CenterBHSFan wrote:

Elliot Stabler wrote: Make up your mind.
Way to work into a bash againist Michelle Obama
There is no way you can call yourself a Democrat and have voted for Bush or McCain

What are you meaning?

I can be a democrat all my life but still vote away from party lines from time to time. What does that have to do with anything?
I never bashed Michelle Obama and she wasn't even anybody I brought up.
I posted what was on my mind, according to the topics that you created.
I can have differing opinions on the same person. It's called thoughts and reasoning.

Why are you still a Democrat if you hold so many conservative views? I would think that you'd be more comfy as a Republican...or at the very least, an Independent.

SQ_Crazies wrote:

Elliot Stabler wrote: troop decision ever
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq

This has cost the United states 100's of millions of dollars and thousands of lives.

How can anyone agree with this

Hundreds of millions to keep us safe>hundreds of billions to make sure a bum can get a flu shot.

"Hundreds of millions to keep us safe"? Try 1 trillion dollars per year...which represents approximately 40% of this year's fiscal year's tax receipts.

Check your numbers before you post...add 4 zeros to your figures.

One source...there are many others....

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5088

Footwedge wrote:Why are you still a Democrat if you hold so many conservative views? I would think that you'd be more comfy as a Republican...or at the very least, an Independent.

Good question. I guess for starters since I was born and raised a democrat, that is my comfort zone. I've never felt the pull for the republican party, actually I did a few times - but I think that was mainly out of defiance.
I've often wondered if I even belong in either party. And, according to the test at the top of the page, I'm right smack dab in the middle of everything (literally)!
I still feel like a democrat and am waiting for the party to give me somebody who I think has common sense, strength and the willpower to actually piss people off to get things done. That is, things that are good for EVERYBODY, and not just a certain group. That's the kind of democrat that I'm hoping will come around again.

CenterBHSFan wrote:

Footwedge wrote:Why are you still a Democrat if you hold so many conservative views? I would think that you'd be more comfy as a Republican...or at the very least, an Independent.

Good question. I guess for starters since I was born and raised a democrat, that is my comfort zone. I've never felt the pull for the republican party, actually I did a few times - but I think that was mainly out of defiance.
I've often wondered if I even belong in either party. And, according to the test at the top of the page, I'm right smack dab in the middle of everything (literally)!
I still feel like a democrat and am waiting for the party to give me somebody who I think has common sense, strength and the willpower to actually piss people off to get things done. That is, things that are good for EVERYBODY, and not just a certain group. That's the kind of democrat that I'm hoping will come around again.

Well. I was born and raised a Republican. I shared the ideology of WriterBuckeye and Mr. 300 across the board.

The only Democrat I ever voted for was Kerry for president...and that goes back to Gerry Ford.

I voted for Kerry because of the Iraq War....and the overall foreign policy of democracy expansionism through military force. The hypocracy of the GOP spewing 'smaller government" definitely took me over the edge.

Did you vote for Clinton? Inspite of what Rush Limbaugh preached during his 8 year reign, Clinton was very moderate with a lean towards conservatism when running Arkansas....and got a lot of things done.

I did vote for Clinton, both times. The latter part of his 2nd term I wasn't too happy with him. But then again, that was the start of my transition from being really ultra-liberal to my much more conservative beliefs.
I have never followed the likes of Rush Limbaugh, although I remember mornings while getting ready to go to school (college) of seeing him on the tv selling neckties (neckties or hats or something).

HAAAAAA!!! Clinton got a lot of things done...hahaha...

Elliot Stabler wrote:
slide,we were in Vietnam to fight communisum. We wern't there because of a lie

Which was about as ridiculous as teh Iraq War.

ccrunner609 wrote: The war has been over for along time.....we are there building a nation now.

That is not the job of the United States and the military is not trained to nation build. It is a policing job, they are not nation building, they are baby sitting.

Elliot Stabler wrote:
Um.....

I'm thinking you left out a HUGE player in the Vietnam war...

Richard Nixon-Republican

What was FDR's war?? Oh yea..WWII.which we got into because the Japs attacked on of our military bases.

See,we had a reason to enter WWI,Korea,and Vietnam.

Iraq,no such reason

First off, Richard Nixon was a HUGE player because he got the US out of Vietnam.

Also, Vietnam and Korea's reasons were about as valid as the reason to attack Iraq. None of those wars should have had US participation.

Elliot Stabler wrote:
To hell with them.

We should have gotten the little basterd then...then we wouldn;t have had to go into Iraq to finish the job Bush 41 was to scared to do

Are you kidding? Saddam was the best indirect ally the US could have had in th mid east. Iran wouldn't be doing everything they are doing now if Saddam was still in power. He kept them and many other 'rogue' leaders in the mid east in check. Yes, he was a brutal dictator, but there was less violence in Iraq when he was in power than there is now. Weekly suicide bombings kill more than Saddam did.

Was Saddam a bad guy, yes. Was he a threat to the United States? No. We have created a bigger mess now than if we had stayed out of Iraq and focused in Afghanistan (where we should have been all along).

Elliot Stabler wrote: ^^^



slide,we were in Vietnam to fight communisum. We wern't there because of a lie

Before you claim something as fact Elliot you really should probably know , well at least something of what you are talking about. It helps.

30-year Anniversary: Tonkin Gulf Lie Launched Vietnam War

But it might also surprise you to find that on the Iraq war we agree. It was a huge mistake and I think it was just George Jr doing what Daddy wish he had done, and Rumsfeld ranks right up there with one of the most evil pieces a crap I have ever seen. As a matter a fact I thought George Bush jr. was a horrible president. I thought he might go down as the worst. Then we elected Barak. And no I did not think McCain was any prize either.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2261

When is ES going to be backing up all that he claims?

CenterBHSFan wrote: When is ES going to be backing up all that he claims?

He won't be

CenterBHSFan wrote: When is ES going to be backing up all that he claims?

You can't ask someone to do the impossible.