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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:27 PM Jul 31, 2010 12:27 PM

Cleveland will get prospects in the deal

St Louis is also working on a deal that would send Ryan Ludwick to San Diego.

Jul 31, 2010 12:27pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:32 PM Jul 31, 2010 12:32 PM

^^^^

what are they hoping to get for Ludwick?

Its a decent deal for St. Louis, not exactly the top flight starter they wanted, but could be a good deal

Jul 31, 2010 12:32pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:32 PM Jul 31, 2010 12:32 PM

Good.

Jul 31, 2010 12:32pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:33 PM Jul 31, 2010 12:33 PM

I figured that Westy was gone.....hate to see him go, but no player deserves to play in this joke of an organization.

Jul 31, 2010 12:33pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:36 PM Jul 31, 2010 12:36 PM

Looks like prospects for Ludwick

Jul 31, 2010 12:36pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:36 PM Jul 31, 2010 12:36 PM

He's scheduled to take the mound in 30 minutes, Indians haven't announced a replacement yet.

3 Twitter accounts are saying Tomlin on 3 days rest (the ones that scroll through when you google stuff).

Jul 31, 2010 12:36pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:38 PM Jul 31, 2010 12:38 PM

Josh Tomlin is getting the start.

Jul 31, 2010 12:38pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:38 PM Jul 31, 2010 12:38 PM

Tomlin will be starting today

Jul 31, 2010 12:38pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:40 PM Jul 31, 2010 12:40 PM

The 3 team deal is complete as Ludwick is on his way to San Diego for a prospect.

Jul 31, 2010 12:40pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 12:42 PM Jul 31, 2010 12:42 PM

Ludwick got traded? Wow! What the heck are the Cardinals doing?

Jul 31, 2010 12:42pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:05 PM Jul 31, 2010 1:05 PM

Dolan must be making $$$$ hand over fist...he's dumped evrybody but Hafner.

Jul 31, 2010 1:05pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:14 PM Jul 31, 2010 1:14 PM

Tribe gets RHP Corey Kluber from the Padres in the trade. He's 6'4" with a 5-5 record and 3.45 ERA in AA San Antonio this season. Also 136 K's and only 40 BB in 122 IP.

Jul 31, 2010 1:14pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 1:55 PM Jul 31, 2010 1:55 PM

Sucks to see Westbrook go. But he's going to a good team and it's not the Yankees or Red Sox.

Jul 31, 2010 1:55pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 2:06 PM Jul 31, 2010 2:06 PM

HitsRus;437676 wrote:Dolan must be making $$$$ hand over fist...he's dumped evrybody but Hafner.

They haven't dumped Wood, have they?

Jul 31, 2010 2:06pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 2:25 PM Jul 31, 2010 2:25 PM

THey couldn't sign Ludwick at the end of the year when he's a free agent and the emergence of Jon Jay (hit over .400 in July in a fulltime role) made it a crowded outfield for STL. With Holiday in LF, Rasmus in CF, and Jon Jay in RF - they have Winn as a back-up and Felipe Lopez also when Freese gets back next week. Great move by the Cards. If Penny makes it back off the DL, then that gives STL 2 aces and 2 quailty guys, tough to beat in a 5 game series - they had to keep up with Philly after they got Oswalt.

Jul 31, 2010 2:25pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 2:33 PM Jul 31, 2010 2:33 PM

HitsRus;437676 wrote:Dolan must be making $$$$ hand over fist...he's dumped evrybody but Hafner.

It's impossible to trade Hafner.

Jul 31, 2010 2:33pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 3:27 PM Jul 31, 2010 3:27 PM

pinstriper;437764 wrote:that gives STL 2 aces and 2 quailty guys, tough to beat in a 5 game series - they had to keep up with Philly after they got Oswalt.

With the way Jaime Garcia is pitching this year (9-4, 2.33 ERA), they have 3 aces.

Jul 31, 2010 3:27pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 3:36 PM Jul 31, 2010 3:36 PM

royal_k;437736 wrote:Sucks to see Westbrook go. But he's going to a good team and it's not the Yankees or Red Sox.

This post sums up how I feel about it, too.

Jul 31, 2010 3:36pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 3:37 PM Jul 31, 2010 3:37 PM

pinstriper;437764 wrote:THey couldn't sign Ludwick at the end of the year when he's a free agent and the emergence of Jon Jay (hit over .400 in July in a fulltime role) made it a crowded outfield for STL. With Holiday in LF, Rasmus in CF, and Jon Jay in RF - they have Winn as a back-up and Felipe Lopez also when Freese gets back next week. Great move by the Cards. If Penny makes it back off the DL, then that gives STL 2 aces and 2 quailty guys, tough to beat in a 5 game series - they had to keep up with Philly after they got Oswalt.

If I'm contending for the playoffs/a championship, I want Ryan Ludwick going forward, not Jon Jay. I wouldn't be worried about building for the future, the future is now if I'm in contention. I like the pickup of Westbrook for the Cards, they needed pitching, but not at the price of Ludwick. I don't trust Jon Jay. Rookies that hit over .400 for a month are bound to come down to Earth in a big way.

Jul 31, 2010 3:37pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:26 PM Jul 31, 2010 5:26 PM

Wow Crapiro is really living up to his name.

Jul 31, 2010 5:26pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:44 PM Jul 31, 2010 5:44 PM

trep14;437816 wrote:If I'm contending for the playoffs/a championship, I want Ryan Ludwick going forward, not Jon Jay. I wouldn't be worried about building for the future, the future is now if I'm in contention. I like the pickup of Westbrook for the Cards, they needed pitching, but not at the price of Ludwick. I don't trust Jon Jay. Rookies that hit over .400 for a month are bound to come down to Earth in a big way.

I don't trust Jon Jay either. If you trade one of your bigger bats in your lineup, you MUST get more than freaking Jake Westbrook.

Jul 31, 2010 5:44pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:55 PM Jul 31, 2010 5:55 PM

newarkcatholicfan;437895 wrote:Wow Crapiro is really leaving up to his name.

And I so wish he would leave,too!

Jul 31, 2010 5:55pm

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Sat, Jul 31, 2010 7:03 PM Jul 31, 2010 7:03 PM

hoops23;437771 wrote:It's impossible to trade Hafner.

Agreed. That is one inflated contract for his production.

Jul 31, 2010 7:03pm