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sjmvsfscs08
Posts: 2,963
Aug 16, 2010 3:43am
bases_loaded;452015 wrote: The Browns only took a QB after they addressed important areas of need first, when its time to address the QB of the future a QB much better than Clausen will be there to take.
I doubt that. Clausen is going to tear it up in the NFL.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 16, 2010 8:56am
Sage;452071 wrote:The Browns will surprise the league this year. 7-9 at worst, wild card at best.
Just don't let us go up 2-0 and dump Baltimore in Baltimore week 3.
I like your optimism, but you're dellusional.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 16, 2010 9:05am
sjmvsfscs08;452783 wrote:I doubt that. Clausen is going to tear it up in the NFL.
You ND fans thought the same thing about Quinn too.
I'll hold back my reservations on Clausen and Mccoy until they complete their first seasons as starters.
To make ANY sort of opinion after 1 preseason game is laughable at best, and downright stupid and idiotic at worst.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Aug 16, 2010 9:28am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;452555 wrote:The point is they should have made it a point to get a QB when Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace are ur QB's. Delhomme can be serviceable, but won't be around much longer. They fucked up.. shoulda taken Clausen.
You're from Dover, don't talk to me about football. When I have a question about mobile homes, I'll shoot u a pm.
We have one mobile home park and we hide it between 77 and a river, whats your excuse for that run down town that revolves around 14-17 year old boys?
I would rather have TJ Ward,Monterio Hardesty, Colt McCoy, and Lauvao than Jimmy Clausen.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Aug 16, 2010 10:00am
bases_loaded;452851 wrote:We have one mobile home park and we hide it between 77 and a river, whats your excuse for that run down town that revolves around 14-17 year old boys?
I would rather have TJ Ward,Monterio Hardesty, Colt McCoy, and Lauvao than Jimmy Clausen.
Maybe one park but hundreds spread sporadically around the village. You don't want to compare Massillon and Dover, hilljack.
Take Clausen 1 instead of Joe Haden and you still have all your guys. Haden at 1 was retarded. He'll never do anything meaningful.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 16, 2010 10:09am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;452869 wrote:Haden at 1 was retarded. He'll never do anything meaningful.
As if your credibility was ever in doubt, I think this statement has fully confirmed you are indeed, as they say, mentally crippled.
To say that a 1st round pick will never amount to anything 1 preseason game is so moronically stupid I lost braincells reading it.
Oh and by the way, he played pretty solid.
Cleveland Buck
Posts: 5,126
Aug 16, 2010 10:09am
I said during last college football season that Clausen would be the best QB in this draft, and I still believe that. And I'm not a Notre Dame fan by any means. Still, they couldn't take Clausen at 7 when he eventually fell as far he did. They could have taken him instead of Ward, or traded up to get him with some lower picks and still taken Ward. I would rather have Clausen than McCoy.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Aug 16, 2010 10:12am
Joe Haden was the biggest reach of the draft. bar fucking none.lhslep134;452873 wrote:As if your credibility was ever in doubt, I think this statement has fully confirmed you are indeed, as they say, mentally crippled.
To say that a 1st round pick will never amount to anything 1 preseason game is so moronically stupid I lost braincells reading it.
Oh and by the way, he played pretty solid.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 16, 2010 10:12am
Cleveland Buck;452874 wrote:I would rather have Clausen than McCoy.
Oh really? You'd rather have a 1st round pick than a 3rd round pick?
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Aug 16, 2010 10:14am
SportsAndLady;452878 wrote:Oh really? You'd rather have a 1st round pick than a 3rd round pick?
Clausen was 2nd round. Just Carolina's first pick.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Aug 16, 2010 10:26am
Haden's positioning was very good for a rookie starting against the best offense in the NFL, I think he turns out to be a great pick addressing a NEED for the team. The Browns don't have either Ward(if they take Clausen w/ 2nd) or Hardesty and Luavou(they would of had to trade these picks to move up to take Clausen) if they take the Pro Bowl QB Clausen.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 16, 2010 10:29am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;452876 wrote:Joe Haden was the biggest reach of the draft. bar fucking none.
Like I said, you're obviously mentally crippled.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 16, 2010 10:33am
bases_loaded;452887 wrote:Haden's positioning was very good for a rookie starting against the best offense in the NFL, I think he turns out to be a great pick addressing a NEED for the team. The Browns don't have either Ward(if they take Clausen w/ 2nd) or Hardesty and Luavou(they would of had to trade these picks to move up to take Clausen) if they take the Pro Bowl QB Clausen.
+1
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Aug 16, 2010 10:34am
lhslep134;452889 wrote:Like I said, you're obviously mentally crippled.
lol ok kid
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Aug 16, 2010 10:37am
FIXEDZWICK 4 PREZ;452893 wrote:You're right lhslep134
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Aug 16, 2010 10:39am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;452876 wrote:Joe Haden was the biggest reach of the draft. bar fucking none.
Tim Tebow says otherwise
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Aug 16, 2010 10:44am
It's too early to say anyone was a reach.
Anyone who was drafted in the 1st round that becomes a solid starter was a good pick. This generally doesn't happen for 2-4 years.
Let's evaluate then who was a reach and who wasn't, who was a bust (so far) and who wasn't.
Hell, it takes some guys 5 years to find their niche as a productive NFL player (Cedric Benson).
Anyone who was drafted in the 1st round that becomes a solid starter was a good pick. This generally doesn't happen for 2-4 years.
Let's evaluate then who was a reach and who wasn't, who was a bust (so far) and who wasn't.
Hell, it takes some guys 5 years to find their niche as a productive NFL player (Cedric Benson).
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Aug 16, 2010 10:47am
He started b/c Wright is nursing his hammy still.lhslep134;452905 wrote:It's too early to say anyone was a reach.
Anyone who was drafted in the 1st round that becomes a solid starter was a good pick. This generally doesn't happen for 2-4 years.
Let's evaluate then who was a reach and who wasn't, who was a bust (so far) and who wasn't.
Hell, it takes some guys 5 years to find their niche as a productive NFL player (Cedric Benson).
He's only seeing nickle packages when wright is back.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Aug 16, 2010 10:53am
The whole draft is a gamble and I would rather have 3 guys to gamble with than 1. I think Ward had a great 1st preseason game one and thats a good thing because the Browns don't have any safeties worth a shit, so having Ward is more important than a QB that 32 teams passed on and 14 or whatever passed on twice.
Wooball
Posts: 1,325
Aug 16, 2010 11:02am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;452869 wrote:Maybe one park but hundreds spread sporadically around the village. You don't want to compare Massillon and Dover, hilljack.
I know. I am so excited everytime I take rt. 21 north to that gem of a city of yours, and get off Lillian Gish Blvd. The bright lights and energy that remain in that run down rust belt heaven is intoxicating. Please don't compare Massillon and Dover, poseur.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Aug 16, 2010 11:40am
Wooball;452930 wrote:I know. I am so excited everytime I take rt. 21 north to that gem of a city of yours, and get off Lillian Gish Blvd. The bright lights and energy that remain in that run down rust belt heaven is intoxicating. Please don't compare Massillon and Dover, poseur.
Is that why you backed outta the contract the 2nd year, b/c u didn't like the city... or is it b/c your vagina did the talking for you. Let Dover do something before you talk.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 16, 2010 11:52am
ZWICK 4 PREZ;452907 wrote:He started b/c Wright is nursing his hammy still.
He's only seeing nickle packages when wright is back.
What is your point? Nothing wrong with a rookie playing under a vet and a very good corner.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Aug 16, 2010 11:57am
My point is he isn't a starter like was suggested obvi.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Aug 16, 2010 12:00pm
I'm no Cleveland fan and I think Haden will be solid. He was 1st round worthy, but a reach at #7. I thought he was 12-15 material.
Wooball
Posts: 1,325
Aug 16, 2010 12:04pm
ZWICK 4 PREZ;452976 wrote:Is that why you backed outta the contract the 2nd year, b/c u didn't like the city... or is it b/c your vagina did the talking for you. Let Dover do something before you talk.
Great response. I guess I will have to wait until our HS football team can win a state title (or mythical state titles) so I can talk smack, quote rap lyrics and pimp my golf handicap on these forums.
I don't work for the school or the athletic department, but I would guess Dover got out of the contract because they were in over their heads in that match-up, got their asses handed to them, and neither team was going to benefit from a similar result the next year. Unless of course the mighty Tigers need to play schools like Dover to display their supremacy over NE Ohio HS football.