Ty Webb;837585 wrote:CNN reports a MAJOR debt limit deal is looming and could be finalized in the next 24-36 hours
BGFalcons82;837609 wrote:I thought we were a democracy??? How dare you inject the "R" word into the equation.
We are a constitutional republic.jmog;837809 wrote:Actually we are a representative democracy which by definition is a replublic.
The pledge to the flag calls us a republic.
QuakerOats;837675 wrote:Try again --- liberals have to be able to steal more of your money, or no deal. What a bunch of #$@^*suckers.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-21/grand-bargain-returns-to-u-s-debt-talks-as-negotiators-open-paths-to-deal.html
jmog;837809 wrote:Actually we are a representative democracy which by definition is a replublic.
The pledge to the flag calls us a republic.
You may be right but regardless of who the final Repub candidate is the race will be a lot tighter than the Obama camp will want to admit.derek bomar;837697 wrote:You can take this to the bank. Obama will win the election. There isn't a viable republican option. Romney did Obamacare before Obamacare wasn't cool...so he's out. Bachman is a loon. Hermain Cain is insane. Pawlenty is boring.
I will bet anyone $100. And I'll pay if i am wrong...but I won't be.
The above confidence I have in him winning doesn't translate into me thinking he should be elected...I just think he will be.
believer;837887 wrote:You may be right but regardless of who the final Repub candidate is the race will be a lot tighter than the Obama camp will want to admit.
By the way, I recall similar observations from people, especially the media, about Carter a year before Reagan kicked his inept ass to the curb by landslide. Still plenty of time.
He has the power of incumbency and a shitload of money. That works to his advantage way more than your perceived shortcomings of the current pub field.derek bomar;837697 wrote:You can take this to the bank. Obama will win the election. There isn't a viable republican option. Romney did Obamacare before Obamacare wasn't cool...so he's out. Bachman is a loon. Hermain Cain is insane. Pawlenty is boring.
I will bet anyone $100. And I'll pay if i am wrong...but I won't be.
The above confidence I have in him winning doesn't translate into me thinking he should be elected...I just think he will be.
I agree. If the economy is still in the tank a year from now, it'll be the Repubs using the "It's the economy, stupid" mantra.gut;837983 wrote:It starts at the top and it's a lot easier to change 1 person in the POTUS than toss all the dead wood in Congress.
derek bomar;837697 wrote:You can take this to the bank. Obama will win the election. There isn't a viable republican option. Romney did Obamacare before Obamacare wasn't cool...so he's out. Bachman is a loon. Hermain Cain is insane. Pawlenty is boring.
I will bet anyone $100. And I'll pay if i am wrong...but I won't be.
The above confidence I have in him winning doesn't translate into me thinking he should be elected...I just think he will be.
BGFalcons82;838125 wrote:Come on now, Barry has a record he's going to run on and we'd like to know why you think he deserves 4 more years to completely ruin everything.
lol Don't forget that the media will also want to know if she's a spitter or a swallower.BGFalcons82;838125 wrote:Bachmann will never survive the 24/7 news cycle about what she ate for breakfast and if she used her right hand, what color her stool is, and why does she have so much lipstick in her trash can.
Agreed....precisely why I keep saying, "There's still plenty of time."BGFalcons82;838125 wrote:It's going to be Rick Perry or Chris Christie facing off against the annointed one. Rubio will be VP...or maybe Pawlenty, Bachmann, or possible even the evil Palin (OOOoooooohhhh)
In all fairness to DB, he did say, "The above confidence I have in him winning doesn't translate into me thinking he should be elected...I just think he will be."BGFalcons82;838125 wrote:You say he'll win because the R's are unqualified in your opinion. Using that reasoning, shouldn't McCain have easily won in 2008 as he far surpassed Barry in experience and Presidential qualifications? People voted for the most ill-vetted, inexperienced, unqualified teleprompter-reader and yet you believe that is still superior to the R's current candidates. Can you offer any reasons, other than the other side sucks, to actually pull the lever for this guy? Is it his economic policy? His deficit fighting stances? His energy policy? His dimwitted choice for VP, "Butthead Biden"? Come on now, Barry has a record he's going to run on and we'd like to know why you think he deserves 4 more years to completely ruin everything.
BGFalcons82;838125 wrote:Romney is the last best alternative.
Cain may sound insane to anyone whom isn't a career politician, but we've elected far less qualified candidates...like the one we have now. Probably not a good choice due to his lack of foreign policy knowledge, but only that.
Pawlenty is the anti-Obama in terms of charisma. That would make him a bad POTUS, eh? Hell, he's got more of it than Gerry Ford and the Peanut Farmer had, though. So be it.
Bachmann will never survive the 24/7 news cycle about what she ate for breakfast and if she used her right hand, what color her stool is, and why does she have so much lipstick in her trash can.
It's going to be Rick Perry or Chris Christie facing off against the annointed one. Rubio will be VP...or maybe Pawlenty, Bachmann, or possible even the evil Palin (OOOoooooohhhh)
And defeating him just as badly as Ronnie whooped Mr. Peanut.
You say he'll win because the R's are unqualified in your opinion. Using that reasoning, shouldn't McCain have easily won in 2008 as he far surpassed Barry in experience and Presidential qualifications? People voted for the most ill-vetted, inexperienced, unqualified teleprompter-reader and yet you believe that is still superior to the R's current candidates. Can you offer any reasons, other than the other side sucks, to actually pull the lever for this guy? Is it his economic policy? His deficit fighting stances? His energy policy? His dimwitted choice for VP, "Butthead Biden"? Come on now, Barry has a record he's going to run on and we'd like to know why you think he deserves 4 more years to completely ruin everything.
BGFalcons82;838125 wrote:Romney is the last best alternative.
Cain may sound insane to anyone whom isn't a career politician, but we've elected far less qualified candidates...like the one we have now. Probably not a good choice due to his lack of foreign policy knowledge, but only that.
Pawlenty is the anti-Obama in terms of charisma. That would make him a bad POTUS, eh? Hell, he's got more of it than Gerry Ford and the Peanut Farmer had, though. So be it.
Bachmann will never survive the 24/7 news cycle about what she ate for breakfast and if she used her right hand, what color her stool is, and why does she have so much lipstick in her trash can.
It's going to be Rick Perry or Chris Christie facing off against the annointed one. Rubio will be VP...or maybe Pawlenty, Bachmann, or possible even the evil Palin (OOOoooooohhhh)
And defeating him just as badly as Ronnie whooped Mr. Peanut.
You say he'll win because the R's are unqualified in your opinion. Using that reasoning, shouldn't McCain have easily won in 2008 as he far surpassed Barry in experience and Presidential qualifications? People voted for the most ill-vetted, inexperienced, unqualified teleprompter-reader and yet you believe that is still superior to the R's current candidates. Can you offer any reasons, other than the other side sucks, to actually pull the lever for this guy? Is it his economic policy? His deficit fighting stances? His energy policy? His dimwitted choice for VP, "Butthead Biden"? Come on now, Barry has a record he's going to run on and we'd like to know why you think he deserves 4 more years to completely ruin everything.
If you're referring to this briefing, http://www.politico.com/politico44/ then he's not offering jack shit. A trillion over 10 years? Gimme a farking break.derek bomar;838174 wrote:if anyone is watching what Obama is saying right now, how can you not honestly agree with him? My fiance, who works in Republican State government just said "he's going to be ****ing championed...this was his best speech ever. It was simple, and clear to understand."
you may not like him, but Jesus he literally is offering to Republicans what they want, and they still won't budge. This is getting ****ing retarded.
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-press-statement-2200-gmt-220257502.html"I cannot believe that Congress would end up being that irresponsible that they would not send a package that avoids a self-inflicted wound to the economy at a time when things are so difficult," he declared.
BGFalcons82;838125 wrote:Romney is the last best alternative.
Cain may sound insane to anyone whom isn't a career politician, but we've elected far less qualified candidates...like the one we have now. Probably not a good choice due to his lack of foreign policy knowledge, but only that.
Pawlenty is the anti-Obama in terms of charisma. That would make him a bad POTUS, eh? Hell, he's got more of it than Gerry Ford and the Peanut Farmer had, though. So be it.
Bachmann will never survive the 24/7 news cycle about what she ate for breakfast and if she used her right hand, what color her stool is, and why does she have so much lipstick in her trash can.
It's going to be Rick Perry or Chris Christie facing off against the annointed one. Rubio will be VP...or maybe Pawlenty, Bachmann, or possible even the evil Palin (OOOoooooohhhh)
And defeating him just as badly as Ronnie whooped Mr. Peanut.
You say he'll win because the R's are unqualified in your opinion. Using that reasoning, shouldn't McCain have easily won in 2008 as he far surpassed Barry in experience and Presidential qualifications? People voted for the most ill-vetted, inexperienced, unqualified teleprompter-reader and yet you believe that is still superior to the R's current candidates. Can you offer any reasons, other than the other side sucks, to actually pull the lever for this guy? Is it his economic policy? His deficit fighting stances? His energy policy? His dimwitted choice for VP, "Butthead Biden"? Come on now, Barry has a record he's going to run on and we'd like to know why you think he deserves 4 more years to completely ruin everything.
coyotes22;838404 wrote:The party of "Do Nothing, No Ideas" kills budget plan:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/22/senate-votes-to-set-aside-cut-cap-and-balance-plan-proposed-by-house-gop/
I think you mean...gut;838598 wrote:Haha....Caught a blurb the other day of how back in 2006, I think, Harry Reid was railing that this couldn't happen and raising the debt ceiling was unacceptable....now he's saying how it has to be done and irresponsible not to. Classic voter stroking at its best.
It's not just the Dems....Seriously....Shoot them all.
