Is Pryor going to be a better NFL prospect then Tebow?

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Apr 28, 2010 11:03 PM
rock_knutne wrote: IMO, Pryor would be a beast of a WR in the NFL. As stated above, there's been plenty of college QB's who have went on to the NFL and had succesful careers as WR's. Besides Matt Jones......Antwan Randle El, Hines Ward and Arnaz Battle are just a few.
Yep, for sure. Nothing against any of those guys, but if they can do it, then there's no doubt in my mind that Pryor can also due to how physically gifted he is.

And I have a feeling that Armanti Edwards will end up as another one of those guys who was a QB in college and ended up being a productive WR in the NFL.
Apr 28, 2010 11:03pm
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Apr 28, 2010 11:20 PM
Tebow has 2 rings and a Heisman, and right now John Brantley is a better NFL prospect than Pryor.

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Apr 28, 2010 11:20pm
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Apr 28, 2010 11:22 PM
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Apr 28, 2010 11:22pm
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Apr 28, 2010 11:27 PM
rock_knutne wrote: IMO, Pryor would be a beast of a WR in the NFL. As stated above, there's been plenty of college QB's who have went on to the NFL and had succesful careers as WR's. Besides Matt Jones......Antwan Randle El, Hines Ward and Arnaz Battle are just a few.
Arnaz Battle also played wr in college
Apr 28, 2010 11:27pm
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Apr 28, 2010 11:36 PM
Neither Pryor nor Tebow will ever start a game at QB in the NFL.
Apr 28, 2010 11:36pm
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Apr 29, 2010 4:10 AM
Look I am a huge Michigan fan but Tate is never going to make it in the NFL. Pryor has a legit shot at WR but he would be a project and most of the time projects do not go in the first or second round. Tebow also can be a FB just like Pryor as a WR.

Tebow was a horrible !st round pick IMO. Pryor would also be a horrible !st round pick but if someone really wants him, it is possible. Finally to answer the question, Tebow has a better shot as a Pro QB IMO but Pryor has a better shot as a Pro. Neither will make it as QB's IMO but I would take Pryor on athleticism over Tebow in the NFL.
Apr 29, 2010 4:10am
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Apr 29, 2010 4:11 AM
Speedofsand wrote: Tebow has 2 rings and a Heisman, and right now John Brantley is a better NFL prospect than Pryor.

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Troy Smith has a Heisman trophy and he has had a hell of an NFL career so far. National tittles and awards don't mean shit in the NFL.
Apr 29, 2010 4:11am
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Apr 29, 2010 6:41 AM
2quik4u wrote:
rock_knutne wrote: IMO, Pryor would be a beast of a WR in the NFL. As stated above, there's been plenty of college QB's who have went on to the NFL and had succesful careers as WR's. Besides Matt Jones......Antwan Randle El, Hines Ward and Arnaz Battle are just a few.
Arnaz Battle also played wr in college
He started at QB until he was injured, damn good option QB too.
Apr 29, 2010 6:41am
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Apr 29, 2010 8:15 AM
Let's give Pryor some time before we speculate. Nobody would've imagined Vince Young being an NFL QB after his 2nd year @ Texas.
Apr 29, 2010 8:15am
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Apr 29, 2010 8:29 AM
rock_knutne wrote: IMO, Pryor would be a beast of a WR in the NFL. As stated above, there's been plenty of college QB's who have went on to the NFL and had succesful careers as WR's. Besides Matt Jones......Antwan Randle El, Hines Ward and Arnaz Battle are just a few.
Anything is possible. So if Pryor was in the draft today, what would his draft status be? I think we all agree nobody is going to want him as a QB. So if a team thinks he *might* be a decent WR, where do they take him? I can't see anyone gambling too much on him. Late rounds for sure.

As stated though, he has 2 more seasons, assuming he sticks around, which I think he will. His draft status won't be anything to have him bolt after this year.
Apr 29, 2010 8:29am
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Apr 29, 2010 8:46 AM
I know it seems like he has been there a long time, but Pryor is only going into his junior year. Many QB's don't develop until they reach that age. As far as a receiver, he is an unknown. We don't know if he has good hands. We don't know about his ability to run routes. He is a great athlete, but his strides are so long it brings into question whether he could get off the line against a bump and run corner, and can he make quick cuts in his route running? I am a Bucks fan and hope he develops into a great player. I just think it is too early to know exactly how he fits in at the next level at this point.
Apr 29, 2010 8:46am
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Apr 29, 2010 9:37 AM
TP has 2 full season s to improve his decision making, which I think is his biggest weakness. As for his poor mechanics, lots of QBs have succeeded in the NFL with poor mechanics I.E. Bernie Kosar. Pryor is such an exceptional athlete that I don't think he can be counted out at the next level.as a QB. Comparing TP to Jamarcus Russell (Pryor is better right now than JR.) I also think that Tebow can play QB in the NFL, just look at some of the turds that have started games. These 2 may never be Hall of Famers but they have too much God given talent to not ever play in the NFL.
Apr 29, 2010 9:37am
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Apr 29, 2010 9:59 AM
Al Bundy wrote: We don't know about his ability to run routes. He is a great athlete, but his strides are so long it brings into question whether he could get off the line against a bump and run corner, and can he make quick cuts in his route running?
This is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of TP and WR.
0311sdp wrote: These 2 may never be Hall of Famers but they have too much God given talent to not ever play in the NFL.
I absolutely agree. However, in the NFL, you have to fit a postion. That is the key for guys like this to be successful. It's hard to know what will happen when they are playing positions that they may not necessarily fit for the NFL.
Apr 29, 2010 9:59am
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Apr 29, 2010 10:32 AM
WebFire wrote:
Al Bundy wrote: We don't know about his ability to run routes. He is a great athlete, but his strides are so long it brings into question whether he could get off the line against a bump and run corner, and can he make quick cuts in his route running?
This is the first thing that comes to mind when I think of TP and WR.
0311sdp wrote: These 2 may never be Hall of Famers but they have too much God given talent to not ever play in the NFL.
I absolutely agree. However, in the NFL, you have to fit a postion. That is the key for guys like this to be successful. It's hard to know what will happen when they are playing positions that they may not necessarily fit for the NFL.
I disagree with the 2nd statement. In the NFL, you don't have to fit a position at all in this current age with the way the offenses are now a days. If you're a superior athlete who has some pretty good skills, they'll find a spot for you on the roster and use you as they see fit. Look at guys like Josh Cribbs, Brad Smith, Pat White, Antwan Randle El, Julian Edleman, Arnaz Battle. All guys who had to be worked in at a new position and were still taken by teams based on their athleticism and potential, which Pryor has plenty of both.

It's widely known that Pryor is not going to play QB regularly at the next level. However, I do believe that he'll be in the league for quite some time and be pretty successful however he is used.
Apr 29, 2010 10:32am
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Apr 29, 2010 10:58 AM
It's widely known that Pryor is not going to play QB regularly at the next level.
By whom???

Pryor has two years to work on his delivery and his decision making. He can and will get better. Will that make him an NFL QB prospect? I don't know, but he has some other attributes that very few QB's have.

If the Vince Young experiment works for the Titans, Pryor's stock will rise in the yes of at least one GM. As Tebow often said, 'On;y ONE guy needs to like you."
Apr 29, 2010 10:58am
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Apr 29, 2010 11:14 AM
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Apr 29, 2010 11:31 AM
Prescott wrote:
It's widely known that Pryor is not going to play QB regularly at the next level.
By whom???

Pryor has two years to work on his delivery and his decision making. He can and will get better. Will that make him an NFL QB prospect? I don't know, but he has some other attributes that very few QB's have.

If the Vince Young experiment works for the Titans, Pryor's stock will rise in the yes of at least one GM. As Tebow often said, 'On;y ONE guy needs to like you."
Agreed. I was unaware of his position change as well. I think many may think he will change positions but I think Pryor has his heart set on being a QB, even if it may be to his detriment. If he struggles the next two years, however, things may change.
Apr 29, 2010 11:31am
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Apr 29, 2010 11:33 AM
devil1197 wrote: Tebow was drafted for pure publicity and sales
I would have thought this too if he had been drafted by Jacksonville. He wasn't. He was selected by a team with playoff potential who isn't anywhere near Florida that sells out all of there games. It was not for publicity and sales. A team like Denver would not waste a first round pick like that when they are trying to win a division and make the playoffs. If they were a bottom feeder struggling to sell tickets, maybe. But in Denver where he'll likely only see the field 10-15 plays a game, it's not like he's going to bring in a lot of new revenue.

Now, as for the original question: it's very hard to gauge. Tebow was drafted in the first round, but as far as I can tell, no one outside of Denver had him rated that high. So, if the question is whether or not Pryor will be drafted as high as Tebow I'd likely say no. If the question is will he be a better prospect, then possibly. I think it's very possible given his size and athletic ability that he will be rated as a early second round prospect by the time his career is done. We also need to remember that Pryor has two seasons left to improve his skills and draft stock. Right now, it's hard to say.
Apr 29, 2010 11:33am
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Apr 29, 2010 1:16 PM
charliehustle14 wrote:
I disagree with the 2nd statement. In the NFL, you don't have to fit a position at all in this current age with the way the offenses are now a days. If you're a superior athlete who has some pretty good skills, they'll find a spot for you on the roster and use you as they see fit. Look at guys like Josh Cribbs, Brad Smith, Pat White, Antwan Randle El, Julian Edleman, Arnaz Battle. All guys who had to be worked in at a new position and were still taken by teams based on their athleticism and potential, which Pryor has plenty of both.

It's widely known that Pryor is not going to play QB regularly at the next level. However, I do believe that he'll be in the league for quite some time and be pretty successful however he is used.
I know what you mean, and I don't totally disagree. But many of those have simply switched to a different position. I would say Josh Cribbs might be the best example of the point you are trying to make.

I would say Devin Hester is a good example. Great athlete. But where does he fit in? SPECIAL TEAMS DOESN'T COUNT, IMO. They tried to move him to WR to get him on the field and take advantage of his athleticism. But he is just OK.

Let me ask you this. If TP doesn't pan out at QB, and he tries WR and just isn't that good at it, what then? That is what I am trying to say. Just being a good athlete isn't enough. You have to have a set of skills to utilize effectively to be a good football player.

Let's be honest, you don't make an NFL team if you are not an athlete. But not every NFL player is great, or good for that matter.
Apr 29, 2010 1:16pm
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Apr 29, 2010 4:13 PM
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charliehustle14 wrote:
I disagree with the 2nd statement. In the NFL, you don't have to fit a position at all in this current age with the way the offenses are now a days. If you're a superior athlete who has some pretty good skills, they'll find a spot for you on the roster and use you as they see fit. Look at guys like Josh Cribbs, Brad Smith, Pat White, Antwan Randle El, Julian Edleman, Arnaz Battle. All guys who had to be worked in at a new position and were still taken by teams based on their athleticism and potential, which Pryor has plenty of both.

It's widely known that Pryor is not going to play QB regularly at the next level. However, I do believe that he'll be in the league for quite some time and be pretty successful however he is used.
I know what you mean, and I don't totally disagree. But many of those have simply switched to a different position. I would say Josh Cribbs might be the best example of the point you are trying to make.

I would say Devin Hester is a good example. Great athlete. But where does he fit in? SPECIAL TEAMS DOESN'T COUNT, IMO. They tried to move him to WR to get him on the field and take advantage of his athleticism. But he is just OK.

Let me ask you this. If TP doesn't pan out at QB, and he tries WR and just isn't that good at it, what then? That is what I am trying to say. Just being a good athlete isn't enough. You have to have a set of skills to utilize effectively to be a good football player.

Let's be honest, you don't make an NFL team if you are not an athlete. But not every NFL player is great, or good for that matter.
Well Pryor is simply switching a position as well. So I don't know what you're saying there. All those guys played QB in college and then switched to WR at the next level.

Pryor may not pan out at WR...but then again, he might. But if he struggles at first, I doubt some team will just up and cut him. The team will try to either use him in different ways...or just give him more time. Similiar to Brad Smith and Michael Robinson. Those two didn't do much at their new positions when they first started out, but their NFL teams kept them around. Both have turned out to be some solid role players at their new positions.

All I'm saying is that Pryor has a distinct advantage of making it at the next level, even if it's at a new position. That distinct advantage is both his size and athleticism (6'6, 4.4 speed, built like a house). Multiple teams are going to want him at as WR, even though he was a college QB. Pryor has all the physical tools and will get his chance with a pro team, it'll just be up to him to put in the necessary work to succeed at WR. And I think he will put that necessary work in.
Apr 29, 2010 4:13pm
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Apr 29, 2010 4:32 PM
Prescott wrote:
It's widely known that Pryor is not going to play QB regularly at the next level.
By whom???

Pryor has two years to work on his delivery and his decision making. He can and will get better. Will that make him an NFL QB prospect? I don't know, but he has some other attributes that very few QB's have.

If the Vince Young experiment works for the Titans, Pryor's stock will rise in the yes of at least one GM. As Tebow often said, 'On;y ONE guy needs to like you."
Believe me, I'm a huge Buckeye and Pryor fan. I want the kid to succeed, particularly at QB. However, the odds are going to be against him to play QB. Trust me, I hope he beats those odds.

Please don't use the VY comparison. At least not yet. VY is easily the most dominant college player that I've gotten to see in my lifetime and so far. Pryor hasn't shown that consistent dominance that VY exhibited week in and week out.
Apr 29, 2010 4:32pm
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Apr 29, 2010 6:59 PM
I'll ask again.

By whom is it known that Ptyor will not play QB regularly at the next level?
Please don't use the VY comparison.
I am not comparing Pryor's college career to Young's .I am pointing out that they are similar athletes and similar things were said about Young when he left college for the NFL.
Apr 29, 2010 6:59pm
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Apr 29, 2010 7:29 PM
Prescott wrote: I'll ask again.

By whom is it known that Ptyor will not play QB regularly at the next level?
Please don't use the VY comparison.
I am not comparing Pryor's college career to Young's .I am pointing out that they are similar athletes and similar things were said about Young when he left college for the NFL.
It's known by everyone, outside of OSU homers. He won't play QB regularly in the NFL. He'll probably be used in Wildcat packages and such, but he won't be any every down drop-back passer.

You'll hear this from me and from anyone who has watched Pryor:

His consistency is an issue. He doesn't have good enough throwing mechanics at this point. His footwork isn't very good. He locks on one reciever too much and telegraphs his passes. He doesn't do a good job of looking off cornerbacks. His decision making sucks, at times.

Is he still progressing? Yes. Is there time for him to improve all of this and be an NFL-ready QB? Yes, there's always a chance. But if you think the guy will be a legit QB at the next level, you're kidding yourself.
Apr 29, 2010 7:29pm
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Apr 29, 2010 7:36 PM
It's known by everyone, outside of OSU homers. He won't play QB regularly in the NFL. He'll probably be used in Wildcat packages and such, but he won't be any every down drop-back passer.
Who is everyone??? The kid has played two years of college football. IMO, it is a little early to pass judgment on him and any NFL draft expert who does so is a fool.He has two years of coaching, practice, and games left. ANY judgment made about is totally premature and based on an incomplete analysis.
But if you think the guy will be a legit QB at the next level, you're kidding yourself.
The only thing I think is that assessing a player's ability at the next level when he has two full years of college left is asinine
Apr 29, 2010 7:36pm
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Apr 29, 2010 10:47 PM
Prescott wrote:
Who is everyone??? The kid has played two years of college football. IMO, it is a little early to pass judgment on him and any NFL draft expert who does so is a fool.He has two years of coaching, practice, and games left. ANY judgment made about is totally premature and based on an incomplete analysis.
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