TWO "Accusations", of a sexual nature , one of which was filed a year after the fact, and ZERO convictions of any crime. I will concede he had a motorcycle accident, but I don't think that is grounds for a 6 game suspension.2 accusations of rape.
STFU dude...Big Ben raped a bitch..get over itPrescott wrote:TWO "Accusations", of a sexual nature , one of which was filed a year after the fact, and ZERO convictions of any crime. I will concede he had a motorcycle accident, but I don't think that is grounds for a 6 game suspension.2 accusations of rape.
If he committed a crime, prosecute him and send him to jail. If you can't prove he committed a crime then you lose.
I posted this on the other thread you started, but it belongs here, too.Prescott wrote:TWO "Accusations", of a sexual nature , one of which was filed a year after the fact, and ZERO convictions of any crime. I will concede he had a motorcycle accident, but I don't think that is grounds for a 6 game suspension.2 accusations of rape.
If he committed a crime, prosecute him and send him to jail. If you can't prove he committed a crime then you lose.
He raped no one.SportsAndLady wrote:STFU dude...Big Ben raped a bitch..get over itPrescott wrote:TWO "Accusations", of a sexual nature , one of which was filed a year after the fact, and ZERO convictions of any crime. I will concede he had a motorcycle accident, but I don't think that is grounds for a 6 game suspension.2 accusations of rape.
If he committed a crime, prosecute him and send him to jail. If you can't prove he committed a crime then you lose.
Then he should be in jail. If he committed a crime, convict him and send him to jail.STFU dude...Big Ben raped a bitch..get over it
I agree.According to the CBA Goodell can do whatever he thinks is fair.Ben has ZIP to stand on here. He put himself in this because of repeated bad behavior, and the league is perfectly within its rights to punish him however they see fit.
I get the Schlicter reference, but what behavior did Jeff George have that you find questionable?Ben...meet Jeff George.
That's essentially the truth. There are a lot of things that AREN'T illegal that could get me fired from my place. Like, if I called my female supervisor a "class A bitch" (hypothetically...she's not in reality), I'd probably be told to GTFO. And if I started to get "creepy-obsessive" with a female co-worker, I'd also likely get removed.Writerbuckeye wrote:I posted this on the other thread you started, but it belongs here, too.Prescott wrote:TWO "Accusations", of a sexual nature , one of which was filed a year after the fact, and ZERO convictions of any crime. I will concede he had a motorcycle accident, but I don't think that is grounds for a 6 game suspension.2 accusations of rape.
If he committed a crime, prosecute him and send him to jail. If you can't prove he committed a crime then you lose.
Funny thing about having a contract that binds you to the RULES of the league you're in -- you actually have to abide by it.
And it's a contract and they are league rules, so no rule of LAW is necessary. They can decide punishment based on much lesser standards and they are perfectly within their legal rights to do so.
It comes with the territory when you sign multi million dollar contracts to play in one of the world's most exclusive leagues.
Don't like the system?
Don't take the paycheck.
Ben has ZIP to stand on here. He put himself in this because of repeated bad behavior, and the league is perfectly within its rights to punish him however they see fit.
It might be a good idea for Ben to (1) dry up if he's a drunk (which I think he is) and/or (2) get counseling on what proper behavior is when you interact with females.
Running around with your dick outside your pants is not a good idea, Ben, just in case you didn't know already.
Just like OJ?Prescott wrote:Then he should be in jail. If he committed a crime, convict him and send him to jail.
I have no problem with this and I completely understand. The problem is that is open to interpretation and I don't agree with Goodell's heavy-handed justice when compared to other rulings he has handed down.if you sign an NFL contract, you implicitely agree to...not only legally responsible behavior...but behavior the exemplifies a league that is controlled by laws that are exempt and separate from civil jurisdiction. The NFL is a private and investor-controlled entity. If you do not realize this, you do not understand professional sports. His behavior is held to a higher standard than the average citizen, and deservedly so, in light of his potential compensation.
Even if the accuser made some poor decisions, how does the excuse Ben's behavior? You don't have a problem with Ben hiring security to hold back the girl's friends so that he could take advantage of her?Prescott wrote:I have no problem with this and I completely understand. The problem is that is open to interpretation and I don't agree with Goodell's heavy-handed justice when compared to other rulings he has handed down.if you sign an NFL contract, you implicitely agree to...not only legally responsible behavior...but behavior the exemplifies a league that is controlled by laws that are exempt and separate from civil jurisdiction. The NFL is a private and investor-controlled entity. If you do not realize this, you do not understand professional sports. His behavior is held to a higher standard than the average citizen, and deservedly so, in light of his potential compensation.
For argument's sake, let's say that Roethlisberger was set up and did nothing wrong. What would his remedy be when one guy is the judge, the jury, and the executioner?
I think race had something to do with the severity of the suspension and I also think Roethlisberger's high profile did as well. If Roethlisberger was a black man or not the face of a franchise the suspension would have been less severe.
I think Roethlisberger's behavior, as reported by the media, was reprehensible. Unfortunately, I don't know what happened in Georgia. (I did read the witness statements and I listened very closely to the DA's press conference) Two people know exactly what happened and one of them, the accuser, admitted to being intoxicated at the time. She also knew she was underage , yet she was drinking alcohol.
I am reasonably sure that Roethlisberger's behavior was not admirable. I am also reasonably sure that the accuser, who walked around in public with a "DTF" label on her and chose to drink when she knew she was underage, is guilty of less than admirable behavior as well.
Nothing excuses bad behavior by anyone, including Roethlisberger. Her behavior can be a reflection of her character and might put in question the veracity of her accusation.Even if the accuser made some poor decisions, how does the excuse Ben's behavior? You don't have a problem with Ben hiring security to hold back the girl's friends so that he could take advantage of her?
Don't think so. I don't think he will be traded but that's only because they won't get the value they want for him. I don't see anyone giving up more than a 2nd for him, which the Steelers wouldn't take. The "scare tactics" stuff is a bunch of conspiracy theory bunk. I'd think the Rooney's have a little more class than that.thavoice wrote:
This talk of the steelers listening, of initiating calls is all a scare tactic to the current and futre players that even the franchise QB, one of the faces of the NFL, and still under contract for awhile can e traded. They wont trade him, and after the draft expect them to squash any rumors. They want the perception that he could be traded ut know they wont.
LJ wrote: I personally don't care about the douchebag shit he has done, I think the Steelers should just let him serve his suspension then move on WITH HIM. How many years did it take to find a franchise QB after Bradshaw retired?(21 years and 10 players) And you want to dump one because he is a perv who hasn't been charged with a crime? Seriously, fuck the "image".
