devil1197 wrote:First off, the evidence coming out now is just being released. It had been collected awhile ago but during the investigation that evidence is kept private. So these are new allegations or comments, just released information.

Also, there are many cases of wrongdoing that are not pursued. Some factors are lack of physical evidence. Its hard to prove guilt when its a he/she said type of case, doesn't mean that the events didn't take place though. Also, some victims do not want to go through the situation all over again during the trial especially when dealing with a high profile defendant.

No they're not. There's no new allegations or comments, the cops and GBI had this info the entire time, you even mention that in your post.:huh:

Gblock wrote:

rock_knutne wrote:

BR1986FB wrote: One thing I will say, old Florio sure is using Roethlisberger as a pinata. Every other story on his site is about Ben.

Florio is a hack and his deceptive style is why people hit his site.

I'll remind all of you one more time, all these statements you keep reading from the police report are not seen as actual facts.

ewok, I'm with you on the alleged victim........one would think she would be screaming and struggling to a get away from him if she was raped. None of that is evident.

Also, I find it amazing that this girl can remember all these details the day after, she was totally blasted that night.......anyone see her handwriting on the written statements she provided? Check out this link, pages 1 and 2 are from the next day, pages 3 and 4 are from the night of the alleged incident, you tell me if there isn't a big difference:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0415101roethlisberger1.html#theLink

wow she mustve been hammered that handwriting is jacked up compared to the next day.

Funny how the media doesn't run with that info. They know they can't sell papers and get site hits with it.

rock_knutne wrote:

devil1197 wrote:First off, the evidence coming out now is just being released. It had been collected awhile ago but during the investigation that evidence is kept private. So these are new allegations or comments, just released information.

Also, there are many cases of wrongdoing that are not pursued. Some factors are lack of physical evidence. Its hard to prove guilt when its a he/she said type of case, doesn't mean that the events didn't take place though. Also, some victims do not want to go through the situation all over again during the trial especially when dealing with a high profile defendant.

No they're not. There's no new allegations or comments, the cops and GBI had this info the entire time, you even mention that in your post.:huh:

I forgot the not lol.

It comes down to this. Ben may or may not have committed a crime. Its almost pointless to go to trial against him with little to no physical evidence. He said she said cases never turn out well especially when that he is an celebrity. Doesn't mean he didn't commit the crime, but we'll see how much he settles with her out of civil court.

Ben will be suspended and he should for his careless actions.

rock_knutne wrote:

devil1197 wrote:First off, the evidence coming out now is just being released. It had been collected awhile ago but during the investigation that evidence is kept private. So these are new allegations or comments, just released information.

Also, there are many cases of wrongdoing that are not pursued. Some factors are lack of physical evidence. Its hard to prove guilt when its a he/she said type of case, doesn't mean that the events didn't take place though. Also, some victims do not want to go through the situation all over again during the trial especially when dealing with a high profile defendant.

No they're not. There's no new allegations or comments, the cops and GBI had this info the entire time, you even mention that in your post.:huh:

You couldn't comprehend that he just forgot to put "not" in there?

This was already investigated and it was determined there wasn't enough physical evidence to prove rape beyond a reasonable doubt.

It's not even he said/she said, it's just she said and she was plastered.

SportsAndLady wrote:

rock_knutne wrote:

devil1197 wrote:First off, the evidence coming out now is just being released. It had been collected awhile ago but during the investigation that evidence is kept private. So these are new allegations or comments, just released information.

Also, there are many cases of wrongdoing that are not pursued. Some factors are lack of physical evidence. Its hard to prove guilt when its a he/she said type of case, doesn't mean that the events didn't take place though. Also, some victims do not want to go through the situation all over again during the trial especially when dealing with a high profile defendant.

No they're not. There's no new allegations or comments, the cops and GBI had this info the entire time, you even mention that in your post.:huh:

You couldn't comprehend that he just forgot to put "not" in there?

Could you?:rolleyes: I understand he made a typo and said so but that's a very key word to leave out, don't you think? I know, I know, you can read minds.

Non wrote: This was already investigated and it was determined there wasn't enough physical evidence to prove rape beyond a reasonable doubt.

It's not even he said/she said, it's just she said and she was plastered.

That's BS.

It is a classic case of he/she said.

Of course it wouldn't be he/she said case if there was ample amount of PE. Thats the main reason why these cases arise and are not sent to a jury/bench trial.

It's still mind boggling to me. I just don't understand how you can just decide not to pursue the case anymore.

devil1197 wrote:

Non wrote: This was already investigated and it was determined there wasn't enough physical evidence to prove rape beyond a reasonable doubt.

It's not even he said/she said, it's just she said and she was plastered.

That's BS.

It is a classic case of he/she said.

Of course it wouldn't be he/she said case if there was ample amount of PE. Thats the main reason why these cases arise and are not sent to a jury/bench trial.

How's it BS? Ben did not talk to the authorities, well with in his rights.

It is he/she said, I was just putting a colorful spin on it. Ben hasn't been interviewed about it other than the night, I don't believe. Not in as much detail.

Automatik wrote: It's still mind boggling to me. I just don't understand how you can just decide not to pursue the case anymore.

Its actually not that uncommon in sexually oriented cases.

Some victims would rather forget and move on.

Or some realize they have nothing and move on?

Mostly what the public is getting the past few days is from the girls' perspective and they were barhopping all night and intoxicated. And girls that age are certainly capable of making the story up, adding drama to it, after they sober up and try to piece it together.

rock_knutne wrote:

SportsAndLady wrote:

rock_knutne wrote:

devil1197 wrote:First off, the evidence coming out now is just being released. It had been collected awhile ago but during the investigation that evidence is kept private. So these are new allegations or comments, just released information.

Also, there are many cases of wrongdoing that are not pursued. Some factors are lack of physical evidence. Its hard to prove guilt when its a he/she said type of case, doesn't mean that the events didn't take place though. Also, some victims do not want to go through the situation all over again during the trial especially when dealing with a high profile defendant.

No they're not. There's no new allegations or comments, the cops and GBI had this info the entire time, you even mention that in your post.:huh:

You couldn't comprehend that he just forgot to put "not" in there?

Could you?:rolleyes: I understand he made a typo and said so but that's a very key word to leave out, don't you think? I know, I know, you can read minds.

It's called reading his long ass post and putting two and two together that obviously he meant not.

SportsAndLady wrote:

rock_knutne wrote:

SportsAndLady wrote:

rock_knutne wrote:

devil1197 wrote:First off, the evidence coming out now is just being released. It had been collected awhile ago but during the investigation that evidence is kept private. So these are new allegations or comments, just released information.

Also, there are many cases of wrongdoing that are not pursued. Some factors are lack of physical evidence. Its hard to prove guilt when its a he/she said type of case, doesn't mean that the events didn't take place though. Also, some victims do not want to go through the situation all over again during the trial especially when dealing with a high profile defendant.

No they're not. There's no new allegations or comments, the cops and GBI had this info the entire time, you even mention that in your post.:huh:

You couldn't comprehend that he just forgot to put "not" in there?

Could you?:rolleyes: I understand he made a typo and said so but that's a very key word to leave out, don't you think? I know, I know, you can read minds.

It's called reading his long ass post and putting two and two together that obviously he meant not.

Who cares?

devil1197 wrote:

Automatik wrote: It's still mind boggling to me. I just don't understand how you can just decide not to pursue the case anymore.

Its actually not that uncommon in sexually oriented cases.

Some victims would rather forget and move on.

or she was just embarassed that she banged a guy in a bathroom at a bar when she was really drunk and tried to save face. Like I posted a few pages ago, I knew a guy who had the exact same allegations brought against him (except it was in a frat house bathroom not a bar). Her side of the story was eerily similar to this one. Right before his trial, she confided in a friend that "I just couldn't let people know that I actually had sex with HIM, in a fucking bathroom, i had to come up with something'. The friend went to the DA and the case was dropped after they got the confession out of the girl.

rock_knutne wrote:

SportsAndLady wrote:

rock_knutne wrote:

devil1197 wrote:First off, the evidence coming out now is just being released. It had been collected awhile ago but during the investigation that evidence is kept private. So these are new allegations or comments, just released information.

Also, there are many cases of wrongdoing that are not pursued. Some factors are lack of physical evidence. Its hard to prove guilt when its a he/she said type of case, doesn't mean that the events didn't take place though. Also, some victims do not want to go through the situation all over again during the trial especially when dealing with a high profile defendant.

No they're not. There's no new allegations or comments, the cops and GBI had this info the entire time, you even mention that in your post.:huh:

You couldn't comprehend that he just forgot to put "not" in there?

Could you?:rolleyes: I understand he made a typo and said so but that's a very key word to leave out, don't you think? I know, I know, you can read minds.

You're a fucking idiot. It's obvious from the rest of that post that he simply forgit to write not, but you in all your supposed intelligence had to point it out and act like you were telling us something profound....haha

Its funny to see some people blame the girl for getting so drunk that she could be taken advantage of. Guess what, a girl should be able to blackout buttass naked in the middle of mens rr and not have anyone touch her. what kind of fucking pig lays hands on a girl near the point of blacking out!???!?! If that's the only way you can get ass then kill yourself...

If you think Roethlisrapist didn't violate this girl in some way you are in denial.....

Strapping Young Lad wrote: You're a fucking idiot. It's obvious from the rest of that post that he simply forgit to write not, but you in all your supposed intelligence had to point it out and act like you were telling us something profound....haha

Its funny to see some people blame the girl for getting so drunk that she could be taken advantage of. Guess what, a girl should be able to blackout buttass naked in the middle of mens rr and not have anyone touch her. what kind of fucking pig lays hands on a girl near the point of blacking out!???!?! If that's the only way you can get ass then kill yourself...

If you think Roethlisrapist didn't violate this girl in some way you are in denial.....

Antoher fine and unbiased post by the neighborhood fuck up........"strap on dildo"!

I would be surprised if you even see anything filed in civil court on this matter. I'm sure a release of claims has been signed and paid off by now. If not, discussions are definitely in the works.

What kind of pig lays hands on a girl near the point of blacking out!???

Personal Attack removed by wes_mantooth.

You know I have been on Ben ever since this happened but now that everything has come to light I blame the girl. In her statement she said Ben exposed himself then took her in the bathroom, she told him no then they had sex. Her statement didn't say Ben then raped me it said he then had sex with me......ok.......

I still think Ben is a thug but any woman who gets falling down drunk sais no but has sex anyway it is all on her. Women can be so stupid. She probably wouldn't even have went to the cops if it weren't for her friends. That is what I thought all along is that her friends are the ones who encouraged her to go to the police. She asked the detectives not pursue charges. She knew what she did.

Time to move on....only thing left out there that might remotely surprise me is that Peyton Manning turns up at an all night x-rated movie house having sex with pee wee herman.:s

Al Capone wrote: What kind of pig lays hands on a girl near the point of blacking out!???

There, they're actually trying to make you look like a decent person over here. More than you can say for familywatchdog. Over there they are making you look like a real creep.

Strapping Young Lad wrote:

Al Capone wrote: What kind of pig lays hands on a girl near the point of blacking out!???

There, they're actually trying to make you look like a decent person over here. More than you can say for familywatchdog. Over there they are making you look like a real creep.

Come on guys.....enough with the pedophile slams. It is lame and moronic at best.