fan_from_texas wrote:

charliehustle14 wrote:

Cleveland Buck wrote: I agree with Ferentz. Iowa is 10-2 and had several key injuries. I think they would still be unbeaten if Robinson and Stanzi didn't get hurt.

Stanzi or not, Iowa still should have handled NW. Especially with a 10-0 lead at the time.

And Ohio State should have handled Purdue.

There are some bad selections in aggregate, especially on the defensive side. I don't think the COY selection is particularly egregious, though; the selection generally is some combination of results + improvement + results over expectations. On that metric, Ferentz, Fitzgerald, and Tressel all have good arguments, and I don't think it would be unreasonable for any of the three to win.

Re locker room material: if being snubbed in the all-conference selections is necessary to motivate someone, that person has some serious issues. You shouldn't need that to be fired up to play in big time D1 football.

jpake1 wrote: I don't see why all of you guys are so shocked by the outcomes. I don't think any OSU player should have been 1st team offense. I agree with Boren and Saine being 2nd. The only possible grip is Posey not being 2nd over DJK and the NW guy. Pryor wasn't getting 2nd team, even though I don't think the NW guy was worthy.

As for defense, I see nothing wrong in terms of OSU players. There were just simply more guys more deserving than Heyward and Gibson to be 1st team. I don't even know if Gibson should be 2nd team. Look at the stats guys, they don't lie. There were a couple games that Heyward and Gibson didn't even show up (Purdue, Iowa, etc)-- but you forgot about those right? Rolle could have possibly been 2nd team, but it was a close call. OSU had the best defense, but its because they had a lot of really good players. In a sense, they took away from each other. Those guys can have their awards, OSU has their own