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Series62
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Feb 10, 2011 10:26pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's funny!Old Rider;671387 wrote:Now if only Coach Slaughter didn't have to deal with parents coming to him after games and at practice to whine about "little Johnny" (no pun intented towards myself) not getting enough playing time then he could focus more on being a coach and not a mediator of playing time/making people happy!
My words to those parents are this...Your lucky Coach Smith isn't still there and you have coach Slaughter who is more approachable, because Smitty would laugh in your face, tell you that your son stinks and then move him to JV to play the rest of the year regardless if he is a senior or not!
Get better or deal with it! Quit whining and let the coaches do what is best for the team!
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Series62
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Feb 10, 2011 10:48pm
Old Rider;671387 wrote:Now if only Coach Slaughter didn't have to deal with parents coming to him after games and at practice to whine about "little Johnny" (no pun intented towards myself) not getting enough playing time then he could focus more on being a coach and not a mediator of playing time/making people happy!
My words to those parents are this...Your lucky Coach Smith isn't still there and you have coach Slaughter who is more approachable, because Smitty would laugh in your face, tell you that your son stinks and then move him to JV to play the rest of the year regardless if he is a senior or not! Get better or deal with it! Quit whining and let the coaches do what is best for the team!
Perhaps some parents have a legitimate reason for concern. There are some players that start and play an ample amount of time and their contribution/performance is very minor. True, the coach/coaches do see the players everyday in practice, however it appears that they stick with those players despite their lackluster play. If some are not playing as a matter of discipline, why keep them on the team?sman;671564 wrote:agree oldrider......alot of parents think they're kids are the best. i sit near a couple parents who do nothing but complain about they're sons not playing enough.....they are'nt playing because they are not that good!!! Coaches are gonna play who they think will help them win.....period!! I think another thing that alot of us fans don't think of is that we don't see what happens in practice......the coaches see the kids everyday in practice. They know who can do and cant do!! Parents....let the coaches coach and you cheer the team on....not just your son!! Selfish parents + selfish players = losing!! Its hard enough to win with orrvilles schedule without these issues!!
And really, is Orrville's schedule really that tough?
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Series62
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Feb 10, 2011 10:57pm
So much irony in that statement!RedRider1;672703 wrote:....It's all about "win-win-win"....
Old Rider
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Feb 11, 2011 12:04am
I think Coach Slaughter is just now finding a rotation and the guys that were playing earlier and making little contributions have found their spot... The players contributing/playing the most minutes now are those who Coach feels are the best and give us the best chance to win...period! Its not about making folks happy and it shouldn't be! Just because you played some early in the season means nothing. Sometimes you get only a few minutes to prove you belong on the floor...take advantage of it.Series62;673856 wrote:Perhaps some parents have a legitimate reason for concern. There are some players that start and play an ample amount of time and their contribution/performance is very minor. True, the coach/coaches do see the players everyday in practice, however it appears that they stick with those players despite their lackluster play. If some are not playing as a matter of discipline, why keep them on the team?
And really, is Orrville's schedule really that tough?
RedRider1
Posts: 3,850
Feb 11, 2011 7:29am
Let's not forget coach is a defensive minded coach....these kids know if they don't play defense, they don't play.
Maybe their "contribution" is minor in terms of points, but they play good defense, thus their playing time. Who knows.
Maybe their "contribution" is minor in terms of points, but they play good defense, thus their playing time. Who knows.
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Series62
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Feb 11, 2011 8:27am
One of the players I am referring to seemed to make the most of his time in the two games he played, aand he performed much better offense and defense then the guy he subbed for. After that, he's seen very limited action. Who said it was about making "folks" happy? And there are some that have been on the floor early in the season and are still on the floor that haven't proved it, offense or defense!Old Rider;673952 wrote:I think Coach Slaughter is just now finding a rotation and the guys that were playing earlier and making little contributions have found their spot... The players contributing/playing the most minutes now are those who Coach feels are the best and give us the best chance to win...period! Its not about making folks happy and it shouldn't be! Just because you played some early in the season means nothing. Sometimes you get only a few minutes to prove you belong on the floor...take advantage of it.
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Series62
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Feb 11, 2011 8:33am
Where at did you see good defense? I saw moments of it, but it is not consistent.RedRider1;674025 wrote:Let's not forget coach is a defensive minded coach....these kids know if they don't play defense, they don't play.
Maybe their "contribution" is minor in terms of points, but they play good defense, thus their playing time. Who knows.
RedRider1
Posts: 3,850
Feb 11, 2011 8:49am
Just stating what I know to be true....
In our 6 wins, we're holding teams to around 45 points.
In our 9 losses, we're allowing 60 points per game.
So it's obvious when we commit to play defense (which isn't always), it pays off.
In our 6 wins, we're holding teams to around 45 points.
In our 9 losses, we're allowing 60 points per game.
So it's obvious when we commit to play defense (which isn't always), it pays off.
Old Rider
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Feb 11, 2011 10:18am
Series62;674060 wrote:One of the players I am referring to seemed to make the most of his time in the two games he played, aand he performed much better offense and defense then the guy he subbed for. After that, he's seen very limited action. Who said it was about making "folks" happy? And there are some that have been on the floor early in the season and are still on the floor that haven't proved it, offense or defense!
My fault...maybe I should have said making Mommy and Daddy happy after they come in whinning about playing time. I was just saying it would make coach Slaughter's job a lot easier if he didn't have to deal with this. That being said, I think he has handled all of it very well. Certainly better than I would...LOL
Everyone has their own thoughts on who should or shouldn't be playing more...but as far as playing time, it is getting close to tourny time and Coach is finding his rotation. Those who are not playing as much now may may not see any increase in playing time but when they get a chance, they need to make the most of it and help this team win.
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Series62
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Feb 11, 2011 1:52pm
Why is that? Is it because of the tough schedule that Orrville has?RedRider1;674071 wrote:...So it's obvious when we commit to play defense (which isn't always)....
RedRider1
Posts: 3,850
Feb 11, 2011 2:20pm
Don't ask me about schedule......I've never used schedule as an excuse for our 9 losses.
My point is about defense, I've banged that drum forever...you wont always have a great shooting night, but you can always play good defense.
Kids just want to score and shoot 3's.....not play defense....so it's always a tough sell for a coach.
My point is about defense, I've banged that drum forever...you wont always have a great shooting night, but you can always play good defense.
Kids just want to score and shoot 3's.....not play defense....so it's always a tough sell for a coach.
OQB
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Feb 11, 2011 8:31pm
Any score update?
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golfman61
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Feb 11, 2011 8:40pm
51-36 LEX 4 min to go
RedRider1
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Feb 11, 2011 9:21pm
63-44 final
Lex led 31-24 at half....outscored us 18-5 in the 3rd to lead 49-29 after 3.
When we let opponents score 60+, we're 1-9 when opponents score 55 or more against us.....0-6 when teams score more than 60 on us.
Maybe more than deciding to play defense, I think we just aren't a very good offensive team. Tonight was our 9th game on the season where we scored 55 or less.
Lex led 31-24 at half....outscored us 18-5 in the 3rd to lead 49-29 after 3.
When we let opponents score 60+, we're 1-9 when opponents score 55 or more against us.....0-6 when teams score more than 60 on us.
Maybe more than deciding to play defense, I think we just aren't a very good offensive team. Tonight was our 9th game on the season where we scored 55 or less.
RedRider1
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Feb 11, 2011 9:25pm
Scored a total of 14 points COMBINED in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. Was it turnovers again? Poor shooting?
OQB
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Feb 11, 2011 9:39pm
SMH....all the WCAL fans in the district are going to be very happy they actually have a chance this year.
THE4RINGZ
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Feb 11, 2011 9:41pm
Northwestern at Orrville tomorrow night, correct?
RedRider1
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Feb 11, 2011 10:43pm
affirmative.
Mr. Russell
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Feb 12, 2011 11:33am
OrrQb, WCAL schools aren't scared of Orrville on the hardwood and they haven't been recently, even Norwayne beat one of the state title teams. There is always a chance, in every sport come tournament time, you know that. Respect is definitely there, but never will they be scared.
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Series62
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Feb 12, 2011 3:58pm
By that example of 1-9, (my bad, 1-10) that it's obvious that you can't "always play good defense"!RedRider1;674441 wrote:Don't ask me about schedule......I've never used schedule as an excuse for our 9 losses.
My point is about defense, I've banged that drum forever...you wont always have a great shooting night, but you can always play good defense.
Kids just want to score and shoot 3's.....not play defense....so it's always a tough sell for a coach.
Last night I saw good use of the JV to Varsity upgrades, that was a poor example.
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Series62
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Feb 12, 2011 4:02pm
Does that mean you'll have a legitimate excuse if Orrville doesn't beat any of the WCAL teams?OrrvilleQB;674960 wrote:SMH....all the WCAL fans in the district are going to be very happy they actually have a chance this year.
RedRider1
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Feb 12, 2011 4:30pm
Right now, Northwestern and Hillsdale are better than us. Hillsdale proved it, and Northwestern has their chance tonight.
I think it's a tossup between us and Smithville right now.
I think it's a tossup between us and Smithville right now.
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1486wd
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Feb 12, 2011 4:45pm
its probably a toss up with dalton as well who has beaten hillsdale, northwestern, and smithvillethis season
riders1
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Feb 12, 2011 4:56pm
Series62;675790 wrote:Does that mean you'll have a legitimate excuse if Orrville doesn't beat any of the WCAL teams?
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1486wd
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Feb 12, 2011 5:17pm
for the record though, I think orrville beats northwestern tonight. The huskies have one really, really good player and a bunch of average ones. I think orrville's athleticism will limit mckean just enough to win,