Ohio Chatter
Ohio Chatter

Forums

All Threads Serious Business Sports Politics Archive Pick 'ems
Log In Create Account

Official NFL Draft Discussion

Home ▸ Archive ▸ Pro Sports ▸ Official NFL Draft Discussion
RedBlackAttack's avatar

RedBlackAttack

The Paterfamilias

133 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:09 PM
IggyPride00 wrote: McCoy would have been there at 71, the pick the Browns traded for the running back. I hope he doesn't end up being a decent QB because that would have been some nice value at this point in the draft.
He might still be there at our next pick... And we may pass on him again. One thing has been crystal clear through the first three rounds... While this is considered a very deep class in virtually all other positions, it is absolutely not a good draft for QBs.

I don't want to take a quarterback just because it seems like we 'should' take one. If our future franchise QB is not in this draft, let's address the other needs that we have (which are plenty).
Apr 23, 2010 9:09pm
Sykotyk's avatar

Sykotyk

Senior Member

1,155 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:15 PM
RedBlackAttack wrote:
IggyPride00 wrote: McCoy would have been there at 71, the pick the Browns traded for the running back. I hope he doesn't end up being a decent QB because that would have been some nice value at this point in the draft.
He might still be there at our next pick... And we may pass on him again. One thing has been crystal clear through the first three rounds... While this is considered a very deep class in virtually all other positions, it is absolutely not a good draft for QBs.

I don't want to take a quarterback just because it seems like we 'should' take one. If our future franchise QB is not in this draft, let's address the other needs that we have (which are plenty).
True. But at a certain point, the value of McCoy would match the pick in hand. If the Browns truly are doing 'best available' then that means they think McCoy is a really crappy pro QB.

Which surprised me.

Oh well. We traded up for a RB that I didn't think we'd fill in by giving up a third and two fifths. Right now, no qualms with MH or Heckert. i'll let the draft and season play out before i start laying into them on their first go-round.
Apr 23, 2010 9:15pm
mucalum49's avatar

mucalum49

Senior Member

1,639 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:17 PM
Whats the deal with Everson Griffen? I heard he might take a play or two off but he is a first round talent supposedly
Apr 23, 2010 9:17pm
RedBlackAttack's avatar

RedBlackAttack

The Paterfamilias

133 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:22 PM
Sykotyk wrote:
RedBlackAttack wrote:
IggyPride00 wrote: McCoy would have been there at 71, the pick the Browns traded for the running back. I hope he doesn't end up being a decent QB because that would have been some nice value at this point in the draft.
He might still be there at our next pick... And we may pass on him again. One thing has been crystal clear through the first three rounds... While this is considered a very deep class in virtually all other positions, it is absolutely not a good draft for QBs.

I don't want to take a quarterback just because it seems like we 'should' take one. If our future franchise QB is not in this draft, let's address the other needs that we have (which are plenty).
True. But at a certain point, the value of McCoy would match the pick in hand. If the Browns truly are doing 'best available' then that means they think McCoy is a really crappy pro QB.

Which surprised me.

Oh well. We traded up for a RB that I didn't think we'd fill in by giving up a third and two fifths. Right now, no qualms with MH or Heckert. i'll let the draft and season play out before i start laying into them on their first go-round.
Agreed. It is pretty obvious that taking McCoy with the pick we traded up for would have been a terrible decision, because he is still out there. We almost certainly wouldn't have gotten Hardesty with our original 3rd round pick, so things have gone pretty much exactly how Heckert probably envisioned.

It looks like we will have another shot at McCoy. If Heckert/Holmgren don't take him with our next pick, then I don't want anything to do with him because it will be obvious that there are serious issues, there.
Apr 23, 2010 9:22pm
IggyPride00's avatar

IggyPride00

Senior Member

6,482 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:22 PM
If he is there again when the Browns draft they should just take him because at this point the odds of getting a starting player at any position are iffy, and McCoy is too much of a value to pass on at this point considering his skills are actually a good fit for what the Browns want to do offensively in a semi-west coast offense. Not to mention the fans want it, which would buy the team some good will which is always needed.
Apr 23, 2010 9:22pm
BigAppleBuckeye's avatar

BigAppleBuckeye

Senior Member

2,935 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:23 PM
I have to assume that freak injury to McCoy in the BCS title game has really hurt his stock? I think the kid can play, someone is going to get a steal with McCoy in the 3rd round, the guy is a winner.
Apr 23, 2010 9:23pm
Mulva's avatar

Mulva

Senior Member

13,650 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:24 PM
KR1245 wrote: How do you guys feel about Everson Griffen? I'm surprised that hes still available
Workout warrior, but doesn't live up to it on game days.
Apr 23, 2010 9:24pm
imex99's avatar

imex99

Senior Member

4,927 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:26 PM
I'm guessing McCoy to Da BROWNS...
Apr 23, 2010 9:26pm
R

rydawg5

Senior Member

2,639 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:26 PM
We are at pick #86 in a DEEP draft. To say that a pick at any position is iffy is dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb... or ignorant? I'm leaning towards stupid for the right word. Judges ruling??? "Retarded" Ahh yes, that was a retarded assumption..
Apr 23, 2010 9:26pm
P

pinstriper

Senior Member

225 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:28 PM
RedBlackAttack wrote:
I don't want to take a quarterback just because it seems like we 'should' take one. If our future franchise QB is not in this draft, let's address the other needs that we have (which are plenty).
This. Browns will be near the top of the draft next year and that will be the time to take a QB.
Apr 23, 2010 9:28pm
R

rydawg5

Senior Member

2,639 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:29 PM
Bengals need to start pickin more bad character guys. Lagarret Blount next?
Apr 23, 2010 9:29pm
Sykotyk's avatar

Sykotyk

Senior Member

1,155 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:29 PM
We'll find out in two picks. If the Browns don't take him then, there's obviously issues and McCoy is damaged goods.

Worst time for a commercial.

What was that about trading up? NFL.com shows the bengals picking a WR. Where was the trade-up?
Apr 23, 2010 9:29pm
R

rydawg5

Senior Member

2,639 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:29 PM
Wow, nice pick up Shipley (helluva draft) so far for the bengals.
Apr 23, 2010 9:29pm
ts1227's avatar

ts1227

Senior Member

12,319 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:30 PM
Sykotyk wrote: We'll find out in two picks. If the Browns don't take him then, there's obviously issues and McCoy is damaged goods.

Edit.

We just traded up. Worst time for a commercial.
No, that's a scheduled pick.
Apr 23, 2010 9:30pm
Mulva's avatar

Mulva

Senior Member

13,650 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:31 PM
I would like Eric Decker with one of these 2 picks, even though I know Holmgren wants a speed guy at receiver.
Apr 23, 2010 9:31pm
Sykotyk's avatar

Sykotyk

Senior Member

1,155 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:31 PM
Damn, for a second I thought they were saying we traded with the Bengals to move up one spot. I was a little concerned with that.
Apr 23, 2010 9:31pm
R

rydawg5

Senior Member

2,639 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:32 PM
Mulva wrote: I would like Eric Decker with one of these 2 picks, even though I know Holmgren wants a speed guy at receiver.
eh.. not a fan
Apr 23, 2010 9:32pm
ts1227's avatar

ts1227

Senior Member

12,319 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:32 PM
Schefter and Mort are saying McCoy
Apr 23, 2010 9:32pm
KR1245's avatar

KR1245

Senior Member

4,317 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:33 PM
This McCoy?
Apr 23, 2010 9:33pm
SQ_Crazies's avatar

SQ_Crazies

The Godfather

7,977 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:33 PM
LOL obvious.
Apr 23, 2010 9:33pm
R

rydawg5

Senior Member

2,639 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:33 PM
haha Colt Mccoy!
Apr 23, 2010 9:33pm
KR1245's avatar

KR1245

Senior Member

4,317 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:33 PM
Good value this late in the draft
Apr 23, 2010 9:33pm
SQ_Crazies's avatar

SQ_Crazies

The Godfather

7,977 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:34 PM
KR1245 wrote: Good value this late in the draft
Exceptional value IMO.
Apr 23, 2010 9:34pm
imex99's avatar

imex99

Senior Member

4,927 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:34 PM
2nd that ^^
Apr 23, 2010 9:34pm
newarkcatholicfan's avatar

newarkcatholicfan

Senior Member

3,199 posts
Apr 23, 2010 9:35 PM
Good pick Cleveland.
Apr 23, 2010 9:35pm