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Gulf Oil Spill -- An act of God?

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May 27, 2010 11:38 PM
This is way more serious than we really can rationalize. I hope that it is stopped soon and I hope someone is held responsible and punished severely.
May 27, 2010 11:38pm
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May 28, 2010 9:25 AM
My fishing bud was freaking out the 3rd day saying it will get in the loop current and ruin the keys and come into Mo Lagoon. I thought they would have it stopped in a couple weeks. Its a shame so many hard working Americans in that region have had hurricanes and now this. The story has been in the news here everyday, but I guess its been kinda overlooked nationally until the new barrel estimates.
May 28, 2010 9:25am
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May 28, 2010 10:23 AM
I have the feed up right now there are some machines working.
May 28, 2010 10:23am
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May 28, 2010 1:53 PM
What a MF'ing disaster
May 28, 2010 1:53pm
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May 28, 2010 3:45 PM
Speedofsand wrote: Obama is giving good answers today.
I loved his.."we won't sleep until this is fixed...we are going to work on a solution for this day and night" response...then he grabbed his backs and left for vacation! :D
May 28, 2010 3:45pm
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May 28, 2010 3:48 PM
Heard where there is a company in Europe that makes these giant ass skimmers that would help coral up a good portion of the oil that has escaped...they offered them to BP at the cost of what it takes to manufacture them...and BP refused. Heard BP is refusing all kinds of help right now. From the governments to the fisherman that are docked. They've offered to help try to coral up oil as well..but BP refuses that as well.
May 28, 2010 3:48pm
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May 28, 2010 5:00 PM
Swamp Fox wrote: Who's free will causes tornadoes? Famines that cause thousands of deaths? House fires that kill little kids before their lives have hardly begun? Horrific automobile accidents that wipe out entire families? Dictators who murder millions to forward their own perverse aspirations of dominating the world stage..people like Hitler, Stalin, Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, and all the others who have cut a bloody swath through history?
I think the excuse that God permits people to have "free will" and make their own mistakes is a bunch of (fill in an appropriate descriptive term). My God is a kind and benevolent God. Certainly Not a hateful and vengeful God who punishes people for their trangressions by murdering them. Particularly small children who have never even had the chance to live.

BP is a huge corporation interested in making money. Sometimes they attempt to cut corners. When they do, things happen. Usually bad things. I do not believe that God has anything to do with it, but in my simplified religious upbringing, I am constantly amazed that our kind and caring God doesn't step in and say "Wait a second here BP, for your carelessness, I command you to wander aimlessly in the desert for a certain number of years until such time that you have felt remorse for the horrible suffering you have caused millions through your careless management". Since God never seems to do that, it makes me wonder sometimes about God.

Have you ever read the Old Testament and the things that had to happen to further God's (Yahweh) plan?? There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy.(James 4-12) And if you do not believe that God (Yahweh) doesn't perform miracles and intercedes in peoples lives today, I don't know what to tell you. People sometimes think in terms of only ones life on Earth, which is a mist that appears for a while and then vanishes (James 4-14), instead of ones eternal life which is forever. If anyone doesn't think that God (Yahweh) isn't a merciful God (Yahweh) think about sacrificing your Son or even a loved through what Jesus went through for our sake.
Of course if you don't believe in God (Yahweh) this means nothing to you and that also is your Freewill Choice.
May 28, 2010 5:00pm
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May 28, 2010 5:12 PM
dwccrew wrote: This is way more serious than we really can rationalize. I hope that it is stopped soon and I hope someone is held responsible and punished severely.
GoChiefs wrote: Heard where there is a company in Europe that makes these giant ass skimmers that would help coral up a good portion of the oil that has escaped...they offered them to BP at the cost of what it takes to manufacture them...and BP refused. Heard BP is refusing all kinds of help right now. From the governments to the fisherman that are docked. They've offered to help try to coral up oil as well..but BP refuses that as well.

No worries guys... They are filling the busted pipe up with golf balls, debris, and mud. This will all be over soon. :rolleyes:
May 28, 2010 5:12pm
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May 28, 2010 5:17 PM
Lulz
May 28, 2010 5:17pm
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May 28, 2010 5:22 PM
Seriously... If they can place a tube inside the pipe to grab some of the oil, why can't they slip a tube inside that has an "inflatable bulb" at the end of it kind of like an intubation tube which will plug the pipe and allow oil to flow freely up the tube to ships? While that is working, repair the hole...
May 28, 2010 5:22pm
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May 28, 2010 6:10 PM
Don't know what kind of pressure is pushing the oil..but I'd imagine that it would be enough to push out any kid of 'inflatable bulb'...I'm sure that's something that was thought about on day 1.
May 28, 2010 6:10pm
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May 28, 2010 6:25 PM
there are ways to hold the pressure, but the amount of fluid that it's handling is the problem i believe that the "Insertion tube" that they put in last week lost the seal it had because the fluid velocity was so high that it cut through the metal (it was something much harder than steel) and they lost the seal.
May 28, 2010 6:25pm
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May 28, 2010 6:30 PM
GoChiefs wrote: Don't know what kind of pressure is pushing the oil..but I'd imagine that it would be enough to push out any kid of 'inflatable bulb'...I'm sure that's something that was thought about on day 1.
The pressure would be relieved greatly by the tube running through the inflatable cuff allowing the pressure of the oil to flow right through it and to a container ship. The same principal when you intubate a person to control an airway. the tube allows oxygen and carbon dioxide to flow through and the inflatable bulb secures tightly in the windpipe. Its not a permanent solution, but with today's materials, I would have to assume there is something out there that can be pressurized to secure a tube long enough for repair to the hole.

Hell, its just a thought... If they thought of something like this on day one, I wonder what day they thought about packing it with golf balls, debris, and mud? Have you ever tried to plug something up under water with mud when there is force behind it? its like pissing in the wind... BP needs to step aside and let the help take over.
May 28, 2010 6:30pm
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May 28, 2010 6:42 PM
j_crazy wrote: there are ways to hold the pressure, but the amount of fluid that it's handling is the problem i believe that the "Insertion tube" that they put in last week lost the seal it had because the fluid velocity was so high that it cut through the metal (it was something much harder than steel) and they lost the seal.
Like I said, its not a permanent solution. If the idea I suggested were possible, they would have to be prepared to repair the hole immediately. I'm not sure if divers are able to work at that depth, but the minute the bulb is inflated and the leak is stopped, they would have to be ready to go with a patch for the hole to be welded to the pipe. The patch covering the hole would stop the "bulb" from being forced out because the hole would be much smaller. At that point the tube would carry the oil to the ships while piping with a valve would be lowered over the tube large enough diameter to cover the entire hole. Weld that piece of pipe and valve, remove the tube, and close the valve.
May 28, 2010 6:42pm