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I Wear Pants

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May 28, 2010 12:39 AM
I was looking around facebook and clicked on the page of a kid I went to elementary/junior high/high school with. On his wall he had posted that he was starting to work out and eat better and was doing some mountain biking. I thought "good for him".

Then I read one of the comments on that post. It was basically saying that he shouldn't exercise/that time could be better spent being godly because the bible says that exercise profits little.

SMH
May 28, 2010 12:39am
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May 28, 2010 12:50 AM
I say quit exercising because it interferes with eating cookies and drinking beer.
May 28, 2010 12:50am
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May 28, 2010 12:51 AM
LOL...religion, holding humanity back for thousands of years.
May 28, 2010 12:51am
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May 28, 2010 1:09 AM
I Wear Pants wrote: I was looking around facebook and clicked on the page of a kid I went to elementary/junior high/high school with. On his wall he had posted that he was starting to work out and eat better and was doing some mountain biking. I thought "good for him".

Then I read one of the comments on that post. It was basically saying that he shouldn't exercise/that time could be better spent being godly because the bible says that exercise profits little.

SMH
The Bible also says that our body is a temple for God and that we need to take care of it and treat it with respect. This person obviously doesn't know what they are talking about.
May 28, 2010 1:09am
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May 28, 2010 1:10 AM
SQ_Crazies wrote: LOL...religion, holding humanity back for thousands of years.
Always has, always will.

It's unfortunate, really.
May 28, 2010 1:10am
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May 28, 2010 1:23 AM
krambman wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote: I was looking around facebook and clicked on the page of a kid I went to elementary/junior high/high school with. On his wall he had posted that he was starting to work out and eat better and was doing some mountain biking. I thought "good for him".

Then I read one of the comments on that post. It was basically saying that he shouldn't exercise/that time could be better spent being godly because the bible says that exercise profits little.

SMH
The Bible also says that our body is a temple for God and that we need to take care of it and treat it with respect. This person obviously doesn't know what they are talking about.
The thing is, I'm not one who likes to bash religion or even extremely religious people. But when you take the bible's teachings to places that they were never meant to be it sort of makes me angry. The bible is not a book that teaches every scenario you'll ever be involved in and some people just don't get that.

The crazies give all the reasonable religious people a terrible reputation. (Works with non-religious too)
May 28, 2010 1:23am
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May 28, 2010 1:50 AM
ts1227 wrote:
SQ_Crazies wrote: LOL...religion, holding humanity back for thousands of years.
Always has, always will.

It's unfortunate, really.
Could you imagine where we'd be technologically if the Dark Ages never happened?
May 28, 2010 1:50am
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May 28, 2010 1:59 AM
tk421 wrote:
ts1227 wrote:
SQ_Crazies wrote: LOL...religion, holding humanity back for thousands of years.
Always has, always will.

It's unfortunate, really.
Could you imagine where we'd be technologically if the Dark Ages never happened?
Exactly. The Dark Ages set man way back. They had regressed from the time of the Roman Empire.
May 28, 2010 1:59am
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May 28, 2010 2:45 AM
I think ya'll should check out this thread...Thanks Glory Days. ---> http://www.ohiochatter.com/Thread-Jesus-the-ultimate-figher

Just because this has turned into a 'quasi' pissing contest, much like that story has.
May 28, 2010 2:45am
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May 28, 2010 3:51 AM
dwccrew wrote:
tk421 wrote:
ts1227 wrote:
SQ_Crazies wrote: LOL...religion, holding humanity back for thousands of years.
Always has, always will.

It's unfortunate, really.
Could you imagine where we'd be technologically if the Dark Ages never happened?
Exactly. The Dark Ages set man way back. They had regressed from the time of the Roman Empire.
Yup. One of those nasty side effect of civilizations being more concerned about conquering than learning. When the Romans were at their peak, there was a lot of learning going on. Then Christianity rose to power and destroyed the Roman Empire; first by the huge Christianity vs. Roman (formerly Greek) religion conflicts and then with a particular Crusade leading to the East half of the empire (it's Istanbul, not Constantinople!...for They Might Be Giants fans) getting sacked.

And the broken Roman Empire crumbled with more primitive groups taking control, which led to the Dark Ages. Way to go, holy wars!!!!
May 28, 2010 3:51am
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May 28, 2010 7:54 AM
Why is this thread stickied?
May 28, 2010 7:54am
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May 28, 2010 8:11 AM
I thought this thread would be about the BP oil spill disaster
May 28, 2010 8:11am
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May 28, 2010 8:12 AM
It all comes down to interpretation.
May 28, 2010 8:12am
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May 28, 2010 8:14 AM
i thought the thread would be about another large breasted woman getting them reduced.
May 28, 2010 8:14am
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May 28, 2010 10:00 AM
Yeah, religions have only take away from humanity. Atheists/atheism are/is responsible for all contributions.
May 28, 2010 10:00am
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May 28, 2010 10:44 AM
I Wear Pants wrote:
krambman wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote: I was looking around facebook and clicked on the page of a kid I went to elementary/junior high/high school with. On his wall he had posted that he was starting to work out and eat better and was doing some mountain biking. I thought "good for him".

Then I read one of the comments on that post. It was basically saying that he shouldn't exercise/that time could be better spent being godly because the bible says that exercise profits little.

SMH
The Bible also says that our body is a temple for God and that we need to take care of it and treat it with respect. This person obviously doesn't know what they are talking about.
The thing is, I'm not one who likes to bash religion or even extremely religious people. But when you take the bible's teachings to places that they were never meant to be it sort of makes me angry. The bible is not a book that teaches every scenario you'll ever be involved in and some people just don't get that.

The crazies give all the reasonable religious people a terrible reputation. (Works with non-religious too)
I honestly have no idea where this person thinks that the Bible says that exercise profits little. The only thing I can think of is the Sermon on the Mount when Jesus tell his followers not to worry about what we eat or what we will wear because God will provide for us. Clearly though, this doesn't mean that we sit around and do nothing expecting for clothes to appear on our backs and food to appear in our stomachs. It simply means that we don't fill all of our time concerning ourselves is such things or becoming stressed out and worried about them. If that's the passage this person is using, then they totally missed the point.

And you're all right, the Dark Ages had nothing to do with weak Roman emperors, the end of the republic, native armies that had little loyalty to Rome, the plague, or poor leadership by the provincial princes who assumed power after Rome fell. It was all the church. And the church didn't do anything to provide for the basic needs of the people like food and medicine during these times either. yep, religion has always hindered and never helped human progress.
May 28, 2010 10:44am
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May 28, 2010 12:01 PM
ernest_t_bass wrote: Why is this thread stickied?
This was stickied? Lol.
May 28, 2010 12:01pm
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May 28, 2010 12:03 PM
I Wear Pants wrote:
ernest_t_bass wrote: Why is this thread stickied?
This was stickied? Lol.

Yeah I think a couple of people splooged while replying, some pages stuck together ;)
May 28, 2010 12:03pm
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May 28, 2010 12:04 PM
BCBulldog wrote: Yeah, religions have only take away from humanity. Atheists/atheism are/is responsible for all contributions.
Bad logic there. No one is saying that people of faith aren't contributors to society and haven't contributed great things. Because that'd be a stupid and incorrect thing to say.

But organized religion could definitely have been/be something that hindered the overall advancement of society.

Any practice that tells you to think with your heart instead of your mind runs that risk.
May 28, 2010 12:04pm
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May 28, 2010 12:06 PM
Thank God I don't have a Facebook. MySpace rulz.
May 28, 2010 12:06pm
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May 28, 2010 12:09 PM
I Wear Pants wrote:
BCBulldog wrote: Yeah, religions have only take away from humanity. Atheists/atheism are/is responsible for all contributions.
Bad logic there. No one is saying that people of faith aren't contributors to society and haven't contributed great things. Because that'd be a stupid and incorrect thing to say.

But organized religion could definitely have been/be something that hindered the overall advancement of society.

Any practice that tells you to think with your heart instead of your mind runs that risk.
I personally don't think that theory is correct either, simply because people snuck around with their scientific/medical/whatever interests.
Do I think that people should have resorted to sneaking and hiding? Absolutely not. But, ultimately, they still made progress despite everything.
May 28, 2010 12:09pm
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May 28, 2010 12:15 PM
CenterBHSFan wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote:
BCBulldog wrote: Yeah, religions have only take away from humanity. Atheists/atheism are/is responsible for all contributions.
Bad logic there. No one is saying that people of faith aren't contributors to society and haven't contributed great things. Because that'd be a stupid and incorrect thing to say.

But organized religion could definitely have been/be something that hindered the overall advancement of society.

Any practice that tells you to think with your heart instead of your mind runs that risk.
I personally don't think that theory is correct either, simply because people snuck around with their scientific/medical/whatever interests.
Do I think that people should have resorted to sneaking and hiding? Absolutely not. But, ultimately, they still made progress despite everything.
But what could they have done had they not been forced underground and prosecuted/tortured/burnt for being witches and wizards?
May 28, 2010 12:15pm
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May 28, 2010 12:40 PM
I Wear Pants wrote:Bad logic there. No one is saying that people of faith aren't contributors to society and haven't contributed great things. Because that'd be a stupid and incorrect thing to say.
Ya think?! Some might even say that their religious beliefs inspired them to make those contributions.
I Wear Pants wrote:But organized religion could definitely have been/be something that hindered the overall advancement of society.
As has politics, education, family, entertainment, alcohol, drugs, movies, television, literature, and any other thing that you may think of. Nothing is purely altruistic in all circumstances. Ironic, I believe most religions cover this subject.
I Wear Pants wrote:Any practice that tells you to think with your heart instead of your mind runs that risk.
You may want to discuss that further with the arts, charities, and even business to see how they feel about it. I'm guessing it will not be well received.
May 28, 2010 12:40pm
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May 28, 2010 1:14 PM
Hmm...according to Mod CP, I stuck the thread. I have no memory of doing so, which means I must have inadvertently clicked on something, I guess. Strange...
May 28, 2010 1:14pm
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May 28, 2010 2:18 PM
BCBulldog wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote:Bad logic there. No one is saying that people of faith aren't contributors to society and haven't contributed great things. Because that'd be a stupid and incorrect thing to say.
Ya think?! Some might even say that their religious beliefs inspired them to make those contributions.
I Wear Pants wrote:But organized religion could definitely have been/be something that hindered the overall advancement of society.
As has politics, education, family, entertainment, alcohol, drugs, movies, television, literature, and any other thing that you may think of. Nothing is purely altruistic in all circumstances. Ironic, I believe most religions cover this subject.
I Wear Pants wrote:Any practice that tells you to think with your heart instead of your mind runs that risk.
You may want to discuss that further with the arts, charities, and even business to see how they feel about it. I'm guessing it will not be well received.
Good points.

But besides art (you got me there) I still think that everything should be run using sound logic and reasoning. Not feelings.
May 28, 2010 2:18pm