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Tigerfan00

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Nov 24, 2009 1:35 AM
Heyward and Coleman shouldve both been on first team instead of just Coleman and no Posey on either first or second team, he had a great year.
Nov 23, 2009 8:35pm
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Quint

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Nov 24, 2009 1:37 AM
Rolle wasn't even mentioned in the honorable mention list! Bryant Browning was though?! I thought he was terrible most of the season. . . more false starts than just about everyone except Shugarts. Posey definitely should have been mentioned. . . almost 800 yds receiving in our offense is incredible.
Nov 23, 2009 8:37pm
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ucfpengbuck

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Nov 24, 2009 2:31 AM
Iowa has seven players 1st team.
OSU has one.

If that is the case Tressel should be coach of the year if he one in the the Big 10 with less talent.
Nov 23, 2009 9:31pm
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holy_buckeye

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Nov 24, 2009 2:32 AM
Even the Big 10 hates Ohio State!

1 player on first team. Congrats Kurt.
Nov 23, 2009 9:32pm
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bigmanbt

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Nov 24, 2009 3:43 AM
Quint wrote: Rolle wasn't even mentioned in the honorable mention list! Bryant Browning was though?! I thought he was terrible most of the season. . . more false starts than just about everyone except Shugarts. Posey definitely should have been mentioned. . . almost 800 yds receiving in our offense is incredible.
Yeah, Bryant Browning and terrible should not go in the same sentence. I know he was bad last year, but he was playing out of position. All he did this year was be the highest graded performer on the Buckeye O-Line. Just sayin.
Nov 23, 2009 10:43pm
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elbuckeye28

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Nov 24, 2009 4:07 AM
OK so Iowa has 4 guys on the First team Defense while Ohio State only has 1. Lets compare the stats.

Rushing Defense
OSU-5th in the nation giving up 83 yards per game

Iowa-36th in the nation giving up 122 yards per game

Passing Defense
OSU-16th in the nation giving up 179 yards per game

Iowa-8th in the nation giving up 167 yards per game

Total Defense
OSU-6th in the nation giving up 262 yards per game

Iowa-10th in nation giving up 286 yards per game

Scoring Defense
OSU-5th in the nation giving up 12.17 points per game

Iowa-th in the nation giving up 15.50 points per game

So Ohio State gives up less yards and points while winning the conference outright, but somehow they can only manage one guy on first team all conference. Makes sense to me.
Nov 23, 2009 11:07pm
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Quint

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Nov 24, 2009 4:17 AM
bigmanbt wrote:
Quint wrote: Rolle wasn't even mentioned in the honorable mention list! Bryant Browning was though?! I thought he was terrible most of the season. . . more false starts than just about everyone except Shugarts. Posey definitely should have been mentioned. . . almost 800 yds receiving in our offense is incredible.
Yeah, Bryant Browning and terrible should not go in the same sentence. I know he was bad last year, but he was playing out of position. All he did this year was be the highest graded performer on the Buckeye O-Line. Just sayin.
Maybe this is why I'm not a collegiate offensive line coach. . .but I found myself screaming his name out in anger many times this season. . . granted, it was less than last year, but that's not saying much.
Nov 23, 2009 11:17pm
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devil1197

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Nov 24, 2009 5:18 AM
elbuckeye28 wrote: OK so Iowa has 4 guys on the First team Defense while Ohio State only has 1. Lets compare the stats.

Rushing Defense
OSU-5th in the nation giving up 83 yards per game

Iowa-36th in the nation giving up 122 yards per game

Passing Defense
OSU-16th in the nation giving up 179 yards per game

Iowa-8th in the nation giving up 167 yards per game

Total Defense
OSU-6th in the nation giving up 262 yards per game

Iowa-10th in nation giving up 286 yards per game

Scoring Defense
OSU-5th in the nation giving up 12.17 points per game

Iowa-th in the nation giving up 15.50 points per game

So Ohio State gives up less yards and points while winning the conference outright, but somehow they can only manage one guy on first team all conference. Makes sense to me.
Not to mention OSU leads the nation in takeaways.
Nov 24, 2009 12:18am
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ck9

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Nov 24, 2009 5:25 AM
Let the other ten teams vote for each other and pat each other on the back.
The Buckeyes will just keep keeping wining the championship!!
Nov 24, 2009 12:25am
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sleeper

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Nov 24, 2009 5:41 AM
Posey should have gotten a selection, it seems like at times he's the only receiver Pryor throws too. Heyward should have been a first team, Homan first team, terrible terrible list.
Nov 24, 2009 12:41am
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pooter

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Nov 24, 2009 6:37 AM
holy_buckeye wrote: Even the Big 10 hates Ohio State!

1 player on first team. Congrats Kurt.
No Body hates Ohio State other than Michigan... We dug our own hole by flopping in recent years Big BCS games.....
Nov 24, 2009 1:37am
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pooter

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Nov 24, 2009 6:38 AM
ck9 wrote: Let the other ten teams vote for each other and pat each other on the back.
The Buckeyes will just keep keeping wining the championship!!

What the B10???? Until they start winning the Big BCS games.... There will be naysayers....
Nov 24, 2009 1:38am
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Big Gain

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Nov 24, 2009 8:39 AM
Ohio State has won the past 5 Big Ten Titles. Tressel has never been selected Big Ten Coach of the year, not even the year Ohio State went 14-0 and won theh BCS Title.
Nov 24, 2009 3:39am
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darbypitcher22

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Nov 24, 2009 12:48 PM
wow.... scUM has the worst defense in the fucking league and gets 4 guys on first team if you count the punter...
Nov 24, 2009 7:48am
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redstreak one

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Nov 24, 2009 1:11 PM
IMO, this is big time locker room material for Tress next season! We smash the league up and down for the last 7 or so years, and this is how we are perceived! LOL Thats how I would be playing these selections up if I were the coach! Were the Rodney Dangerfield, we get no Respect! Pooter, how in the heck does losing bowl games have anything to do with league selections? These should be based on how the players played against conference opponents!
Nov 24, 2009 8:11am
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RiverRatRay

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Nov 24, 2009 1:35 PM
The heading should read,"Big Ten Awards Show, awards the losers". LOL

This is so stupid, it's not even funny.
Nov 24, 2009 8:35am
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Hb31187

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Nov 24, 2009 1:42 PM
lol whine much?
Nov 24, 2009 8:42am
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tigerfan82

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Nov 24, 2009 1:43 PM
not even this old man can believe some of these selections.................what a joke!!!!!!!
Nov 24, 2009 8:43am
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OneBuckeye

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Nov 24, 2009 1:44 PM
Its pretty much a problem with having so many people stand out on defense for OSU. With so many guys performing so well. One or two didn't stand out as much as one or two people on shitty defenses did. It is just a product of having so many top players on one defense. I think heyward homan and rolle deserved bettter.

Heyward
Gibson
Rolle
Coleman
Homan

even spitler played very well this year.
Nov 24, 2009 8:44am
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ytownfootball

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Nov 24, 2009 1:47 PM
Personally, it doesn't matter that only one Buck made 1st team, it just wreeks of envy from the other Big10 coaches and it's more than obvious to everyone who pays even a little attention. Makes them appear extremely petty.

It is disappointing for the players who did not get the nod, for them I do feel a little remorseful.
Nov 24, 2009 8:47am
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RiverRatRay

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Nov 24, 2009 1:53 PM
Thirty years since tOSU has had a COY.
Nov 24, 2009 8:53am
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jpake1

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Nov 24, 2009 3:33 PM
I don't see why all of you guys are so shocked by the outcomes. I don't think any OSU player should have been 1st team offense. I agree with Boren and Saine being 2nd. The only possible grip is Posey not being 2nd over DJK and the NW guy. Pryor wasn't getting 2nd team, even though I don't think the NW guy was worthy.

As for defense, I see nothing wrong in terms of OSU players. There were just simply more guys more deserving than Heyward and Gibson to be 1st team. I don't even know if Gibson should be 2nd team. Look at the stats guys, they don't lie. There were a couple games that Heyward and Gibson didn't even show up (Purdue, Iowa, etc)-- but you forgot about those right? Rolle could have possibly been 2nd team, but it was a close call. OSU had the best defense, but its because they had a lot of really good players. In a sense, they took away from each other. Those guys can have their awards, OSU has their own
Nov 24, 2009 10:33am
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devil1197

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Nov 24, 2009 3:43 PM
Hb31187 wrote: lol whine much?
Lose much?
Nov 24, 2009 10:43am
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vball10set

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Nov 24, 2009 3:45 PM
^^^LOL---owned ;)
Nov 24, 2009 10:45am
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fan_from_texas

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Nov 24, 2009 3:56 PM
charliehustle14 wrote:
Cleveland Buck wrote: I agree with Ferentz. Iowa is 10-2 and had several key injuries. I think they would still be unbeaten if Robinson and Stanzi didn't get hurt.
Stanzi or not, Iowa still should have handled NW. Especially with a 10-0 lead at the time.
And Ohio State should have handled Purdue.

There are some bad selections in aggregate, especially on the defensive side. I don't think the COY selection is particularly egregious, though; the selection generally is some combination of results + improvement + results over expectations. On that metric, Ferentz, Fitzgerald, and Tressel all have good arguments, and I don't think it would be unreasonable for any of the three to win.

Re locker room material: if being snubbed in the all-conference selections is necessary to motivate someone, that person has some serious issues. You shouldn't need that to be fired up to play in big time D1 football.
Nov 24, 2009 10:56am