"As a quick refresher, I defined the "modern era" as 1946-present, because 1946 was the first true postwar season and the year before (1945) was the final time a service academy would win a National Championship"

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=7169

Congrats......what kind of offense did they have in 1946? Were you around to tell us about it? You guys always pick a year to make your argument look good. Start from when football started and your best friend Michigan was better. Most people care about football to as far as they remember it.

If Neil Paine says football started in 1946, it must be true.

Fif, bitch.

cats gone wild;485127 wrote:Congrats......what kind of offense did they have in 1946? Were you around to tell us about it? You guys always pick a year to make your argument look good. Start from when football started and your best friend Michigan was better. Most people care about football to as far as they remember it.

lol salty about OSU being the best?

Has anyone ever seen cbf and Neil Page in the same place at the same time?

karen lotz;485158 wrote:Has anyone ever seen cbf and Neil Page in the same place at the same time?

ahh, our resident "trolls" show up in force. Coulda predicted that pretty easily. But they in fact just solidify what many of us already know. Keep it coming. Are you on stage the entire week? Where do I get tickets!?

centralbucksfan;485175 wrote:ahh, our resident "trolls" show up in force. Coulda predicted that pretty easily. But they in fact just solidify what many of us already know. Keep it coming. Are you on stage the entire week? Where do I get tickets!?

Coming from the OSU chest thumper who always starts a topic bragging up OSU or starting most topics bashing the SEC/players/coaches/violations. Thats a troll, but you and sleeper believe else wise.

Hmmm, he lists OSU's best season as 1973, even though they didn't win a national title and tied Michigan.

I think I'll start a blog and claim Michigan as #1. Hold about as much weight.

cats gone wild;485177 wrote:Coming from the OSU chest thumper who always starts a topic bragging up OSU or starting most topics bashing the SEC/players/coaches/violations. Thats a troll, but you and sleeper believe else wise.

"Violations and SEC" being the KEY word. Thanks

WebFire;485178 wrote:Hmmm, he lists OSU's best season as 1973, even though they didn't win a national title and tied Michigan.

I think I'll start a blog and claim Michigan as #1. Hold about as much weight.

Cool. Post the link when your finished. I mean, there is an SEC blog. May as well start one for Michigan.

There is a modern era to football, much to the dismay of many fans who want to cling to before the forward pass and the modern rules of football.

With that said I am not sure 1946 is the exact year to select, but it is close to when the football we see now resembles what it was then. Football in 1920 does not resemble what we play today. The football is not even the same.

Bottomline. Ohio St is one of the greatest programs in all of college football and no one can take that away.

Zombaypirate;485184 wrote: Bottomline. Ohio St is one of the greatest programs in all of college football and no one can take that away.

I agree, but some posters need to quit posting certain years to make their argument sound better. We hear the certain years all the time with the SEC vs. B10 arguments.

cats gone wild;485185 wrote:I agree, but some posters need to quit posting certain years to make their argument sound better. We hear the certain years all the time with the SEC vs. B10 arguments.

FYI seeing that you are incapable of understanding certain things. This is an article posted by a NON poster. I thought it was interesting. Heard common man and the torg talking about. Thought it was a good read, thus I posted it. This article doesn't cover certain years. IT covers the past 50+ years.
Sorry if it hurt your feelings.

Lastly, the only ones who want to talk about certain years, are in fact MANY SEC fans who think everything prior to the year 2000 mean nothing. Prior to LSU winning the title, there were FEW SEC fans even on JJ Huddle. After that, they came out of the woodwork. Ironic or coincedence?

Sorry, my bad. And no, I didnt open the article.

cats gone wild;485193 wrote:Sorry, my bad. And no, I didnt open the article.

lol....typical. Way to jump the gun.

SEC!

cats gone wild;485193 wrote:Sorry, my bad. And no, I didnt open the article.

LoL...ya damn mouth breathin' knuckle dragger...

cats gone wild;485185 wrote:I agree, but some posters need to quit posting certain years to make their argument sound better. We hear the certain years all the time with the SEC vs. B10 arguments.

I assume and please correct me if I am wrong, when you refer to cats you are a LSU fan? I know there are other "cat" fans I just want to make sure. I have seen people reference the SEC when addressing you so I am assuming. If so LSU is also a great program and perhaps the best in this decade. It can be argued.

Can't really argue with the results.

cats gone wild;485177 wrote:Coming from the OSU chest thumper who always starts a topic bragging up OSU or starting most topics bashing the SEC/players/coaches/violations. Thats a troll, but you and sleeper believe else wise.

Yes, because you NEVER post threads chest thumpin' the SEC, at least OUR team can stand on its own 2 feet and doesn't need 11 others to swallow at the same time.

Enjoy being 2nd best because the Big Ten will forever and always be better than the SEC, and you just can't handle the truth LOL

cats gone wild;485193 wrote:Sorry, my bad. And no, I didnt open the article.

Always a good idea to know what you're arguing against instead of talking out of your backside. How did you not even realize that these weren't CBF's rankings? He posted a link?

Look, almost everyone dates the start of the modern-era of football to the end of WWII. This is when football as we know it really began. In the early days of football there were far fewer teams and the schools that had football programs far longer than others had a distinct advantage. After WWII there was a much more level playing field. Let's be honest, yes, all national championships count, however, should we really give the same weight to a championship won pre-WWII as we do to those won after WWII? If we do then we all need to shut up because Princeton (28) and Yale (26) have more than twice as many titles as anyone else. However, their titles are usually written off because they all came before the modern era of football (1950 and 1926 respectively). If Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, etc. get to give the same weight to all of their wins and titles regardless of when they happened, then you need to give the same credit to Princeton and Yale.

Like I said, most people date 1945 or 1946 as the beginning of modern-era football. As the author of the article said, they used to quantifiable data to determine their rankings. This removes personal bias. They used the Simple Rating System which takes team point per game differential relative to the NCAA average, and adjusting for strength of schedule. Basically, if you play a tough schedule and win by the best average margin, then you're the best. Is it the best or more thorough way to rank the teams? Probably not. Is it a pretty good and unbiased way to rank the teams? Yep, especially since it uses strength of schedule to compare very different schedules, and uses a teams point differential to see how well they did against that schedule.

Next time, read everything before jumping in and making a fool of yourself.

Krambman FTW!

Alabama
Michigan
Texas
Oklahoma
Nebraska
Miami
USC

All those teams have a huge claim to this title...and I would most likely put OSU 3rd or 4th on this list

I see buckeye fans like history when it favors them. But when Michigan fans bring up history we get told we're trolls and that we need to worry about the present bc the past doesnt matter any more....

Hb31187;485588 wrote:I see buckeye fans like history when it favors them. But when Michigan fans bring up history we get told we're trolls and that we need to worry about the present bc the past doesnt matter any more....

Yeah because only OSU supporters do that.....UM fans would never! PLEASE. :rolleyes: