Cleveland Browns select Colt McCoy at 85th overall

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Apr 23, 2010 11:39 PM
BCSbunk wrote: Colt McCoy is a value pick in the 3rd round. He will sit the bench and learn, look for spot play.

Wynn will be the back up should Delhomme go down. No need to rush Colt he knows the WC offense so this is a good fit.
Who is Wynn? You mean Wallace I assume?
Apr 23, 2010 11:39pm
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Apr 23, 2010 11:44 PM
Spergin Wynn? Haha
Apr 23, 2010 11:44pm
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Apr 23, 2010 11:58 PM
Writerbuckeye wrote: Gibby thinks a mid major QB who has never played under center is a better NFL prospect than a guy who is the winningest QB at a major college in NCAA history -- and yet he wonders why people on here consider him a total doofus when it comes to evaluating talent?

Then throw in the Tebow knob slobbering 24/7 and it's like the most toxic brew of homerism and willful ignorance we've seen since he posted something about Obama and healthcare reform. :)

Seriously, dude, you are damn near delusional with your talent evaluation of some players on here.

Ouch...that one hurt.
Apr 23, 2010 11:58pm
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Apr 24, 2010 12:09 AM
BR1986FB wrote:
BCSbunk wrote: Colt McCoy is a value pick in the 3rd round. He will sit the bench and learn, look for spot play.

Wynn will be the back up should Delhomme go down. No need to rush Colt he knows the WC offense so this is a good fit.
Who is Wynn? You mean Wallace I assume?
Yeah a brain fart LOL.
Apr 24, 2010 12:09am
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Apr 24, 2010 12:13 AM
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gibby08 wrote: Really?? Changing someones words?? How old are you,12??
I can leg press more than anyone on this website.
Whatever do you mean?
Apr 24, 2010 12:13am
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Apr 24, 2010 12:49 AM
so who all is left on the draft board that CLE will/possibly target? If they didnt get Hardesty I was thinking they would maybe go after Blount in the later rounds....but no need to now. And I doubt Homgren's "speedy receiver" will be available by the time CLE is up in the 5th round, Jacoby Ford.
Apr 24, 2010 12:49am
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Apr 24, 2010 1:49 AM
Hey Gibby, STFU you Tebow CS.

Great value selection by the Browns.
Apr 24, 2010 1:49am
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Apr 24, 2010 1:52 AM
big_hits24 wrote: so who all is left on the draft board that CLE will/possibly target? If they didnt get Hardesty I was thinking they would maybe go after Blount in the later rounds....but no need to now. And I doubt Homgren's "speedy receiver" will be available by the time CLE is up in the 5th round, Jacoby Ford.
I think that's why they traded into the 2nd to get the RB imo. Gerhart and Tate went quickly in the 2nd round (above the projections of many), so Cleveland needed to hop on a RB quickly.

OLB or WR would be on my wish list. Trading into the 4th round would be obvious but I doubt that happens.

But picking up Colt in the 3rd roung along with a CB/S/RB, I cannot complain at all.
Apr 24, 2010 1:52am
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Apr 24, 2010 3:10 AM
The Browns got the best potential QB in the draft... I am actually amazed that they got this one right. Things could be looking up for Cleveland... IF they don't ruin him.
Apr 24, 2010 3:10am
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Apr 24, 2010 6:44 AM
love the pick,and I'm REALLY liking Holmgren in his role here--GO BROWNIES !!!
Apr 24, 2010 6:44am
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Apr 24, 2010 7:07 AM
Unbelievable that we landed him this far down. This regime will go down as one of the the smartest or luckiest in Browns history....or both.

If they can somehow land a speedy WR or a pass rushing OL today, it will be icing on the cake.
Apr 24, 2010 7:07am
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Apr 24, 2010 8:37 AM
The McCoy pick saved Holmgren's ass. Conservative Browns fans were not happy picking 2 reaches as the top 2 picks. I cheered up only after the McCoy pick. But let's remember, Quinn had just as good of numbers as McCoy did in college. Also, other than Nebraska (McCoy struggled big time), the big 12 as a conference didn't play much defense.
Apr 24, 2010 8:37am
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Apr 24, 2010 9:08 AM
College numbers are a very small factor in the equation. Strictly a talent evaluation at this point. Therefore, I'm not the least big concerned about Big 12 defenses.
Apr 24, 2010 9:08am
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Apr 24, 2010 9:10 AM
Is it me, or did McCoy look disappointed when they showed him on ESPN celebrating with his family?
Apr 24, 2010 9:10am
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Apr 24, 2010 9:11 AM
I didn't see it, but he slipped alot farther than most thought, so it is possible.
Apr 24, 2010 9:11am
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Apr 24, 2010 10:01 AM
To me he looked relieved not disappointed. JMO
Apr 24, 2010 10:01am
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Apr 24, 2010 12:39 PM
77Legend wrote: Is it me, or did McCoy look disappointed when they showed him on ESPN celebrating with his family?
I think he WAS disappointed that he went so low. I think he might have also been frustrated in thinking that he was going to be picked by Cleveland with an earlier pick (lost money). I think he was also relieved.

Another thing, NRTU, I wish people would quit saying "I love what Holmgren is doing." Holmgren is nothing more than a cheerleader here. Heckert is making the picks along with Mangini's input. Holmgren breaks all tie breakers.
Apr 24, 2010 12:39pm
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Apr 24, 2010 2:11 PM
BR1986FB wrote: Another thing, NRTU, I wish people would quit saying "I love what Holmgren is doing." Holmgren is nothing more than a cheerleader here. Heckert is making the picks along with Mangini's input. Holmgren breaks all tie breakers.
You don't really believe that do you? They are not going to pay someone $10 million a year for him to not even make the draft decisions. Sure the others have input, but it's all on Holmgren.
Apr 24, 2010 2:11pm
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Apr 24, 2010 2:20 PM
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BR1986FB wrote: Another thing, NRTU, I wish people would quit saying "I love what Holmgren is doing." Holmgren is nothing more than a cheerleader here. Heckert is making the picks along with Mangini's input. Holmgren breaks all tie breakers.
You don't really believe that do you? They are not going to pay someone $10 million a year for him to not even make the draft decisions. Sure the others have input, but it's all on Holmgren.
I believe it 100%
Apr 24, 2010 2:20pm
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Apr 24, 2010 7:59 PM
Sitting, waiting, watching is the right strategy for the Browns' Colt McCoy in 2010:
By Terry Pluto, The Plain Dealer
April 24, 2010, 7:21PM

BEREA, Ohio -- Mike Holmgren hates quarterback controversies. Absolutely loathes them. You have a feeling that the Browns president would rather guzzle down a bucket of rusty bolts than spend all of training camp trying to pick a quarterback.

That's why Holmgren was wise to immediately say that there are no plans for Colt McCoy to play this season. Yes, he's a big-name college player. But the Texas product also is a third-round pick who dropped all the way to No. 85, where the Browns were surprised and pleased to call his name.

His drop in the draft underlines how several teams believe McCoy won't walk into training camp NFL ready, and fans should accept that fact. Holmgren pushed for the Browns to take McCoy and he likes quarterbacks who complete 70 percent of their passes in four years of college.

But McCoy needs to pay his dues, not a bad thing for a young man who was one of the greatest high-school quarterbacks in Texas history, then shattered passing records for the Longhorns.

He is a Lone Star state legend. With the Browns, he'll be a rookie with a baseball cap and a clipboard on Sundays. He will run the opponents' offense during some practices. He will sit in meetings and learn from veterans Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace.

This is the right way to break in a quarterback.

Holmgren is not coaching the team. But knows a good leader gives direction and clarity to those in his organization. That began with the decision to start over at quarterback, where Holmgren feared a return of Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn would be a rerun of the last two seasons where the Browns never could settle on a quarterback.

You can argue Quinn should have been kept and handed the job. But understand that Eric Mangini handed tapes of Quinn and Anderson to Holmgren and new General Manager Tom Heckert. He didn't give them an opinion, just asked them to study the tapes and then sit down and talk about it.

All three men came to the same conclusion – start over at quarterback. Quinn and Anderson both needed a fresh start with another team.

So they signed veteran Delhomme, and quickly designated him as the starter. At 35 and coming off a dreadful season where he threw only eight touchdowns to 18 interceptions for a strong running team in Carolina, it's hard to know if Delhomme has much left in the tank. But his leadership skills and character are tremendous. The Browns believe if anyone in his situation can bounce back, Delhomme will.

If Delhomme falters or is injured, Wallace is very capable of finishing the season. A backup under Holmgren in Seattle, Wallace is 29. For his career, he has thrown 25 touchdowns compared to 14 interceptions, completing 60 percent of his passes.

The Browns seem to be assembling a power-running team. Wallace is a mobile quarterback who makes few turnovers, meaning he fits the game plan.

Some Browns fans have compared McCoy to Brian Sipe. You can only hope that's true. But keep in mind that Sipe was a 13th round draft pick in 1972. He never appeared in a game the next two seasons. He didn't become a starter until 1975.

Not that you'd want McCoy to wait that long. But sitting, watching and learning certainly didn't hurt Sipe -- and it won't be a negative for McCoy, either.

http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/blog/index.ssf/2010/04/sitting_waiting_watching_is_th.html
Apr 24, 2010 7:59pm
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Apr 24, 2010 8:06 PM
So the Browns are paying Holmgren 10 million a year to be a cheerleader?

Doubt it, he absolutely had a big say in the draft.
Apr 24, 2010 8:06pm
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Apr 24, 2010 8:13 PM
sleeper wrote: So the Browns are paying Holmgren 10 million a year to be a cheerleader?

Doubt it, he absolutely had a big say in the draft.
He had absolutely everything to say in the draft. That's why they failed. All you Clown fans were wetting yourself when he was hired, but he'll bury the Clowns the same way he ruined the Seahawks. Mark my word.
Apr 24, 2010 8:13pm
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Apr 24, 2010 8:17 PM
Al Capone wrote: All you Clown fans were wetting yourself when he was hired, but he'll bury the Clowns the same way he ruined the Seahawks. Mark my word.
Just like Ben not being able to keep his dick in his pants or his mouth off a bottle of booze will ruin the Steelers?
Apr 24, 2010 8:17pm
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Apr 24, 2010 8:48 PM
Al Capone wrote: He had absolutely everything to say in the draft. That's why they failed. All you Clown fans were wetting yourself when he was hired, but he'll bury the Clowns the same way he ruined the Seahawks. Mark my word.
Damn dude..seriously...doesn't that shit EVER get old? How many times can you possibly say the same shit over and over? If you think the Browns failed in the draft..you obviously know nothing about football. Give it the fuck up already.
Apr 24, 2010 8:48pm
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Apr 24, 2010 9:05 PM
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Al Capone wrote: He had absolutely everything to say in the draft. That's why they failed. All you Clown fans were wetting yourself when he was hired, but he'll bury the Clowns the same way he ruined the Seahawks. Mark my word.
Damn dude..seriously...doesn't that shit EVER get old? How many times can you possibly say the same shit over and over? If you think the Browns failed in the draft..you obviously know nothing about football. Give it the fuck up already.
He obviously didn't pay much attention to THEIR draft. Oh, let's draft an outside linebacker, rinse, repeat....
Apr 24, 2010 9:05pm