrived in 2008 and will be re-elected President in 2012 :eek:



LOL--touche' !!!!
Oct 20, 2010 8:47am
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Oct 21, 2010 8:05 AM
Y2K anyone?
Oct 21, 2010 8:05am
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Oct 21, 2010 9:06 AM
Scarlet_Buckeye;527099 wrote:Y2K anyone?

Y2k was at least a real problem. This was just random idiots getting upset about nothing.
Oct 21, 2010 9:06am
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Oct 21, 2010 11:56 AM
First of all, you can't prove or disprove an end-of-the-world prophecy until the day and time arrives. That being said, I don't believe for one second that the world is going to end in 2012.
gut;525761 wrote:I thought I've also seen where some believe it's nothing more than the end of the cycle used in the Mayan calendar. Essentially meaningless, like why bother producing another 2000 years of calendar or whatever it is when it's 500 AD?

You'd partially correct. They way that the Mayan calendar works is that it divides time into eras much like our calendar. Unlike our calendar which has two eras (BC and AD), the Mayan calendar has several. Most believe that December 21, 2012 doesn't mark the end of the world, but rater the end of an era in Mayan calendar. Now, the eras were usually accompanied by some major event, so it's likely that in the Maya's eyes something major will happen then, but it's likely that if the Mayans were still around today that they would have already developed a new calendar for the next era.
Oct 21, 2010 11:56am
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Oct 21, 2010 12:06 PM
FatHobbit;527130 wrote:Y2k was at least a real problem. This was just random idiots getting upset about nothing.

You can't be serious
Oct 21, 2010 12:06pm
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Oct 21, 2010 1:01 PM
Scarlet_Buckeye;527305 wrote:You can't be serious

I am serious. Lots of people made a lot of money rewriting code to handle 4 digit years. I will admit that the media made a huge deal out of it, but it was a problem and a lot of resources were used to fix it.

This is just nut jobs getting excited about nothing.
Oct 21, 2010 1:01pm
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Oct 21, 2010 5:15 PM
See what happens I guess. I'll wait to do my shopping though.
Oct 21, 2010 5:15pm
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Oct 21, 2010 6:22 PM
krambman;527295 wrote:
You'd partially correct. They way that the Mayan calendar works is that it divides time into eras much like our calendar. Unlike our calendar which has two eras (BC and AD), the Mayan calendar has several. Most believe that December 21, 2012 doesn't mark the end of the world, but rater the end of an era in Mayan calendar. Now, the eras were usually accompanied by some major event, so it's likely that in the Maya's eyes something major will happen then, but it's likely that if the Mayans were still around today that they would have already developed a new calendar for the next era.

Sounds rights. Thanks for the more detailed explanation.
Oct 21, 2010 6:22pm
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Oct 21, 2010 6:25 PM
So, the end of the Mayan calendar might coincide with a MAJOR event, but the date of the end of that calendar could be off by 50 or 100 years or more? Then if we can also make a case Dec 12th might not be the right day, 50-100+ years from now someone will be claiming the Mayans predicted a MAJOR event. Isn't that sort of how most of Nastradumus's predictions have "panned out"?
Oct 21, 2010 6:25pm
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Oct 21, 2010 6:30 PM
krambman;527295 wrote: if the Mayans were still around today

What do you mean? They make up over 50% of the population of Guatemala. I mean sure, they may not make their kids flat-headed cross-eyes anymore...or sharpen their teeth...but they are still weavin' the hell out of those huipiles.
Oct 21, 2010 6:30pm
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Oct 21, 2010 6:53 PM
Thread Bomber;525789 wrote:No.. This will be the end of the world. The Anti Christ arrived in 2008 and will be re-elected President in 2012 :eek:

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Oct 21, 2010 6:53pm
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Oct 21, 2010 8:21 PM
enigmaax;527835 wrote:What do you mean? They make up over 50% of the population of Guatemala. I mean sure, they may not make their kids flat-headed cross-eyes anymore...or sharpen their teeth...but they are still weavin' the hell out of those huipiles.

I meant "Mayan" as in the Mayan culture and religion, not the ethnic group.
Oct 21, 2010 8:21pm
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Oct 22, 2010 10:25 AM
FatHobbit;527367 wrote:I am serious. Lots of people made a lot of money rewriting code to handle 4 digit years. I will admit that the media made a huge deal out of it, but it was a problem and a lot of resources were used to fix it.

This is just nut jobs getting excited about nothing.

Had an insurance guy from Aflac just come in to our business and tell us that (on life insurance) when you turn 100, you get your benefit to you. They do this b/c the computer is a two digit system, and to the computer, you are dead. It's a real issue.
Oct 22, 2010 10:25am
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Oct 23, 2010 9:10 AM
FatHobbit;527367 wrote:I am serious. Lots of people made a lot of money rewriting code to handle 4 digit years. I will admit that the media made a huge deal out of it, but it was a problem and a lot of resources were used to fix it.

This is just nut jobs getting excited about nothing.

4 digit years? I think the 999 years before that had 4 digits also.

It's because most systems weren't designed to take years greater than 1999.
Oct 23, 2010 9:10am
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Oct 23, 2010 9:39 AM
Nate;529382 wrote:4 digit years? I think the 999 years before that had 4 digits also.

It's because most systems weren't designed to take years greater than 1999.

No, it's because most systems did years with two digits. For instance, 1999 appeared as 99. It was thought that when a computer saw 00 (for 2000) that it would flip out and stop working. It had to be rewritten to read 2000 instead of 00.
Oct 23, 2010 9:39am
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Oct 23, 2010 10:17 AM
Nate;529382 wrote:4 digit years? I think the 999 years before that had 4 digits also.

It's because most systems weren't designed to take years greater than 1999.

Seriously?
Oct 23, 2010 10:17am
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Oct 23, 2010 11:01 AM
I've heard both ways.
Oct 23, 2010 11:01am
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Oct 24, 2010 7:48 PM
I just spent 4-1/2 days in Cancun and took a day trip to Chichen Itza. It's all about the number system that the Mayans used. It sounded really complicated and to tell the truth, since I was a bit hungover, I don't remember much about it.
What Kramban posted is correct, though. It's just the calender meaning of the end/new era.
BTW, I do remember one tidbit: The mayan calender year only differs our calender year by 17.28 seconds. I don't know why that stands out in my memory, considering it was about 90 with relatively high humidity and I was sweating mohito's.
Oct 24, 2010 7:48pm
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Oct 24, 2010 11:49 PM
Ty Webb;525753 wrote:Sure looks like it....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20101019/sc_livescience/endoftheearthpostponed

Alot of buildup for something that was never really proven anyway
hmmmm, you mean 1. Hollywood
2. the ancient Mayans
and 3. Edgar Cayce
could be proven wrong????


thanks for that news flash.
Oct 24, 2010 11:49pm
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Oct 25, 2010 11:12 AM
ttt
Oct 25, 2010 11:12am