jordo212000;404964 wrote:I kind of agree with dynasty. The ideal landing spot for Bosh would be the Thunder. They appear primed to be a contender for the next several years. They have a nice young team. The only problem is that they play in OKC. Bosh doesn't want to do that

lhslep134;404969 wrote:Except that cap-wise it's impossible unless there's a sign and trade and Harden or Westbrook is involved and that ain't happening.

j_crazy;404959 wrote:just once, i'd like to see the cavs make a first round pick

jpake1;404978 wrote:It isn't about what team has the assests or not, it's about what team Bosh wants to go to. The players now have the power. They'll work out a trade with whichever team he wants to play for. The Raptors havn't exactly had the Gilbert stance of I'll just let him go. If Bosh wants to go to Miami, they'll take back their 1st pick they gave Miami and maybe something else. I think they'd be crazy not to take back Beasley and their 1st. If you aren't high on Beasley, fine, then just don't pick up his option next year and rent him out for 4.9M for a year.

SportsAndLady;404946 wrote:Dynasty,

You don't think the Raptors would be okay with receiving Jamison, Hickson, Delonte/Williams, and a 2011 1st round draft pick and sending Bosh and Marcus Banks (dump his contract) to the Cavs in a sign and trade? I mean they are gonna lose Bosh, that is assumed. So they need to try and get the best deal for him right? What other deal would be better than this? Hickson, despite a pretty weak playoffs, is going to be a very good player; Jamison is a 20-10 guy; Mo would be their 2 or come off the bench, and then you get a first round pick. I mean that's potentially 3 starters and a 1st round pick for a guy who is about to leave you anyways?

KR1245;404952 wrote:The Thunder? Come on. There are maybe a handful of teams that have a legit shot at landing Bosh. OKC isnt one of them.

IggyPride00;404983 wrote:That's like saying though Lebron could walk up to Gilbert and say I want a sign and trade with X team, so you have to. No ownership group is going to agree to a bad deal for there club just because the alternative is losing a guy outright.

SportsAndLady;404953 wrote:And lets not forget the whole purpose of sign and trading Bosh--to save money! They aren't looking for a title-contending team next year...they are trying to dump Bosh, save money, and plan for the future....and that Cavs trade would do just that for them. A potential future all-star in Hickson and a first round pick. They dump money on the Banks contract and are relieved of the huge Bosh contract.

jpake1;405006 wrote: That may go down as the 2nd/3rd worst move in NBA history.

BR1986FB;405011 wrote:No it won't. I think most Cavs fans would applaud him for doing so. He's (Gilbert) a villain either way. He's either the "guy who let LBJ walk for nothing" or the "guy who traded away the best player in Cavs history for a bucket of beans." If the Cavs can't get at LEAST .80 cents back on the dollar, you DON'T trade him.

thedynasty1998;405002 wrote:I don't think the Raptors are as dumb as the Cavs and wouldn't touch Jamison. I don't think the Cavs can trade their 2011 1st round pick, because you can't trade consecutive 1st rounders. So, it would come down to Mo Williams and Hickson. Sure they get something out of Bosh, but like I said, I think they can get much more elsewhere.

thedynasty1998;405009 wrote:The sole purpose is not toe save money. Their salary last year was only $46 million and they just missed out on the playoffs. Toronto will always be in rebuilding mode and have to build through trades because no one wants to play in Toronto. The idea that they want to save money is just so far from the truth.

Hickson a future all star? In what league? Have you seen the PF's in the NBA?

jpake1;405016 wrote:I'll never get over this Hickson stuff. Cavs fans have given me some great laughs over the years, but everytime I see them call Hickson a future all-star I laugh. He may end up as one, which would be cool. But they say it as if they've seen the production to warrant it. He's done nothing. He's played with LBJ that spoon fed the kid. Hell, we've seen more production from A. Randolph, M. Speights, and M. Beasley, where is their future all-star campain at? Some of you guys sound like the horrible GM's that draft 18 year old kids that see them as the next Kobe or TMac, but turn out to be bench players in Turkey in 5 years. Don't get all excited about the potential, let the kid actually accomplish some good this on a consistant basis. But hey, do what you want. It just makes for good conversation.

jpake1;405077 wrote:I have seen nothing that makes me say he's got the potential to be an all-star

SportsAndLady;405085 wrote:And lots of people, including NBA GM's think otherwise...so where does that leave us?

SportsAndLady;405033 wrote:Jamison because he's a 20-10 guy who can be a solid player, with no pressure, for Toronto.

SportsAndLady;405035 wrote:Toronto is trying to save money..... What are you smoking?

KR1245;405038 wrote:2 bench players? If the Cavs ive up Mo, JJ and Andy there are pretty good chances that 2 of those guys are starting next season. Throw in Delontes expiring, which Toronto WOULD want and a couple 1st round picks and its not as bad as you think. You make it sound like the Cavs are giving them Boobie and Leon Powe.