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Nick Mangold

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Oct 11, 2010 9:39 PM
wildcats20;516797 wrote:Justin...what's the deal with O Cab??

Reds will hopefully decline his option which would cost $1m. It's $4m to bring him back. Janish is his equal offensively but far, far superior defensively.
Oct 11, 2010 9:39pm
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Oct 11, 2010 9:40 PM
Correct.

Just looking at the lineup you posted at me wondering.
Oct 11, 2010 9:40pm
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mhs95_06

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Oct 11, 2010 9:42 PM
Who the opening day starter is in 2011, just like in 2010, is irrelevant.
Oct 11, 2010 9:42pm
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Oct 11, 2010 9:42 PM
I love Carl Crawford.

Paul Janish will not be the main SS with Dusty Baker at the helm. Maybe go get a Royce Clayton or Alfredo Griffin or something.
Oct 11, 2010 9:42pm
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Nick Mangold

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Oct 11, 2010 9:44 PM
mhs95_06;516811 wrote:Who the opening day starter is in 2011, just like in 2010, is irrelevant.

Correct. But I'd bet my house that it's Arroyo.
Oct 11, 2010 9:44pm
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Nick Mangold

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Oct 11, 2010 9:44 PM
Ironman92;516813 wrote:I love Carl Crawford.

Paul Janish will not be the main SS with Dusty Baker at the helm. Maybe go get a Royce Clayton or Alfredo Griffin or something.

I lol'd.
Oct 11, 2010 9:44pm
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Oct 11, 2010 9:47 PM
Alfredo was quite the SS back when Dusty was towards the end of his career.

Alfredo could play SS and bat 8th in case he couldn't make it through the game Dusty wouldn't have to insert Paul freaking Janish into the top portion of the lineup.
Oct 11, 2010 9:47pm
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Nick Mangold

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Oct 12, 2010 12:09 AM
Ironman92;516821 wrote:Alfredo was quite the SS back when Dusty was towards the end of his career.

Alfredo could play SS and bat 8th in case he couldn't make it through the game Dusty wouldn't have to insert Paul freaking Janish into the top portion of the lineup.

I like where your head is at.
Oct 12, 2010 12:09am
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Oct 12, 2010 8:26 AM
I also believe Arroyo will be the opening day starter next year, and the Reds have a good problem as far as pitching goes. I think the main upgrade needs to come in LF, love Jonny, but he was basically ineffective for the last half of the season. I hope Bruce comes back hitting the ball like he did over the last couple months, he could be a 40 HR guy protecting Votto.
Oct 12, 2010 8:26am
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Oct 12, 2010 9:40 AM
How bout Jayson Werth in LF for the Reds? He is going to be a free agent.
Oct 12, 2010 9:40am
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Nick Mangold

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Oct 12, 2010 9:47 AM
SportsAndLady;517207 wrote:How bout Jayson Werth in LF for the Reds? He is going to be a free agent.

I would not be opposed to that.
Oct 12, 2010 9:47am
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Oct 12, 2010 11:07 AM
Definitely wouldn't mind Werth, as he and Crawford are the 2 best OF free agents, unfortunately Werth is a Boras client, so that could be a bad thing.
Oct 12, 2010 11:07am
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Oct 12, 2010 12:27 PM
I'd love to have Werth/Crawford. But I don't see them outbidding any of the big market teams
Oct 12, 2010 12:27pm
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Oct 12, 2010 8:48 PM
Anyone expect to get Chapman over the Sox, Dodgers, Yankees and Cubs?

Seriously.......a top of the order guy who is fast, black, still in his prime and awesome....Carl Crawford could be that rare player Dusty and Reds fans like equally......not sure whether or not he wails for a HR at 14 out of every 15 first pitches....but I'm sure Dusty could teach him that.......I mean he is the 4 time manager of the year.
Oct 12, 2010 8:48pm
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Oct 12, 2010 8:49 PM
I'd be pretty happy with Werth as well.
Oct 12, 2010 8:49pm
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Oct 12, 2010 10:35 PM
If Crawford comes to the Reds i may have to be a casual Reds fan
Oct 12, 2010 10:35pm
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Oct 13, 2010 1:17 PM
I was listening to the radio yesterday and someone proposed that the Reds should look at making a trade in the division with the Pirates to get McCutchen. I agree with the guys thoughts that that would help solve leadoff issues and increase your speed on the base paths. What are your thoughts on this, realistic or unrealistic?
Oct 13, 2010 1:17pm
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Oct 14, 2010 1:50 AM
McCutchen is a real nice player but no way that's happening. If it did happen, I'd be pretty happy about that. McCutchen in LF, Stubbs in CF, and Bruce in RF and you instantly have one of the most athletic, fastest, and best defensive outfields in baseball.
Oct 14, 2010 1:50am
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Oct 14, 2010 9:14 PM
....wouldn't be as fast, athletic or defensive as if they obtained Crawford

I think McCutchen would fit right into how Dusty has guys hitting...he can definately wail away with many of the current Reds. McCutchen definately has many great abilities....but career-wise he would excel as a player far more under other managers.

He certainly fits all the molds Dusty desires.
Oct 14, 2010 9:14pm
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Oct 15, 2010 11:07 AM
what about taking a flyer on brandon webb?
Oct 15, 2010 11:07am
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Oct 15, 2010 12:29 PM
I can't imagine Pittsburgh trading McCutchen. The fanbase would burn down PNC Park. He is one of the young stars they have finally developed, the last thing fans want to see is another good player dealt for "potential"
Oct 15, 2010 12:29pm
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Oct 15, 2010 4:45 PM
Early Cuyler;518313 wrote:I was listening to the radio yesterday and someone proposed that the Reds should look at making a trade in the division with the Pirates to get McCutchen. I agree with the guys thoughts that that would help solve leadoff issues and increase your speed on the base paths. What are your thoughts on this, realistic or unrealistic?

Laughable. Pirates have McCutchen through 2015, so they have no reason to trade him. Whoever proposed that's the sort of person who buys EA sports games, makes all sorts of crazy trades and legit thinks they'd make a great GM.
Oct 15, 2010 4:45pm
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Oct 15, 2010 6:06 PM
Heretic;520520 wrote:Laughable. Pirates have McCutchen through 2015, so they have no reason to trade him. Whoever proposed that's the sort of person who buys EA sports games, makes all sorts of crazy trades and legit thinks they'd make a great GM.

Yeah, But the Pirates operate their organization like a person who plays EA sports games.....
Oct 15, 2010 6:06pm
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Oct 15, 2010 6:21 PM
^^
I'll give you that. But McCutchen is still cheap, so there's no way they'll get rid of him now. If this was 2014 when he's potentially close to breaking the bank (if he continues to improve), I wouldn't be surprised...but when they have him under lock-and-key cheap, I can't see it.

If Cincy wants "help" or something, we'll give 'em Ronnie Cedeno for a mid-level prospect or something to give them more SS depth.
Oct 15, 2010 6:21pm
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Oct 15, 2010 6:25 PM
Heretic;520586 wrote:^^
I'll give you that. But McCutchen is still cheap, so there's no way they'll get rid of him now. If this was 2014 when he's potentially close to breaking the bank (if he continues to improve), I wouldn't be surprised...but when they have him under lock-and-key cheap, I can't see it.

If Cincy wants "help" or something, we'll give 'em Ronnie Cedeno for a mid-level prospect or something to give them more SS depth.

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Oct 15, 2010 6:25pm