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ZWICK 4 PREZ

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May 25, 2010 2:49 PM
a suck ass

Every year in our corporate outing I play with another electrical engineer, and 2 mechanical engineers. 3 of us are pretty good golfers and the other guy is decent and we pretty much take it every year.
My bosses boss (Director) asked me at lunch if I'd play with him, his boss (SR. VP) and his former boss (Pres of a different group now) in the outing this year. My bosses boss plays in the same company league as me so that's the golfing connection.
You can't really tell him no, but I will never hear the end of it if at work if I do.

Bail on my current team

Stick with um.

BTW.. leagues tonight at 4:20 and he wants to know before we tee off.

I already know my answer.. just wanna see what you guys would do.
May 25, 2010 2:49pm
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SQ_Crazies

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May 25, 2010 2:53 PM
Stick with em so you don't lose. Either way it's win-win for you. You say yes and you're a kiss ass. You say no and you show some level of loyalty to your old team--and that can be your reason, you want to be loyal to the guys you play with. Especially when they're who you work with on a daily basis--guarantee he understands and he may even be impressed that you were able to turn him down.

Don't let your boss pimp you.
May 25, 2010 2:53pm
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ZWICK 4 PREZ

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May 25, 2010 2:57 PM
1 point of interest... the guy they used to play with was a few years older than me and played a lot of SCAGA golf with me.. he was a real good golfer too (better than me) and lost his job last summer ... it may be a marked position lol
May 25, 2010 2:57pm
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queencitybuckeye

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May 25, 2010 3:02 PM
Corporate outing = work. Play with co-workers on your own time if you want. Networking != suck ass
May 25, 2010 3:02pm
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Bigred1995

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May 25, 2010 3:03 PM
I say bail! Whenever you can rub shoulders (I'm not sure how often you get the opportunity so it may be a non-issue) with the Sr. VP of an organization you take it!
May 25, 2010 3:03pm
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trackandccrunner

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May 25, 2010 3:11 PM
Bail You get to play with your bosses boss, the SR VP and the President of another company. Work golf outing are all about making contacts with the top people and you've been offered that chance I wouldn't pass it up. They might not be as good as your current team but they'll probably have some pretty funny stories.
May 25, 2010 3:11pm
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GoChiefs

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May 25, 2010 3:20 PM
Stick with 'um. The bosses aren't going to do anything for you. :D
May 25, 2010 3:20pm
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May 25, 2010 4:05 PM
Bail dude, think of your future
May 25, 2010 4:05pm
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SQ_Crazies

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May 25, 2010 4:32 PM
Based on polling results and the overall feel of this site in most other threads--it's pretty clear that you should stick with your old team. Followers would bail.
May 25, 2010 4:32pm
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jmog

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May 25, 2010 4:36 PM
I say stick with your current team, but I'm always one that could care less about "kissing butts".
May 25, 2010 4:36pm
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I Wear Pants

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May 25, 2010 4:58 PM
Play with your bosses. You can play with your friends all the time.
May 25, 2010 4:58pm
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SQ_Crazies

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May 25, 2010 5:21 PM
I Wear Pants wrote: Play with your bosses. You can play with your friends all the time.
I feel as if you didn't really understand, it isn't that he's passing up on friendly round with his "friends".
May 25, 2010 5:21pm
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darbypitcher22

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May 25, 2010 8:19 PM
Do you want to share the wealth with your teammates, or be the ringer for somebody else's group?
May 25, 2010 8:19pm
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ZWICK 4 PREZ

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May 25, 2010 9:10 PM
Bigred1995 wrote: (I'm not sure how often you get the opportunity so it may be a non-issue)
Once a month when I justify my job to my bosses boss about what Im currently working on.
May 25, 2010 9:10pm
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ZWICK 4 PREZ

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May 25, 2010 9:12 PM
darbypitcher22 wrote: Do you want to share the wealth with your teammates, or be the ringer for somebody else's group?
I'd still be the ringer on either team,.. just much more so on the bosses team cuz they all pretty much suck.
May 25, 2010 9:12pm
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darbypitcher22

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May 25, 2010 9:13 PM
well be the ringer on the better team.... at least then you'll have a chance of winning instead of having to carry the other bunch to a middle of the pack finish
May 25, 2010 9:13pm
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ZWICK 4 PREZ

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May 25, 2010 9:14 PM
BTW... I told him I'd play with him.
My golf partner in today's league is one of the guys I play in the outing with and he'd said I'd be stupid not to.
May 25, 2010 9:14pm
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darbypitcher22

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May 25, 2010 9:21 PM
well then i guess you're validated
May 25, 2010 9:21pm
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se-alum

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May 25, 2010 9:21 PM
ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: BTW... I told him I'd play with him.
My golf partner in today's league is one of the guys I play in the outing with and he'd said I'd be stupid not to.
Definitely the correct choice. Networking is ass kissing only to those that never have the opportunity.
May 25, 2010 9:21pm
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Timber

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May 25, 2010 10:24 PM
As you know... one can learn a great deal about an individual by playing golf. You might learn things about your bosses boss, etc. that truly allow you to understand where they are coming from, how they process information, how things can operate better and become more productive. You also can build a relational bridge that only golf can build... to help you communicate to the top and make certain your viewpoints are heard (unfiltered)... if you want them to be. Have fun and enjoy the experience.
May 25, 2010 10:24pm
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said_aouita

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May 25, 2010 10:31 PM
Play with the bosses. Sounds like the perfect "kiss up" chance.
May 25, 2010 10:31pm