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Jul 5, 2010 9:20 PM
Yea..notice how I said it's most likely bullshit?
Jul 5, 2010 9:20pm
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Jul 5, 2010 9:20 PM
Hey gibby, post this on antoher forum you post on

"Sportsandlady of Ohio Chatter just confirmed via twitter that Lebron James has agreed to terms with the Nets"

And say 'i know its not true (yet), just thought i'd post it
Jul 5, 2010 9:20pm
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Jul 5, 2010 9:22 PM
hoops23;411725 wrote:LOL, NO.

First of all, the Knicks just gave Amar'e 20 million. They can't give lebron the max, how else are they going to fill the roster? Sorry, Lebron and Amar'e alone do not win a title.

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The salary on a max deal the first year is slightly under $17 million if I am not mistaken. It averages $20 million over the life of the deal because the back end years are worth alot more than the front end.

They can still sign another max guy.
Jul 5, 2010 9:22pm
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Jul 5, 2010 9:25 PM
Chris Broussard Twitter(10 Hours Ago):

NYK's plan to have Amare and next yr Carmelo has intrigued LeBron. Not saying NYK is frontrunner (they're not) but they're gaining ground
Jul 5, 2010 9:25pm
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Jul 5, 2010 9:33 PM
Some guy named Sam Amico from NBA.com is claiming his "sources" from the West Coast supposedly have LBJ & Bosh to Miami with Wade. Claims this "source" also told him Brian Shaw would turn down the Cavs 12 hours before it happened. Really? I didn't know Shaw turned US down.
Jul 5, 2010 9:33pm
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Jul 5, 2010 9:34 PM
Jesus Christ....all of the "shit" being thrown against the wall in this thread is making it smell like an outhouse. I get the feeling that one particular poster has his eyes closed with dick firmly in hand saying "please leave Cleveland, Lebron....please leave Cleveland."
Jul 5, 2010 9:34pm
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Jul 5, 2010 9:34 PM
yeah, this is getting torn apart on RCF. Sadly, I keep reading all this garbage....because I like to hear the next crazy rumor!
Jul 5, 2010 9:34pm
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Jul 5, 2010 9:43 PM
gibby08;411877 wrote:Yea..notice how I said it's most likely bullshit?

Then why even post it? There are thousands of people posting shit that's most likely bullshit, we don't need more people posting stuff from Quesfire? WTF is that?

Don't answer that, I know you are mentally handicapped.
Jul 5, 2010 9:43pm
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Jul 5, 2010 9:44 PM
Atleast I don't like wieners like you do
Jul 5, 2010 9:44pm
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Jul 5, 2010 9:46 PM
guys...keep that shit over on the "politics forum" thread.
Jul 5, 2010 9:46pm
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Jul 5, 2010 10:46 PM
BR1986FB;411905 wrote:Some guy named Sam Amico from NBA.com is claiming his "sources" from the West Coast supposedly have LBJ & Bosh to Miami with Wade. Claims this "source" also told him Brian Shaw would turn down the Cavs 12 hours before it happened. Really? I didn't know Shaw turned US down.
BR1986FB;411908 wrote:Jesus Christ....all of the "shit" being thrown against the wall in this thread is making it smell like an outhouse. I get the feeling that one particular poster has his eyes closed with dick firmly in hand saying "please leave Cleveland, Lebron....please leave Cleveland."
Not really sure what you are trying to do here. You quote a rumor and then complain about all the shit. If it's garbage just leave it away from here.
Jul 5, 2010 10:46pm
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Jul 5, 2010 10:52 PM
gibby08;411932 wrote:Atleast I don't like wieners like you do







Jul 5, 2010 10:52pm
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Jul 5, 2010 10:58 PM
^^^

And that proves what??

That you can post pictures?
Jul 5, 2010 10:58pm
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Jul 5, 2010 10:59 PM
gibby08;412098 wrote:^^^

And that proves what??

That you can post pictures?
You like skittles?
Jul 5, 2010 10:59pm
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Jul 5, 2010 11:22 PM
Couple tweets from Windy:

Based on several people who have talked to LeBron in last 72 hours, he is giving impression he's undecided after last week's meetings.

He really likes Rose & Noah. But there's lack if shooters on roster. Also it doesn't sound like he's exactly being welcomed by Rose.

Also, can confirm several reports of a rift between Wes Wesley & James camp. Wes was indeed pushing Chicago, I'm told.

At this point, LeBron has tightly closed ranks, only seriously talking about decision with a couple people. Which is why so little info.
Jul 5, 2010 11:22pm
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Jul 5, 2010 11:29 PM
I keep hearing WWW's name, but honestly, what does he bring to the table? He really serves no purpose other than suckling at the teet of Lebron's gravy train.
Jul 5, 2010 11:29pm
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Jul 5, 2010 11:36 PM
wes_mantooth;412153 wrote:I keep hearing WWW's name, but honestly, what does he bring to the table? He really serves no purpose other than suckling at the teet of Lebron's gravy train.

Thats really all he does. Dude is a leach. He thinks he has more influence than he really does. Thats probably why Carter and the rest of Brons inner circle told him to get lost.
Jul 5, 2010 11:36pm
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Jul 5, 2010 11:50 PM
wes_mantooth;412153 wrote:I keep hearing WWW's name, but honestly, what does he bring to the table? He really serves no purpose other than suckling at the teet of Lebron's gravy train.

His calling card was MJ.. I guess he got MJ some kind of deal and ever since then, he's been an insider to many players "circles" since then. Dennis Rodman called him the biggest ass kisser he's ever seen.

Woj reported earlier about him that this would either make or break WWW. If WWW could deliver LeBron to a big city, he'd have it made.. Just as much as Maverick has it made in Cleveland with the Cavs FO right now... WWW would never have that kind of power in Cleveland, so he was trying to push LeBron away.
Jul 5, 2010 11:50pm
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Jul 5, 2010 11:57 PM
IggyPride00;411887 wrote:The salary on a max deal the first year is slightly under $17 million if I am not mistaken. It averages $20 million over the life of the deal because the back end years are worth alot more than the front end.

They can still sign another max guy.

WHOA!

Ok, let's say that Amar'e is making 17 mill this year..

The Knicks still owe Eddy 10.. That's already 27 million, which is just about HALF of the salary cap already..

Then you have Gallinari and Chandler making about a combined 4 million and Tony Douglas and Bill Walker making close to 2 mill combined..

That's 33 million give or take a little.. Add another max contract for about 17 or so million and you're at 50 mill..

That would leave you anywhere from 3-6 million depending on the cap number to sign players. The Knicks don't have the MLE since they're obviously under the cap.. NO WAY they fill the roster by adding two max contracts.. The money just doesn't work.
Jul 5, 2010 11:57pm
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Jul 6, 2010 12:08 AM
hoops23;412216 wrote:WHOA!

Ok, let's say that Amar'e is making 17 mill this year..

The Knicks still owe Eddy 10.. That's already 27 million, which is just about HALF of the salary cap already..

Then you have Gallinari and Chandler making about a combined 4 million and Tony Douglas and Bill Walker making close to 2 mill combined..

That's 33 million give or take a little.. Add another max contract for about 17 or so million and you're at 50 mill..

That would leave you anywhere from 3-6 million depending on the cap number to sign players. The Knicks don't have the MLE since they're obviously under the cap.. NO WAY they fill the roster by adding two max contracts.. The money just doesn't work.
If they can get another max player, they will sign them. Basically you can look for them to fill the roster out with minimum salary guys (you can add as many as you want even if your over the cap) on 1 year deals so that next year they have some cap room again when Curry comes off.

It's not ideal, but they and every other team clearing cap space knew this a while ago. with a $56 million dollar cap, 2 max guys eat up 60% of the cap. You try and get another big salary guy down the road, and then add guys using the mid-level once you're over the cap. As long as you don't trade away your draft picks every year, teams have made this formula work. It just doesn't happen over night and takes time.
Jul 6, 2010 12:08am
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Jul 6, 2010 12:14 AM
IggyPride00;412233 wrote:If they can get another max player, they will sign them. Basically you can look for them to fill the roster out with minimum salary guys (you can add as many as you want even if your over the cap) on 1 year deals so that next year they have some cap room again when Curry comes off.

It's not ideal, but they and every other team clearing cap space knew this a while ago. with a $56 million dollar cap, 2 max guys eat up 60% of the cap. You try and get another big salary guy down the road, and then add guys using the mid-level once you're over the cap. As long as you don't trade away your draft picks every year, teams have made this formula work. It just doesn't happen over night and takes time.

True, but you're not going to win an NBA championship with 2 max guys and a bunch of scrubs. LeBron isn't going to NY, especially to be mediocre for a year.. I could definitely see NY getting Melo next year though.. I've been saying that since last season.
Jul 6, 2010 12:14am
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Jul 6, 2010 12:15 AM
JA Adande is reporting that Mike Miller told him he would LOVE to play in Cleveland with LeBron and would take the MLE to do so.
Jul 6, 2010 12:15am
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Jul 6, 2010 12:17 AM
hoops23;412238 wrote:JA Adande is reporting that Mike Miller told him he would LOVE to play in Cleveland with LeBron and would take the MLE to do so.

We do need our token white dude.
Jul 6, 2010 12:17am
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Jul 6, 2010 12:22 AM
I find that hard to believe that he had an offer of $30 million and the would be willing to take the MLE

Miller would be nice...but you guys would still need a down-low presence
Jul 6, 2010 12:22am
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Jul 6, 2010 12:27 AM
gibby08;412244 wrote:I find that hard to believe that he had an offer of $30 million and the would be willing to take the MLE

Miller would be nice...but you guys would still need a down-low presence

LOL..

The 30 Million was the MLE from the Lakers.. Come on man, if you're going to talk NBA know your stuff.

You can stack years onto the MLE.

And no shit we'd need a down low presence.. We'd have the pieces to trade for one.
Jul 6, 2010 12:27am