Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 6, 2010 8:09pm
Friday 6:07
Roy Oswalt vs Bronson Arroyo
Anyone for the Reds care to hit the ball to the opposite field?
The Reds must've made 30 HR swings against a pitcher that was in complete control. No adjustment whatsoever by the Reds.
Gotta adjust...fortunately for the Reds Roy Oswalt doesn't move the ball around anything like Halladay....but if our approach sucks again.....ugh
MUST win game 2. No ifs ands or buts.
Roy Oswalt vs Bronson Arroyo
Anyone for the Reds care to hit the ball to the opposite field?
The Reds must've made 30 HR swings against a pitcher that was in complete control. No adjustment whatsoever by the Reds.
Gotta adjust...fortunately for the Reds Roy Oswalt doesn't move the ball around anything like Halladay....but if our approach sucks again.....ugh
MUST win game 2. No ifs ands or buts.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 6, 2010 8:48pm
I really think the Reds will come out and play very well. And Bronson will pitch a gem.
Reds win 4-2.
Reds win 4-2.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Oct 6, 2010 8:58pm
Ironman92;509947 wrote:fortunately for the Reds Roy Oswalt doesn't move the ball around anything like Halladay
Uhhhh Oswalt's got some pretty damn good stuff. There's a reason he's been one of the top MLB pitchers of the past 5 years regardless of his record for a terrible Astros team.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Oct 6, 2010 9:09pm
lhslep134;510008 wrote:Uhhhh Oswalt's got some pretty damn good stuff. There's a reason he's been one of the top MLB pitchers of the past 5 years regardless of his record for a terrible Astros team.
Yes, but he doesn't come at you from so many different directions or locations.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Oct 6, 2010 9:16pm
Oswalt will throw a perfect game.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 6, 2010 9:20pm
First off, Dusty screwed the pooch giving the ball to the wildly inconsistent Volquez. But like I was telling a friend, maybe Dusty was crazy like a fox? Maybe he knew it didn't matter who pitched for us, the cards were stacked against the Reds. Now in game 2 we have a steady veteran who has been here before and can beat Oswalt.
Turn it around now. Envison Arroyo in game 1. His start gets wasted and now going to game 2 we have either Cueto or Volquez to pitch. Suddenly I'm a whole lot less confident...
Turn it around now. Envison Arroyo in game 1. His start gets wasted and now going to game 2 we have either Cueto or Volquez to pitch. Suddenly I'm a whole lot less confident...
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Oct 6, 2010 9:26pm
jordo212000;510032 wrote:First off, Dusty screwed the pooch giving the ball to the wildly inconsistent Volquez. But like I was telling a friend, maybe Dusty was crazy like a fox? Maybe he knew it didn't matter who pitched for us, the cards were stacked against the Reds. Now in game 2 we have a steady veteran who has been here before and can beat Oswalt.
Turn it around now. Envison Arroyo in game 1. His start gets wasted and now going to game 2 we have either Cueto or Volquez to pitch. Suddenly I'm a whole lot less confident...
As a Philly fan, I really thought Wood was going to start game 1 for the Reds. The Phillies usually struggle with lefties and Wood dominated the Phills in his start and the 3 1/3 innings he pitched tonight.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Oct 6, 2010 9:29pm
Tiger2003;510040 wrote:As a Philly fan, I really thought Wood was going to start game 1 for the Reds. The Phillies usually struggle with lefties and Wood dominated the Phills in his start and the 3 1/3 innings he pitched tonight.
Yeah we Reds fans had a thread discussing the move. Very few people thought Volquez pitching was a smart decision. Did Dusty forget that he was in Dayton about a month ago trying to straighten out his mechanics? Now all of the sudden he starts game 1? smh
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 6, 2010 9:34pm
Did someone really just try to explain to me why Roy Oswalt is effective?
Good God.
Oswalt is awesome...one of my favorite pitchers of the past decade...no one on here wanted Oswalt on the Reds more than I did. Oswalt throws a striaght fastball that has excellent late action...but it's hittable...ESPECIALLY if the god damn Reds go the other way some.
His fastball is straight and his amazing curve is 12 -6.
Halladay just threw a game of the best movement pitches in every direction that I have ever witnessed....far better chance versus Oswalt....but my main fear Friday is Bronson getting rocked....if he can get the Phillies to swing at some poor pitches early in the count he will be effective....but the Phillies if patient (like every playoff team except the Reds) should hit Bronson pretty hard.
I think it'll take 6+ to win game 2
Good God.
Oswalt is awesome...one of my favorite pitchers of the past decade...no one on here wanted Oswalt on the Reds more than I did. Oswalt throws a striaght fastball that has excellent late action...but it's hittable...ESPECIALLY if the god damn Reds go the other way some.
His fastball is straight and his amazing curve is 12 -6.
Halladay just threw a game of the best movement pitches in every direction that I have ever witnessed....far better chance versus Oswalt....but my main fear Friday is Bronson getting rocked....if he can get the Phillies to swing at some poor pitches early in the count he will be effective....but the Phillies if patient (like every playoff team except the Reds) should hit Bronson pretty hard.
I think it'll take 6+ to win game 2
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Oct 6, 2010 9:44pm
Ironman92;510053 wrote:I think it'll take 6+ to win game 2
I'm not to sure about 6+ runs to win game 2. I don't see Oswalt giving up more then 2 or 3 runs at the most. He has only gave 3+ runs in 3 starts since he came over to Philly and is 7-1. But you never know, that's why they play the game.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 6, 2010 9:51pm
We'll see.
No one knows.
No one knows.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 6, 2010 9:52pm
If Oswalt goes 6 2/3 and gives up 2-3 the bullpen could muster a touch of a meltdown....far crazier things have happened.
If anything I mean the Reds will need 6+ to win.
If anything I mean the Reds will need 6+ to win.
Non
Posts: 9,517
Oct 6, 2010 10:33pm
I think these are the two best teams in the NL and the winner will win the NLCS and reach the World Series.
Going to be tough for the Reds but one positive is they only have to beat the Phillies three times as opposed to four times if they met in the NLCS.
Halladay won his start, which seemed like a safe bet. But if the Reds can come back and take Game 2 then it's series on.
Going to be tough for the Reds but one positive is they only have to beat the Phillies three times as opposed to four times if they met in the NLCS.
Halladay won his start, which seemed like a safe bet. But if the Reds can come back and take Game 2 then it's series on.
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 7, 2010 6:36pm
Reds probably plan on starting Laynce Nix in Game 2 over Gomes.... Nix's career vs. Oswalt is 9-for-17 (.529) with three doubles, one triple and two home runs with four RBIs. His on-base-plus slugging percentage of 1.732.
http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101007&content_id=15480770&vkey=news_cin&c_id=cin
http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101007&content_id=15480770&vkey=news_cin&c_id=cin
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Oct 7, 2010 6:58pm
Can't wait for game 2. I will be taking the short 2 hour train ride to Philly to watch this one.
Go Phillies!!
Go Phillies!!
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 8, 2010 10:49am
Im feelin good about this game. Reds win 5-4. Votto hits a solo shot in the 8th to put them ahead.
j_crazy
Posts: 8,372
Oct 8, 2010 11:10am
IMO the reds will be swept.
and i take no pleasure in saying that since i'm a closet reds fan.
and i take no pleasure in saying that since i'm a closet reds fan.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Oct 8, 2010 1:26pm
Rotinaj;511612 wrote:Im feelin good about this game. Reds win 5-4. Votto hits a solo shot in the 8th to put them ahead.
5-4 is the score I'm thinking as well. I think Oswalt pitches well and leaves as the winning pitcher but his bullpen blows it for him.
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 8, 2010 2:39pm
Reds Lineup:
Phillips 2B
Cabrera SS
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Nix LF
Bruce RF
Stubbs CF
Hanigan C
Arroyo P
Phillips 2B
Cabrera SS
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Nix LF
Bruce RF
Stubbs CF
Hanigan C
Arroyo P
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 8, 2010 3:28pm
Why make 2 changes already? Is Dusty panicking?
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Oct 8, 2010 3:29pm
karen lotz;511922 wrote:Why make 2 changes already? Is Dusty panicking?
Nix has a 1.732 OPS vs Oswalt and Hanigan always catches Bronson.
karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Oct 8, 2010 4:06pm
justincredible;511924 wrote:Nix has a 1.732 OPS vs Oswalt and Hanigan always catches Bronson.
Ah makes sense. Didn't know Arroyo had a personal catcher.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 8, 2010 6:09pm
BP with a big ole shot to left!!!!
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Oct 8, 2010 6:09pm
No no-hitter this time!
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Oct 8, 2010 6:09pm
PHILLIPS!!!! LEADOFF HR!!