Glory Days;497853 wrote:we get cars from China?

It was an example. But, most of the parts for cars are made in other countries. (Mexico and China specifically)

dlazz;497822 wrote:Maybe not the same activity, but would you trust a car built by someone who has been working for 18 hours straight in China?

Didn't think so.

I'll trust neither. I will take a car built by sober Americans. We have plenty of them being built at plants all over the country. This plant obviously has a problem. Why do you keep trying to down play the obvious problem at this plant?

majorspark;498306 wrote:I'll trust neither. I will take a car built by sober Americans. We have plenty of them being built at plants all over the country. This plant obviously has a problem. Why do you keep trying to down play the obvious problem at this plant?

Because this "obvious problem" probably occurs everywhere, all over this country.

RelsonGracieBJJ;497549 wrote:I would call you a bitch to your face chump.

rydawg5;497551 wrote:Thats like a real internet hardass.. damn.. anger issues... i was just kidding fo sho..

That's what I like about these high school girls man, I get older, they stay the same age. -Wooderson

dlazz;498365 wrote:Because this "obvious problem" probably occurs everywhere, all over this country.

There is no evidence of that. But there is plenty of evidence of problems at this particular plant. Heads need to roll.

I'm not sure why some people are downplaying this. Even if this "happens everywhere" it shouldn't be ignored. Get rid of the problem workers, there is plenty of unemployed people that would gladly take their job. Just like I tell all the union people at my company, you are easily replaced. Unions don't nearly have the power they once had.

dwccrew;498685 wrote:I'm not sure why some people are downplaying this. Even if this "happens everywhere" it shouldn't be ignored. Get rid of the problem workers, there is plenty of unemployed people that would gladly take their job. Just like I tell all the union people at my company, you are easily replaced. Unions don't nearly have the power they once had.

That's the problem. The union protects these people vigorously under the premise that if it's hard to get rid of these guys then it's nearly impossible to get rid of the good ones. Basically what it boils down to. And falls more on the union leadership at the top. If you go down to the line stewards they are less tolerant of these bums and the good workers are actually offended by these types. But guys get written up or suspended and it gets kicked to the top where the union trades off safety "violations" for these guys' jobs.

It's a broad brush that bashes the union. Can't blame them for getting theirs in the good times, and even professionals in other industries have indirecly benefitted from those wages and benefits. The work ethic, particularly with the older union guys, is generally quite good. It's the 5% and the lazy, entitled younger workers (not that all or most young workers are) who are the problem.

http://wtvbam.com/news/articles/2010/sep/28/detroit-autoworkers-fired-after-drinking-during-lu/

13 workers fired

Good -- Lets just HOPE that the union does not get their jobs back for them after they file all their appeals (which I'm sure the Union will most certainly do)!