like_that;413145 wrote:Who is Pluto?
writer for the Cleveland Plain Dealer
like_that;413145 wrote:Who is Pluto?
Ever been to Toronto? Toronto is a really cool place. However, all they care about is hockey and who wants to go through customs every week?Pick6;413263 wrote:I dont get why he doesnt want to be in cleveland for the winters...HELLO HE PLAYS IN TORONTO NOW
thedynasty1998;413274 wrote:Ever been to Toronto? Toronto is a really cool place. However, all they care about is hockey and who wants to go through customs every week?
I don't think anyone would argue that Cleveland is a better city than Toronto.
dazedconfused;413283 wrote:i don't think there is a place in the world where i wouldn't go for an extra 30 million
IggyPride00;413315 wrote:They (Bosh and Toronto) are playing a big game of chicken right now to see who will blink first. Bosh will not walk away from the $30 million I don't think, but if he really doesn't want to come to Cleveland is Toronto ready to get nothing for him if he goes to Miami (who they supposedly don't want to deal with).
If he does wind up in Cleveland, I wonder if he will negotiate the opt-out after 3 years into his deal as we know Lebron will. That would be a circus to say the least having your 2 stars be able to walk away if you aren't winning championships.
The opt-out is just an insurance policy for Bron, which is why I think he will demand it regardless of who else they bring in as if things are good its a non-issue, and if they aren't winning then he probably should move on. Bosh seems to have a bit of an ego as well, and I can't see him agreeing to 6 years with no opt-out knowing Lebron could hypothetically leave him after 3 years if the partnership is not working.
Gilbert would give up a first born to get both of their signatures right now, but I hate the instability the opt-outs bring as we saw how it created a side show with Lebron. With Bosh and Lebron, it will be even that much worse next time around if they don't win a ring in short order.
Good Lord. Win one title and be done with it. Who gives a shit if they both walk after 3 years. The Cleveland jokes will finally be over.IggyPride00;413315 wrote:They (Bosh and Toronto) are playing a big game of chicken right now to see who will blink first. Bosh will not walk away from the $30 million I don't think, but if he really doesn't want to come to Cleveland is Toronto ready to get nothing for him if he goes to Miami (who they supposedly don't want to deal with).
If he does wind up in Cleveland, I wonder if he will negotiate the opt-out after 3 years into his deal as we know Lebron will. That would be a circus to say the least having your 2 stars be able to walk away if you aren't winning championships.
The opt-out is just an insurance policy for Bron, which is why I think he will demand it regardless of who else they bring in as if things are good its a non-issue, and if they aren't winning then he probably should move on. Bosh seems to have a bit of an ego as well, and I can't see him agreeing to 6 years with no opt-out knowing Lebron could hypothetically leave him after 3 years if the partnership is not working.
Gilbert would give up a first born to get both of their signatures right now, but I hate the instability the opt-outs bring as we saw how it created a side show with Lebron. With Bosh and Lebron, it will be even that much worse next time around if they don't win a ring in short order.
KR1245;413368 wrote:Bron to announce his decision on Thursday night at 9pm on ESPN?
like_that;413387 wrote:Come on LeBron. Really? A fucking hour long show to announce your decision? That's ridiculous, I am sorry.
grodt;413420 wrote:Just to play devil's advocate but he is selling all the ad time and donating it to the Boys and Girls Club. So he's using everyone's interest to help the kids. Or you could just think he's a selfish narcissist, you're call