there probably would be no one in congress right now if they were all investigated.I Wear Pants wrote: Took bribes and used his campaign funds for himself.
Get it yet?Glory Days wrote:there probably would be no one in congress right now if they were all investigated.I Wear Pants wrote: Took bribes and used his campaign funds for himself.
So unless we catch all the crooks, we can't punish the ones we do catch?SQ_Crazies wrote:Get it yet?Glory Days wrote:there probably would be no one in congress right now if they were all investigated.I Wear Pants wrote: Took bribes and used his campaign funds for himself.
Lol, however you try to rationalize it, you're still a hypocrite and lose all credibility when complaining about all the "crooks in DC" when you would actively work to put an actual convicted "crook" in DC along with all the other crooks you see there.QuakerOats wrote: One thing that differentiates Traficant from all the other 'criminals' in D.C. is that he has actually 'done his time' and 'paid for his crime'. From one standpoint that perhaps puts him ahead of all the shysters, cheats, and hypocrites in congress.
Add that to the fact that he will not be grovelling up Pelosi's rear every time she looks his way, and he will not be supporting disastrous legislation like obamacare, and cap-n-tax; he should be considered.
Plus you have to like his stance to abolish the IRS.
So you are saying that if you had your choice between:cbus4life wrote: Lol, however you try to rationalize it, you're still a hypocrite and lose all credibility when complaining about all the "crooks in DC" when you would actively work to put an actual convicted "crook" in DC along with all the other crooks you see there.
Or because he is the one that actually committed a crime rather than just being someone that you disagree with.QuakerOats wrote: One thing that differentiates Traficant from all the other 'criminals' in D.C. is that he has actually 'done his time' and 'paid for his crime'. From one standpoint that perhaps puts him ahead of all the shysters, cheats, and hypocrites in congress.
Add that to the fact that he will not be grovelling up Pelosi's rear every time she looks his way, and he will not be supporting disastrous legislation like obamacare, and cap-n-tax; he should be considered.
Plus you have to like his stance to abolish the IRS.
Probably wouldn't vote for either. Just think it's funny that you would willingly put a crook in Washington when you complain often about D.C. being "full of crooks."QuakerOats wrote:So you are saying that if you had your choice between:cbus4life wrote: Lol, however you try to rationalize it, you're still a hypocrite and lose all credibility when complaining about all the "crooks in DC" when you would actively work to put an actual convicted "crook" in DC along with all the other crooks you see there.
a rehabilitated small-time "crook" who served his sentence, and would vote in the best interests of the job creators,
vs.
a phony, ass-kissing, flunkie who supports the most disastrous legislation ever to come out of D.C. which will only exacerbate our massive unemployment problem,
that you would choose the latter?
This is a really sad postSQ_Crazies wrote:Do you even have a clue what he went to jail for?I Wear Pants wrote: Except he isn't. He's a criminal douchebag.
He went to jail because he pissed someone off and they sold him out. He went to jail for playing the political game, which is a necessity whether that is right or wrong and whether you like it or not.
Great postAl Bundy wrote: The problem with the Mahoning Valley is that it is basically a one-party area. For this reason, the area gets very little from federal or state projects. The democrats take this area for granted, so they don't generate many projects. The republicans know they can't win here, so they don't help get any projects. In many cases, I feel the people voting for Traficant are voting against this situation more than they are voting for him.
Tim Ryan is a good person, but he is a great example of the situation that I described above. I am not sure if he has ever voted against Pelosi on anything. He blindly follows the party.
I am a democrat, but I don't always vote for someone just because he/she has a D after their name on the ballot.
Not only is he a blind follower, he is also the guy that got up and railed against the Tea Party for being racist with no actual proof.Al Bundy wrote:
Tim Ryan is a good person, but he is a great example of the situation that I described above. I am not sure if he has ever voted against Pelosi on anything. He blindly follows the party.
No, no. You are the one who is clearly misguided.Rocket08 wrote:This is a really sad postSQ_Crazies wrote:Do you even have a clue what he went to jail for?I Wear Pants wrote: Except he isn't. He's a criminal douchebag.
He went to jail because he pissed someone off and they sold him out. He went to jail for playing the political game, which is a necessity whether that is right or wrong and whether you like it or not.
He went to jail because he took brides and illegally enriched himself by using his office. There is no amount of "serving his time" to allow someone who willingly and knowingly stole from the public to be allowed to represent the public.
If there are hundreds out there that do the same thing, go after them. But that does not justify in anyway what this buffoon has done to this valley.
Hopefully he gets his hat handed to him, and he goes away (but I doubt it) There are just too many people out there who, for some unknown reason, thinks this guy cares about anyone other than himself
You're very misguided
Paladin;414028 wrote:Its too bad we won't get to see Ryan wipe the floor with old Jimbo. But he could run yet as a write-in candiate. Same result. Frankly Jimbo is a crook and even many of the airheads here in the Valley wouldn't be enough votes to win for him. Ryan will have another sizable vote.
I chuckle at the comments. Both the Vindy & the Trib have run articles in the past showing the amount of money both Jimbo & Ryan had brought into the Valley. Ryan wiped the floor with Jimbo on that as well. Jimbo was looked at as a fool & a loser in DC by both parties and did little for the Valley , other than give lip service. Ryan has pored alot of money in the the Valley and now lots of plants are starting up or expanding and jobs are coming back. Would appear that the Far Right fears Pelosi will retain her position as the D don't appear to lose either house this Fall and Ryan is in line to bring home more money ( and probably jobs) as a close friend to Pelosi.
I Wear Pants;414916 wrote:The tech sector in Youngstown is actually growing pretty well. Youngstown Business Incubator is one of the best incubators in the country. Also, Youngstown has been named one of the best cities to start a business in by several magazines recently.
And there's the steel plant that's opening (not saying it was Ryan alone or him at all that helped get it but he obviously didn't drive it away).
Glory Days;415325 wrote:haha wasnt it also named one of the worst cities too by a different magazine at the same time that magazine said it was one of the best? i thought something like that happend.
