The backdrop plays a major role in being able to focus on a pitch. That is why they make it mandatory to have a green "batter's eye," although they all are not even close to being the same.

And how is travel in bball worse than baseball? The baseball season is twice as long.

And you can use the "both teams play with the same..." for any factor. That's obvious. NFL teams tend to build themselves around their climate. Therefore, they face an advantage when playing a team with a different climate later in the year. Hence Holmgren's comments after drafting Hardesty, saying he needed a big bruising back in the AFC North.

I would agree with you that the backdrops are different in the NBA, but to me, other sports have greater home field advantages.

Baseball teams also build their teams around parks. (ex. San Diego is a pitchers park and Texas is a hitters park)

dat dude wrote:
And how is travel in bball worse than baseball? The baseball season is twice as long.

LOL...you serious Clark?

In basketball, you can fly to Indianapolis, get off the plane and have a game 5 hours later. Then get back on the plane right after the game and fly to Houston to play another game the next day.

In baseball you fly to Boston and stay for a series of games. Then fly to LA and play another series of games.

This argument isn't even close, the NBA travel schedule is much harder than any other sport.

Serious question. How often do NBA teams get scheduled with a back-to-back on the road?

SQ_Crazies wrote:

dat dude wrote:
And how is travel in bball worse than baseball? The baseball season is twice as long.

LOL...you serious Clark?

In basketball, you can fly to Indianapolis, get off the plane and have a game 5 hours later. Then get back on the plane right after the game and fly to Houston to play another game the next day.

In baseball you fly to Boston and stay for a series of games. Then fly to LA and play another series of games.

This argument isn't even close, the NBA travel schedule is much harder than any other sport.

how often do teams play 3 straight days in the nba?

So you are giving up the rest of your argument?

Btw, baseball teams play around 28 games per month. That includes travel.

The Cavs played back-to-back away games 4 times all year. So the scenario you suggested happens 10% of the time.

No, I'm giving up on my entire argument because there is no point in arguing with you--clearly. And it's a pretty pointless argument anyways.

lol this is funny

For one basketball travel is not near as taxing as baseball or hockey for that matter. No team and I mean no team flies in to town on the day of the game (barring weather) and then plays 5 hours later. On a back to back, teams leave after the first game, fly to wherever they are going, sleep in the hotel, wake up and play a game that night. Not sure where you got landing in the city and playing 5 hours later from but that just doesn't happen often, if at all anymore.

The backdrops in NBA arenas are different, but the 3 point and foul line is the same distance in every arena, just like the pitchers mound and the bases are the same at every baseball stadium so the point you were trying to make is moot. Basketball players have enough muscle memory to be able to walk into any gym and shoot the ball. Baseball players have different surroundings at every stadium that range from weather, shadows, backdrops in center field, and different dimensions at every stadium. You see it every week where someone misplays a ball because they don't know the place they are in well and misjudge a distance. NBA players don't worry about that because everything is the same and sightlines to the basket are going to be very similar at most all arenas.

KnightXC1 wrote: For one basketball travel is not near as taxing as baseball or hockey for that matter. No team and I mean no team flies in to town on the day of the game (barring weather) and then plays 5 hours later. On a back to back, teams leave after the first game, fly to wherever they are going, sleep in the hotel, wake up and play a game that night. Not sure where you got landing in the city and playing 5 hours later from but that just doesn't happen often, if at all anymore.

The backdrops in NBA arenas are different, but the 3 point and foul line is the same distance in every arena, just like the pitchers mound and the bases are the same at every baseball stadium so the point you were trying to make is moot. Basketball players have enough muscle memory to be able to walk into any gym and shoot the ball. Baseball players have different surroundings at every stadium that range from weather, shadows, backdrops in center field, and different dimensions at every stadium. You see it every week where someone misplays a ball because they don't know the place they are in well and misjudge a distance. NBA players don't worry about that because everything is the same and sightlines to the basket are going to be very similar at most all arenas.

Took top 2 teams in each conference and checked to see how many times they played back to back away games. Took out the Lakers because they dont have 41 true road games. Technically they do but its in the same gym as their home games.

Cavs played back to back away games 4 times this year.
Dallas Mavericks played back to back away games 3 times this year(Excluding when they played b2b away games in LA this year).
Washington Capitals played back to back away games 3 times this year.
San Jose Sharks played back to back away games 6 times this year.

So maybe NBA travel is closer to NHL travel than some think.

The difference between the NBA travel and the baseball travel is simple. Baseball players play one of the most boring, non-competitive sports out there. Half of the game you are sitting on a bench chewing gum, and then you get up and stand and wait for someone to hit you a ball.

YAWN

HAHAHAHA once again SQ is an arrogant fool who won't admit he's wrong.

fiction wrote:
you're wrong about baseball. shadows, batter's eye, dome roofs/sky, lighting, playing surface, foul territory, field dimensions, ground rules, distance between home plate and backstop, all sorts of nooks and crannies.

SQ_Crazies wrote: One team plays 41 games and practices with the same backdrop. The other team might play 2 games in that gym in a year. Just like every other thread, you're not reading what is there and taking it for what it is. I'm not talking about the court.

I'm pretty sure what Fiction described would also be what you describe in an NBA arena as BACKDROP.

But no, since you're ALWAYS right, I guess two things that are the same thing relative to their sports are different because they have to be different in order for you to be right.

Why do you think most baseball stadiums have some sort of "hitter's eye" thing (mandated by the league) that is usually lined up somewhere behind the pitcher, BUT it's different in almost every stadium, whether in size or location (just off of center). It's for the home team to have an advantage.

lol

Holy shit, Kobe and Artest was hilarious.

And the second one, I dont know how some of those people didnt die lol.

sportswizuhrd wrote:
Took top 2 teams in each conference and checked to see how many times they played back to back away games. Took out the Lakers because they dont have 41 true road games. Technically they do but its in the same gym as their home games.

Cavs played back to back away games 4 times this year.
Dallas Mavericks played back to back away games 3 times this year(Excluding when they played b2b away games in LA this year).
Washington Capitals played back to back away games 3 times this year.
San Jose Sharks played back to back away games 6 times this year.

So maybe NBA travel is closer to NHL travel than some think.

NBA and NHL teams both play their fair share of back to back games, I won't argue that. I was pointing out that no team in the NBA flies into the city they are playing in on the same day as the game. The notion that an NBA team travels the same day and "plays 5 hours later" is foolish and incorrect.

lhslep134 wrote: HAHAHAHA once again SQ is an arrogant fool who won't admit he's wrong.

fiction wrote:
you're wrong about baseball. shadows, batter's eye, dome roofs/sky, lighting, playing surface, foul territory, field dimensions, ground rules, distance between home plate and backstop, all sorts of nooks and crannies.

SQ_Crazies wrote: One team plays 41 games and practices with the same backdrop. The other team might play 2 games in that gym in a year. Just like every other thread, you're not reading what is there and taking it for what it is. I'm not talking about the court.

I'm pretty sure what Fiction described would also be what you describe in an NBA arena as BACKDROP.

But no, since you're ALWAYS right, I guess two things that are the same thing relative to their sports are different because they have to be different in order for you to be right.

Why do you think most baseball stadiums have some sort of "hitter's eye" thing (mandated by the league) that is usually lined up somewhere behind the pitcher, BUT it's different in almost every stadium, whether in size or location (just off of center). It's for the home team to have an advantage.

Alright you stupid fuck.

In basketball, you look up at the backdrop every time you go to score a point. That, compared to how different others are and add in lighting changes and the like--and your depth perception is different. Like I said, this happens in every level of basketball, people shoot better in their own gym. I never once said that the backdrop in a baseball field doesn't have an effect. It's not my fault that you guys are fucking RETARDED and put words in my mouth or make assumptions like a little fairy fucking douche bag. But you're right, something that is 400 feet in the distance has without a doubt more impact than something 50-100 feet. The pitcher is less than 100 feet from you. Most stadiums have walls taller than the pitcher when he's on the mound. If you're looking up into the upperdeck when you're at the plate, no fucking wonder you can't pick up the ball.