fish82
Posts: 4,111
Oct 12, 2010 2:10pm
I'm blown away that you were able to find "accomplishments" on Teddy's own website...sheer madness right there. :rolleyes:Thread Bomber;517370 wrote:http://www.tedstrickland.com/content/pages/accomplishments/
theres three.....wasnt hard to find either.
I think that they all are stiffs, But the state house has been run by the Pubs fo 15 years and they are still in conrol of the house and the senate.
6th fastest growing economy in the nation? I don't suppose that's code for "6th least ass-sucking economy in the nation?"
No matter. With such an impressive list of accolades, I'm sure Teddy will coast to re-election.
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Oct 12, 2010 3:26pm
Bigdogg;517433 wrote:You are wasting your time trying to change anyone's mind on this forum. The Republican party has fucked this state up for years and they want to put them in charge of everything again. Guess what, the schools funding will not get fixed, our taxes will go up, and the jobs are still going to go where the cheap labor is or where the tax payers in other states will pony up the dollars to bribe them to move there. Kasich will be laughing all the way to the bank.
Strickland has had nearly 4 years to fix school funding. He needs 4 more years now to not get it done? Why should the voters reward 4 years of ineptitude with 4 more years of the same? Never mind...it's the same reason Americans send fools like Chuck Schumer, Charley Rangel, and Barney Frank back to Congress year after year after year after year.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Oct 12, 2010 3:48pm
Thread Bomber;517370 wrote:http://www.tedstrickland.com/content/pages/accomplishments/
theres three.....wasnt hard to find either.
I think that they all are stiffs, But the state house has been run by the Pubs fo 15 years and they are still in conrol of the house and the senate.
Really? You're taking things from Ted Strickland's website? Come on now lol....
Thread Bomber
Posts: 1,851
Oct 12, 2010 4:05pm
Y-Town Steelhound;517564 wrote:Really? You're taking things from Ted Strickland's website? Come on now lol....
You asked for 1... I gave you three. Provide a rebuttle or GTFO.
I want someone to name ONE positive thing that Strickland has done in his time in office that warrants him re-election.
You may not like the source, but I have a feeling that anything provided would not be satisfactory unless it came from the Heritage Foundation.theres three.....wasnt hard to find either.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Oct 12, 2010 5:20pm
To be honest though, Ohio's school funding has been terrible/unconstitutional long before Strickland came in and no one could/would fix it.BGFalcons82;517527 wrote:Strickland has had nearly 4 years to fix school funding. He needs 4 more years now to not get it done? Why should the voters reward 4 years of ineptitude with 4 more years of the same? Never mind...it's the same reason Americans send fools like Chuck Schumer, Charley Rangel, and Barney Frank back to Congress year after year after year after year.
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Oct 12, 2010 5:25pm
I Wear Pants;517650 wrote:To be honest though, Ohio's school funding has been terrible/unconstitutional long before Strickland came in and no one could/would fix it.
Agreed. But didn't Strickland run on the platform that he would fix it? Seriously....why isn't it fixed? I know this issue has been around for umpteen years...why won't it get solved?
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Oct 12, 2010 5:33pm
No it's still a good criticism. He hasn't fixed it. It's just that I think there are more damning criticisms to be had of Strickland than that he didn't fix something that no one else has been able to either.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Oct 12, 2010 5:34pm
BGFalcons82;517653 wrote:Agreed. But didn't Strickland run on the platform that he would fix it? Seriously....why isn't it fixed? I know this issue has been around for umpteen years...why won't it get solved?
I honestly don't think anyone has a good solution.
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Oct 12, 2010 6:58pm
ptown_trojans_1;517661 wrote:I honestly don't think anyone has a good solution.
Then why not put one together and see what everyone thinks? Get it out in the open. Part of my problem with this whole "negotiation" phase is that it's all hush-hush. I supposed it's because nobody wants to be labeled as a tax-raiser or school-closer, but it's time for leadership. I think people will look favorably on those willing to take on a problem and lead others to a solution. So far...it's boneless jellyfish swirling in slime and no one with any cajones to fix it.
Thread Bomber
Posts: 1,851
Oct 12, 2010 7:27pm
There have been 3 pube Governors since the SCOTSOO declared the way the State funded the public schools in unconstitutional 1997. That's nearly 9 years of Republican leadership that did not fix it to Strickland's 45 months.
This is really a moot issue as no one knows how to fix the problem as thr SCOTSOO has only ruled on what NOT is constitutional.
The state of Ohio has been Governed in both houses by the pubes for over 15 years. Only the last 4 have had a Dem Governor.
The state went to hell LONG before Strickland too office in 2007
This is really a moot issue as no one knows how to fix the problem as thr SCOTSOO has only ruled on what NOT is constitutional.
The state of Ohio has been Governed in both houses by the pubes for over 15 years. Only the last 4 have had a Dem Governor.
The state went to hell LONG before Strickland too office in 2007
BGFalcons82
Posts: 2,173
Oct 12, 2010 7:45pm
Thread Bomber;517737 wrote:There have been 3 pube Governors since the SCOTSOO declared the way the State funded the public schools in unconstitutional 1997. That's nearly 9 years of Republican leadership that did not fix it to Strickland's 45 months.
Call Ted for his new campaign slogan...."Vote for me because I need 4 more years to prove I'm as worthless as the other party." Reading between the lines, are you thinking that Kasich will be just as inept on school funding as Strickland has been, just because he's a Republican?
Thread Bomber
Posts: 1,851
Oct 12, 2010 8:01pm
And you the same for Kasich?.........You still have not rebuked Teddy's "accomplishments".... Figured. 
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Oct 12, 2010 8:10pm
I think Kasich will be just as inept as Teddy on school funding because I haven't seen anything to convince me otherwise. Has nothing to do with an R or D next to his name.BGFalcons82;517747 wrote:Call Ted for his new campaign slogan...."Vote for me because I need 4 more years to prove I'm as worthless as the other party." Reading between the lines, are you thinking that Kasich will be just as inept on school funding as Strickland has been, just because he's a Republican?
And honestly I have no idea who I'm voting for as far as governor goes. Because on one hand, Strickland hasn't done a lot of the things he said he would and the state isn't in a great spot. But on the other hand I am levelheaded enough to realize that a lot of the problems he's had either were there when he started his term or would have been there no matter who was in office (doesn't give him a free pass for not fixing them but a little perspective never hurts).
I've yet to see anything from either side that makes me say "This is the guy I want to vote for/I think he'll be good in office". I hate voting on the premise of "I hate him the least".
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Oct 12, 2010 8:16pm
Thread Bomber;517754 wrote:And you the same for Kasich?.........You still have not rebuked Teddy's "accomplishments".... Figured.
The "6th best economic growth" is for a single quarter. Where does Ohio rank in that regard over his entire tenure? (hint: it's double digits and the first one is a "4"). You are refuted and otherwise owned. GTFO.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Oct 12, 2010 9:06pm
Except that one of them we know hasn't done anything, and the other one we don't know ... yet.I Wear Pants;517761 wrote:I think Kasich will be just as inept as Teddy on school funding because I haven't seen anything to convince me otherwise.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Oct 12, 2010 9:37pm
BGFalcons82;517724 wrote:Then why not put one together and see what everyone thinks? Get it out in the open. Part of my problem with this whole "negotiation" phase is that it's all hush-hush. I supposed it's because nobody wants to be labeled as a tax-raiser or school-closer, but it's time for leadership. I think people will look favorably on those willing to take on a problem and lead others to a solution. So far...it's boneless jellyfish swirling in slime and no one with any cajones to fix it.
Agreed and I wished Strickland would have done that once he was first elected.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Oct 12, 2010 10:23pm
Just because dude A hasn't done something doesn't mean that it makes dude B more likely to do something.CenterBHSFan;517846 wrote:Except that one of them we know hasn't done anything, and the other one we don't know ... yet.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Oct 13, 2010 7:39am
I Wear Pants;517914 wrote:Just because dude A hasn't done something doesn't mean that it makes dude B more likely to do something.
No, it doesn't. But it makes dude A, who hasn't done something, more likely to be gone.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Oct 13, 2010 9:17am
A morning present for Gibby....Rasmussen is coming out today with the latest poll with Kasich's lead down to 3 points. Fire up the band, Gibb! 
Ty Webb
Posts: 2,798
Oct 13, 2010 12:47pm
fish82;518099 wrote:A morning present for Gibby....Rasmussen is coming out today with the latest poll with Kasich's lead down to 3 points. Fire up the band, Gibb!
Good news...but Teddy still has to keep exposing Kasich's plans to drive this state into the Abyss
I stand by my prediction that Teddy wins by 1.5%
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 13, 2010 2:43pm
I Wear Pants;517914 wrote:Just because dude A hasn't done something doesn't mean that it makes dude B more likely to do something.
Objects at rest tend to remain at rest. Teddy is toast.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Oct 13, 2010 3:15pm
I got yet another automated telephone call today promoting Strickland. The only thing the message said was the fact that Strickland got the NRA's vote.
He's got nothing else to promote.
He's got nothing else to promote.
Writerbuckeye
Posts: 4,745
Oct 14, 2010 4:28pm
Ted has done NOTHING in his ads but go to the tired old class warfare schtick -- because he has NOTHING to run on where his record is concerned.
While the margins may be smaller, so long as an incumbent is under the 50 percent threshold, he's usually in big trouble.
While the margins may be smaller, so long as an incumbent is under the 50 percent threshold, he's usually in big trouble.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 14, 2010 5:02pm
Will be voting for Kasich, there's no doubt about it. I could never vote for a Democrat because if you're voting for a democrat you're probably an idiot.
Disclaimer: I do realize that some Republicans are also idiots, but there's a way higher probability of being an idiot if you vote Democrat, and you can take that to the bank.
Disclaimer: I do realize that some Republicans are also idiots, but there's a way higher probability of being an idiot if you vote Democrat, and you can take that to the bank.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Oct 14, 2010 5:29pm
Sleeper, if you vote according to what party the person is you're an idiot.