What Federal Programs and Departments in the Executive Branch need to be eliminated?

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BoatShoes

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May 20, 2010 1:37 AM
If we are to take back the Republic and once again align our Government with the spirit and the text of the Constitution, what programs and departments do we need to get rid of?
May 20, 2010 1:37am
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QuakerOats

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May 20, 2010 9:12 AM
Let's start with the Four E's first --- Education, Energy, EPA, and Entitlements.

And next year, we can eliminate a few more.
May 20, 2010 9:12am
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cbus4life

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May 20, 2010 9:21 AM
What do you propose cutting, specifically, from those areas?
May 20, 2010 9:21am
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CenterBHSFan

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May 20, 2010 9:27 AM
BS, I'm interested, since you brought the subject up, what you think should be eliminated.
You didn't say...
May 20, 2010 9:27am
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cbus4life

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May 20, 2010 9:30 AM
I think we should do away with the entire government and get Reagan to come back from the dead and fix everything and then go away ala Cincinnatus.
May 20, 2010 9:30am
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ptown_trojans_1

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May 20, 2010 9:33 AM
QuakerOats wrote: Let's start with the Four E's first --- Education, Energy, EPA, and Entitlements.

And next year, we can eliminate a few more.
What do you propose to do with the Energy Department's possession of the country's nuclear weapons infrastructure, like the labs, maintenance, storage, loading and dismantling areas? It makes up about a 1/3 of their budget, 9 billion a year, p.18.
http://www.mbe.doe.gov/budget/11budget/Content/FY2011Highlights.pdf

Also, how do you expect to maintain the environment, clean air, water, etc. without a Energy, EPA, NRC, etc? How do you prevent another oil spill?
May 20, 2010 9:33am
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QuakerOats

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May 20, 2010 9:34 AM
cbus4life wrote: What do you propose cutting, specifically, from those areas?
I propose their elimination. If you want to have a phased out elimination over 2 years, so be it. They are redundant, over-reaching, unnecessary, and highly costly. They could be eliminated, and no one would miss them.
May 20, 2010 9:34am
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cbus4life

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May 20, 2010 9:37 AM
You want to eliminate the department that maintains our nuclear weapons, essentially?

And i'm assuming that you want to eliminate the Department of Education and have all decisions, etc., come from state and local government?
May 20, 2010 9:37am
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Manhattan Buckeye

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May 20, 2010 9:43 AM
U.S. Postal Service, it would have to be phased out over a long period (10 years?) and it sucks for the workers, but it has become a victim of modernization. Almost everything important or relevant can be done electronically, for traditional paper mailings (e.g. wedding invitations) I'm sure the private sector can find a lower cost alternative. FedEx and UPS don't have to be the only players in the game.
May 20, 2010 9:43am
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cbus4life

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May 20, 2010 9:45 AM
If we brought back the pony express exclusively, all problems relating the postal service would be eliminated.
May 20, 2010 9:45am
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Manhattan Buckeye

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May 20, 2010 9:47 AM
And it would help take care of the feral horse problem!
May 20, 2010 9:47am
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cbus4life

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May 20, 2010 9:49 AM
True!

Or let Kevin Costner run it like he did in that terrible Postman movie or whatever it was called.

But, we should probably keep him in reserve to take over once Obama brings about the apocalypse.

Kevin would also be good when it turns out Al Gore is right and the world is covered in water.

Screw Noah, i would take Kevin Costner any day of the week.
May 20, 2010 9:49am
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Manhattan Buckeye

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May 20, 2010 9:52 AM
Oh Sweet Jesus way to highjack your own thread with a reference to the worst movie of the 90's (arguably), I'm not sure what about that movie was the shittiest:

1) The whole my wife needs to have sex with you, the Postman, because we want a baby - which happens all the time obviously.

2) The reference to Richard Starkey as the new leader, as if everyone is so stupid they don't know that's the name of a member of the biggest band of all time.

3) Tom Petty's presence, I really hope he was high the whole time during production.
May 20, 2010 9:52am
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Belly35

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May 20, 2010 9:53 AM
Let start with Czars..... and their staff...........and work are way down
May 20, 2010 9:53am
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jmog

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May 20, 2010 9:54 AM
cbus4life wrote: True!

Or let Kevin Costner run it like he did in that terrible Postman movie or whatever it was called.

But, we should probably keep him in reserve to take over once Obama brings about the apocalypse.

Kevin would also be good when it turns out Al Gore is right and the world is covered in water.

Screw Noah, i would take Kevin Costner any day of the week.
Great point, between The Postman and Water World Costner can handle any post apocalyptical world...and start the new baseball league at the same time!
May 20, 2010 9:54am
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cbus4life

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May 20, 2010 10:01 AM
Yep, and, he can also deal quite well with the inevitable group of folks that will turn into "savages" as a result of the new world they're living in.

And, like you said, he could bring entertainment into the ravaged world through his baseball knowledge and skills.

And, of course, you have to remember the brilliant movie The Guardian, so he could save us all from the water as well, if his skills from Waterworld weren't enough!
May 20, 2010 10:01am
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cbus4life

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May 20, 2010 10:02 AM
Tom Petty in that movie immediately made it one of the best movies of the 90's, IMO.
May 20, 2010 10:02am
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Manhattan Buckeye

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May 20, 2010 10:04 AM
One more thing, poor Ford Lincoln Mercury had to wait until Rescue Me to revive his career, at least he wasn't named Oldsmobile Pontiac Saturn...that would have dated the movie!
May 20, 2010 10:04am
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cbus4life

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May 20, 2010 10:05 AM
Haha!
May 20, 2010 10:05am
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ptown_trojans_1

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May 20, 2010 10:13 AM
This thread is now epic.

Although, I think Mel Gibson deserves a mention too, seeing how he is Mad Max and did save the world from aliens in Signs.
May 20, 2010 10:13am
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jmog

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May 20, 2010 10:33 AM
cbus4life wrote: Yep, and, he can also deal quite well with the inevitable group of folks that will turn into "savages" as a result of the new world they're living in.

And, like you said, he could bring entertainment into the ravaged world through his baseball knowledge and skills.

And, of course, you have to remember the brilliant movie The Guardian, so he could save us all from the water as well, if his skills from Waterworld weren't enough!
And don't forget, once all technology breaks down he is one heck of a shot with a bow and arrow as the Sherrif of Nottingham once found out first hand!
May 20, 2010 10:33am
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Manhattan Buckeye

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May 20, 2010 10:35 AM
With a shitty English (non) accent.
May 20, 2010 10:35am
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cbus4life

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May 20, 2010 10:42 AM
Good point, Jmog!

Perfectly suited to a world that has been stripped of modern technology.
May 20, 2010 10:42am
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cbus4life

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May 20, 2010 10:43 AM
ptown_trojans_1 wrote: This thread is now epic.

Although, I think Mel Gibson deserves a mention too, seeing how he is Mad Max and did save the world from aliens in Signs.
Indeed. Seeing how i'm predicting it to be a nuclea holocaust rather than a global warming sort-of disaster, i think he would be well suited to deal with the inevitable "aliens" that will result from exposure to so much nuclear radiation and the like.

Maybe thrown in Kurt Russel to be the enforcer, as he has proven himself to be quite useful in situations where society has broken down.
May 20, 2010 10:43am
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fan_from_texas

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May 20, 2010 10:52 AM
QuakerOats wrote: Let's start with the Four E's first --- Education, Energy, EPA, and Entitlements.

And next year, we can eliminate a few more.
Would you keep the state analogues of these agencies? Or eliminate those as well? If the latter, how would you propose dealing with various envtl. externalities/tragedy of the commons situations?

Also, if you eliminate the DoE, what would you propose doing with wholesale power? What's your solution to preventing monopoly pricing in a natural monopoly field?
May 20, 2010 10:52am