queencitybuckeye;453205 wrote:I don't disagree with your premise, but would doubt the one to one ratio.

This. I don't have a problem if someone is really being screwed over going through the claims process and feels like they need a lawyer to benefit their case. It is the people who got backed into sitting in a parked car in a parking lot and the first call I made as a claim rep the person was already represented for their "injury". Like anything else in this world, there are people who really need to use a service and others who abuse it for their personal benefit. I think in this case the people who abuse it are more prevalent than those who really need to use the service.

Scarlet_Buckeye;453047 wrote:SEJ - likewise, I have no idea where you live either but I have to regularly get accident reports online and the vast majority of police departments are all online now. Much like almost every Clerk of Courts for any County is online. All docket sheets for all civil and criminal cases are all public record and, thus, online.

I've never seen an accident report included in the docket on the Clerk's website around here (Dayton area), and as LJ said not all filed paperwork for a case is available online. We recently had to review many of our cases after a court decision, and had to be granted special online access and/or go in person to get the journal entries.

I never said a police accident report was included on a "Court's docket sheet". Police accident reports and Court pleadings being filed are two separate things to be gotten by two separate entitites. I said that the vast majority of police accident reports are indeed online. They can be obtained via the various police locale's website (as well as the Ohio State Highway Patrol's website). I do reitate, however, that any and all court pleadings filed by either a Plaintiff and/or a Defendant as well as a Judge's Order are and must be included in a Court's docket and will be online if that Court's docketing system is online (which, again, the vast majority of Court's dockets are now online - more are online that not).

I misread your statement initially, but yes, the court docket and accident report are from two separate entities.

As far as I am aware, Dayton, Cincinnati, and Columbus PD do not have accident reports online. I don't know of any smaller jurisdictions around Dayton that do, either. For OSP, I thought you can order them online, but you can't actually obtain the report directly from the website.

As far as the dockets go, have you had to obtain any information on victim sensitive felony cases? Specifically, here the paperwork for sex offenses isn't online. You can still look at the docket, but have to actually go to the Clerk to get the paperwork. As I said before as well, the journal entries (where the sentence is handed down) are scanned, but cannot be accessed online by the general public. You can see them on the docket, but can't get the actual paperwork. I haven't accessed the public site for Montgomery Co in some time, so I don't even know if any of the docket items are available online, even if scanned.

Maybe I'm just not used to using it, but I did a quick look at the Cuyahoga Co. Clerk website. Just as with the counties around here, I can see each docket event but cannot see the actual paperwork filed.


FWIW, I would love to have a way to get police reports online. Unfortunately, very little of what I need to get is traffic reports so I don't know that it will every really be available as needed.

Also a fun fact...last time I had to contact Jefferson Co. they not only didn't have anything online, but they also didn't have a fax machine or a way to email the documents and had to mail them to me.

sej;454005 wrote:I misread your statement initially, but yes, the court docket and accident report are from two separate entities.

As far as I am aware, Dayton, Cincinnati, and Columbus PD do not have accident reports online. I don't know of any smaller jurisdictions around Dayton that do, either. For OSP, I thought you can order them online, but you can't actually obtain the report directly from the website.

As far as the dockets go, have you had to obtain any information on victim sensitive felony cases? Specifically, here the paperwork for sex offenses isn't online. You can still look at the docket, but have to actually go to the Clerk to get the paperwork. As I said before as well, the journal entries (where the sentence is handed down) are scanned, but cannot be accessed online by the general public. You can see them on the docket, but can't get the actual paperwork. I haven't accessed the public site for Montgomery Co in some time, so I don't even know if any of the docket items are available online, even if scanned.

Maybe I'm just not used to using it, but I did a quick look at the Cuyahoga Co. Clerk website. Just as with the counties around here, I can see each docket event but cannot see the actual paperwork filed.


FWIW, I would love to have a way to get police reports online. Unfortunately, very little of what I need to get is traffic reports so I don't know that it will every really be available as needed.

Also a fun fact...last time I had to contact Jefferson Co. they not only didn't have anything online, but they also didn't have a fax machine or a way to email the documents and had to mail them to me.

Last time I needed one cpd has accident reports online. And with Franklin county and some surrounding counties you have to go to the actual clerk to get any documents on many cases. Lawyers can see more, but in many cases still not everything.

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