Sam Bradford signs largest guaranteed deal in NFL history!

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Jul 30, 2010 11:10 PM
The Rams reached agreement on Friday night with quarterback Sam Bradford on a six-year, $78 million contract that reportedly has $50 million guaranteed, according to multiple reports from Jay Glazer at FOX, and the Schefter/Mortensen bus buddies at ESPN. The deal has a max value of $86 million.
$50 million guaranteed for a guy who has never even thrown an NFL pass. Stafford got $41.7 million guaranteed last year, so this represents an almost 20% raise over last year.

Peyton Manning and Tom Brady need new deals. If a guy who has never thrown an NFL pass gets $50 million, what are those 2 worth in guaranteed dollars?

If it wasn't clear before a rookie cap was needed, I think it has to be now. With 10-20% raises a regular thing for the past decade or so, it won't be long before top picks are getting $70-80 Million guaranteed if this isn't stopped.

The players union should be pushing for a rookie cap with a guarantee that owners spend the money being saved on rookies on veterans who have earned it.

Apparently they have been willing to go with a rookie wage scale that would save the owners about $200 million. The problem now is over the fact the players want a guarantee those savings aren't pocketed and instead spent on the retiree pension and the rest to active players.

The owners naturally love a rookie scale, but are luke warm about the part where they would still be spending the money, just on different things.

One way or another, the bulk of the current rookie money should be going to guys who have proven they can play. Giving out $50 million to a rookie qb with a 50/50 shot of being a bust is insanity.
Jul 30, 2010 11:10pm
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Jul 30, 2010 11:11 PM
jesus christ. Kid hasn't even thrown a pass yet.

if this doesn't scream the need for a payscale, I don't know what does
Jul 30, 2010 11:11pm
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Jul 30, 2010 11:12 PM
Good for him but that is stupid.
Jul 30, 2010 11:12pm
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Jul 30, 2010 11:13 PM
Beyond stupid on this one.
Jul 30, 2010 11:13pm
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Jul 30, 2010 11:14 PM
Absurd. Don't the owners have the power to just tell the rookies to piss off instead of giving them these dumbass contracts?
Jul 30, 2010 11:14pm
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Jul 30, 2010 11:15 PM
Good for him. He is probably the last rookie to ever walk off with that kind of pay-day. The payscale is coming and hopefully extended holdouts are going away,

The best part of all this is that agents and slimy characters will be largely irrelevant post pay-scale
Jul 30, 2010 11:15pm
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Jul 30, 2010 11:15 PM
^^^^

not if they dont wanna piss off the player's assocation
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Jul 30, 2010 11:15 PM
He could get hurt tomorrow and would be set for the rest of his life.

This is the most absurd contract I have ever seen.
Jul 30, 2010 11:15pm
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Jul 30, 2010 11:22 PM
darbypitcher22;437328 wrote:^^^^

not if they dont wanna piss off the player's assocation

Uhh the player's association is for it. haha. You know, it is made up of current players. Not snot nosed rookies. Veterans would be more than happy to see Bradford money coming their way
Jul 30, 2010 11:22pm
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Jul 30, 2010 11:25 PM
I can't see all of the lawyers ands tuff though letting the owners create that sort of pull though over the players assoc.
Jul 30, 2010 11:25pm
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Jul 30, 2010 11:28 PM
Uhh the player's association is for it.
It's only for it if the money not being spent on the rookie pool is then spent on veterans.

If anything, the union loves the Bradford contract right now, because signing Brady, Manning and Brees to new deals just got significantly more expensive as this at least sets a floor for what they will be paid on their new deals.
Jul 30, 2010 11:28pm
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Jul 30, 2010 11:31 PM
I am almost afraid of what Indy is going to have to pay Manning.
Jul 30, 2010 11:31pm
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Jul 30, 2010 11:33 PM
My main man Mardy Gilyard is going to make him look pretty good at times this season.

That being said $50M guaranteed is obscene for not only a guy who has never thrown an NFL pass, but a guy coming off a bum shoulder to boot.
Jul 30, 2010 11:33pm
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Jul 30, 2010 11:33 PM
IggyPride00;437353 wrote:It's only for it if the money not being spent on the rookie pool is then spent on veterans.

That will be dealt with in collective bargaining. Fact is, veterans will be all in favor of this. People have felt for a long time that the wrong people were getting paid.
Jul 30, 2010 11:33pm
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Jul 30, 2010 11:35 PM
darbypitcher22;437349 wrote:I can't see all of the lawyers ands tuff though letting the owners create that sort of pull though over the players assoc.

What lawyers? Not sure what lawyers you are referring to. Player's union= for it, owners= for it, management= for it, coaches=for it. It is getting done. The NFL can do what it wishes. Ask Maurice Clarett
Jul 30, 2010 11:35pm
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Jul 30, 2010 11:54 PM
It looks like him going back to college was a smart move.
Jul 30, 2010 11:54pm
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Jul 31, 2010 12:04 AM
The NFL, like the NBA will holdout as long as they have to in order to get the power back into the owners hands. I could honestly see the NBA losing an entire season because of how bad it's gotten.

Players like to get paid, and as long as there is a holdout, nobody is getting paid.

The owners will get their ways, as they rightfully should.
Jul 31, 2010 12:04am
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Jul 31, 2010 12:31 AM
Sam Bradford??.......meet Akili Smith.
Jul 31, 2010 12:31am
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Jul 31, 2010 2:30 AM
The NFL should do what the NHL does with ELC contracts. An ELC is an entry level contract and the max a rookie can make is around 3.75mil a year. I wouldn't mind seeing the NFL do that.
Jul 31, 2010 2:30am
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Jul 31, 2010 8:46 AM
I've ALWAYS thought a rookie contract (in basically any sport) should be capped and have incentives. This is just ridiculous.
Jul 31, 2010 8:46am
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Jul 31, 2010 10:32 AM
TCS, that is probably what's going to happen. My guess is it will be tied to the round they're drafted into, as well.

It will happen. It just depends on if it is an easy transition or difficult (i.e., lockout).

Sykotyk
Jul 31, 2010 10:32am
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Jul 31, 2010 10:52 AM
My only question jordo212000, is why did you separate agents and slimy characters into two separate groups?
Jul 31, 2010 10:52am
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Jul 31, 2010 11:41 AM
Swamp Fox;437569 wrote:My only question jordo212000, is why did you separate agents and slimy characters into two separate groups?

Haha nice catch, I guess the slimy characters I was referring to are the guys who aren't agents but pounce on stupid rookies and pretend to be one. (Master P. negotiating Ricky Williams contract comes to mind haha)
Jul 31, 2010 11:41am
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Jul 31, 2010 1:29 PM
The threat of a holdout is scarier for the players than the owners. The NFLPA needs to get something done.
Jul 31, 2010 1:29pm
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Jul 31, 2010 1:55 PM
Sykotyk;437559 wrote:TCS, that is probably what's going to happen. My guess is it will be tied to the round they're drafted into, as well.

It will happen. It just depends on if it is an easy transition or difficult (i.e., lockout).

Sykotyk

Agreed on the round selection. Also, the max years for an ELC is 3 years, and I woulnd't mind seeing that in use.
Jul 31, 2010 1:55pm