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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Aug 15, 2010 7:13pm
ts1227;452179 wrote:Pretty sure the one who requested the post be removed and LJ are on different sides of the political spectrum too, I thought LJ only pushed his agenda through posters and posts he likes? :rolleyes:
This what he wrote:
People have friends from across the political spectrum. I think it would be nice if he had a friend/LJ wrote:mmmhmmm, exactly what I said earlier. That from personal experience, I said with he poster who requested the post be removed.
But if its the opposite and its based on personal animus to me, that sure can be shown also by his statements.
LJ wrote: it's personal from his end, as he requested that a stop be put to the shenanigans. My not reversing it no matter what you say, is personal.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Aug 15, 2010 7:14pm
hey I just quote you sir.LJ;452183 wrote:you go on thinking whatever the fuck you want to think. You're the only one who knows the truth. it's obvious. It doesn't matter what other's say, only you know what they mean. So go on, do whatever the fuck it is you do.
Early Cuyler
Posts: 1,097
Aug 15, 2010 7:14pm
I CAN SEE CLEARLY NOW THE RAIN IS GONE.
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georgemc80
Posts: 983
Aug 15, 2010 7:17pm
Well, if the Politics forum is like this thread where people resort to foul language and name callling...then I would call it a fairly worthless forum...
I would like to know why the SE Ohio poverty thread was not approved....It led to very good discussion on the network's site.
I would like to know why the SE Ohio poverty thread was not approved....It led to very good discussion on the network's site.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Aug 15, 2010 7:21pm
justincredible;452151 wrote:The easiest solution us to just get rid of political discussion all together. Personally, I'd prefer that.
I don't get this line of thinking. Have you read the pro sports forum? Or some of the threads in Serious Business? In the politics forum you do not have to read through guys telling themselves to suck each others dicks, go fuck themselves, etc. to try and keep up with a discussion topic.
Everyone has different interests. Having a variety of different subjects on the site should bring in more posters. If you don't like a particular forum don't click on it. Its that simple. There are several I have never visited.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Aug 15, 2010 7:23pm
georgemc80;452202 wrote: I would like to know why the SE Ohio poverty thread was not approved....It led to very good discussion on the network's site.
Maybe if you read this thread you would find the answer?
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Posts: 7,762
Aug 15, 2010 7:23pm
I know it did. When these folks ignored, I was in the discussion on the dateline site.
Dateline was proud it was the first time in years they beat 60 minutes. Produced major discussion on many sites.
Lead them to put on a follow up segment the next week on the show
Dateline was proud it was the first time in years they beat 60 minutes. Produced major discussion on many sites.
Lead them to put on a follow up segment the next week on the show
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Aug 15, 2010 7:23pm
majorspark;452210 wrote:I don't get this line of thinking. Have you read the pro sports forum? Or some of the threads in Serious Business? In the politics forum you do not have to read through guys telling themselves to suck each others dicks, go fuck themselves, etc. to try and keep up with a discussion topic.
Everyone has different interests. Having a variety of different subjects on the site should bring in more posters. If you don't like a particular forum don't click on it. Its that simple. There are several I have never visited.
I think he meant people complaining about the rules
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Aug 15, 2010 7:37pm
majorspark;452210 wrote:I don't get this line of thinking. Have you read the pro sports forum? Or some of the threads in Serious Business? In the politics forum you do not have to read through guys telling themselves to suck each others dicks, go fuck themselves, etc. to try and keep up with a discussion topic.
Everyone has different interests. Having a variety of different subjects on the site should bring in more posters. If you don't like a particular forum don't click on it. Its that simple. There are several I have never visited.
I'm in a no-win situation. The politics forum has a lot of rules so people complain that it is just like JJhuddle. I let a lot of crap go in other forums and people complain that there aren't enough rules. If I add more rules to other forums it will be called out for being just like JJhuddle. If I remove the rules from the politics forum then all discussion will turn to crap and people will complain.
If it weren't for the healthy six-figure revenue I am making on this site I'd just shut the thing down.
RelsonGracieBJJ
Posts: 528
Aug 15, 2010 7:39pm
<< Hands justin the 24k Gold tissues lol.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Aug 15, 2010 7:46pm
This site exists because of the First Amendment
People at Ohio Chatter make wide use of freedom of speech in what they write and show all protected by the First. BUT
the major reason that there is a 1st Amendment is to allow vigorous unrestricted political speech. At this site the place where speech is most restricted, most limited most controlled is in the political forum. That is both an irony and a wrong.
People at Ohio Chatter make wide use of freedom of speech in what they write and show all protected by the First. BUT
the major reason that there is a 1st Amendment is to allow vigorous unrestricted political speech. At this site the place where speech is most restricted, most limited most controlled is in the political forum. That is both an irony and a wrong.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Aug 15, 2010 7:48pm
isadore;452252 wrote:This site exists because of the First Amendment
People at Ohio Chatter make wide use of freedom of speech in what they write and show all protected by the First. BUT
the major reason that there is a 1st Amendment is to allow vigorous unrestricted political speech. At this site the place where speech is most restricted, most limited most controlled is in the political forum. That is both an irony and a wrong.
Privately owned internet forum, you have no "rights" regarding speech here.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Aug 15, 2010 7:48pm
The First Amendment means nothing on this site. I could restrict everyone as much as I wanted. I choose not to, but there are no "rights" on an internet forum.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 15, 2010 7:50pm
exactly, it is a privilege that you are able to post on this site, not a right
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Aug 15, 2010 7:51pm
Pick6;452259 wrote:exactly, it is a privilege that you are able to post on this site, not a right
I wouldn't go that far. Talk about a crappy privilege.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Aug 15, 2010 7:53pm
justincredible;452255 wrote:The First Amendment means nothing on this site. I could restrict everyone as much as I wanted. I choose not to, but there are no "rights" on an internet forum.
Well you just did it now, expect your letter from the ACLU next week. It will make that letter from JJ look like it was written by a 1st grader.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Aug 15, 2010 7:54pm
This will piss politics forum people off, but honestly most (though not all) of the politics posters do not or rarely leave that forum, whereas those in the other ones bounce around a little more (most serious business people find their way to all the Pro/College ones, and HS football/basketball). So, in terms of ever getting rid of politics forum I honestly don't think it will hurt the site because they essentially add the least to the site, and god knows any efforts to expand the sites popularity won't focus on it.
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Posts: 7,762
Aug 15, 2010 7:55pm
The reason this site exists at all is because of the First Amendment. AT ALL. So when set it up, yes you are the god of it. But without the First there is no set up. And Using that freedom to set it up all these different forums. the one you limit the most is political speech that is irony and very sad.justincredible;452255 wrote:The First Amendment means nothing on this site. I could restrict everyone as much as I wanted. I choose not to, but there are no "rights" on an internet forum.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 15, 2010 7:57pm
HE doesnt limit anything
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Aug 15, 2010 7:59pm
isadore;452268 wrote:The reason this site exists at all is because of the First Amendment. AT ALL. So when set it up, yes you are the god of it. But without the First there is no set up. And Using that freedom to set it up all these different forums. the one you limit the most is political speech that is irony and very sad.
Okay, so obviously you don't like it. Why do you continue to post on the site? The rules have been the same on that forum since the beginning.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Aug 15, 2010 8:00pm
Pick6;452269 wrote:HE doesnt limit anything
This is also true. I don't look at, visit, read, follow, etc, the politics forum. It doesn't interest me and the only reason it even exists is because LJ volunteered to run it when the site was created.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Aug 15, 2010 8:04pm
justincredible;452274 wrote:Okay, so obviously you don't like it. Why do you continue to post on the site? The rules have been the same on that forum since the beginning.
delusionally hoping for a change and I enjoy some of the posters. this site is about the interchange of opinion and information and the most restricted is political, that does not seem right.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
Aug 15, 2010 8:05pm
lolPick6;452269 wrote:HE doesnt limit anything
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Aug 15, 2010 8:06pm
isadore;452281 wrote:delusionally hoping for a change and I enjoy some of the posters. this site is about the interchange of opinion and information and the most restricted is political, that does not seem right.
It;s hard to exchange opinions when you run around misrepresenting them all the time.
Tiger2003
Posts: 15,421
Aug 15, 2010 8:07pm
LJ;452070 wrote:Or I can just tell justin that i don't want to do it anymore and there won't be a politics forum....
Ill take it over...I fought in the damn war they took my leg......I can take your job!!! I have lived in Politics all my life!!!