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Mar 1, 2010 10:34 PM
I donno, the Wolves have 5 guys averaging over 10 points a game...and in my opinion the second, MAYBE an outside chance of the best center in the NBA in Al Jefferson.
Mar 1, 2010 10:34pm
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Mar 1, 2010 10:34 PM
Even the Kings. Evans, they likely wouldn't have gotten rid of Martin if they had LeBron, some half way decent bigs, a few good shooters. They'd be fine. Landry, Nocioni, Udrih, Casspi. Definitely be a playoff team.
Mar 1, 2010 10:34pm
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Mar 1, 2010 10:35 PM
Tyreke Evans, Donte Green, Spencer Hawes, Cassipi and Carl Landry are not makin the playoffs with LBJ lol
Mar 1, 2010 10:35pm
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Mar 1, 2010 10:37 PM
I beg to differ.
Mar 1, 2010 10:37pm
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Mar 1, 2010 10:37 PM
if they had martin i could agree theyd stand a godo shot...but without....nah
Mar 1, 2010 10:37pm
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Mar 1, 2010 10:40 PM
Kobe made the playoffs with Smush Parker. I know the West is good, but it isn't THAT good.
Mar 1, 2010 10:40pm
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Mar 1, 2010 10:46 PM
SQ_Crazies wrote: Kobe made the playoffs with Smush Parker. I know the West is good, but it isn't THAT good.
Come on now its Kobe
Mar 1, 2010 10:46pm
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Mar 2, 2010 2:30 AM
LOL @ you guys who think you can just plug in a great player with a bunch of guys he's never played with before and it automatically make them a playoff team..

This just in, LeBron or anybody for that matter can't do it on their own.. It's taken the Cavs 7 years to build this team into a championship caliber team w/ LeBron.. You think some other team is going to do it overnight?

Anyway, this is one of the most entertaining games I've been to. Sat about 13 rows behind the Cavs bench and had a blast.. At one point, (during Delontes' dunkface of T-Mac) the bench was celebrating so wildly that they actually tripped over each other.. Hilarious..

But my goodness, the Knicks are TERRIBLE. They were only worried about their numbers and nobody played defense.. Made for a lot of nice dunks though.
Mar 2, 2010 2:30am
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Mar 2, 2010 11:09 AM
I didn't even see boobie on the bench last night ***sigh***
Mar 2, 2010 11:09am
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Mar 2, 2010 11:20 AM
LTrain23 wrote: LOL @ you guys who think you can just plug in a great player with a bunch of guys he's never played with before and it automatically make them a playoff team..

This just in, LeBron or anybody for that matter can't do it on their own.. It's taken the Cavs 7 years to build this team into a championship caliber team w/ LeBron.. You think some other team is going to do it overnight?

Anyway, this is one of the most entertaining games I've been to. Sat about 13 rows behind the Cavs bench and had a blast.. At one point, (during Delontes' dunkface of T-Mac) the bench was celebrating so wildly that they actually tripped over each other.. Hilarious..

But my goodness, the Knicks are TERRIBLE. They were only worried about their numbers and nobody played defense.. Made for a lot of nice dunks though.
Any team + Lebron = Playoff team

Any team + Lebron =/= Championship contender
Mar 2, 2010 11:20am
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Mar 2, 2010 11:45 AM
^^ Boobie was out last night and tomorrow for personal reasons. I am not sure what, but I know his g/f was having complications before
Mar 2, 2010 11:45am
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Mar 2, 2010 11:59 AM
I am guessing it was because of complications from Keyshia's pregnancy.
Mar 2, 2010 11:59am
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Mar 2, 2010 12:25 PM
Yea I looked on the Cav's website and it has him listed inactive as day to day.
Mar 2, 2010 12:25pm
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Mar 2, 2010 3:12 PM
LTrain23 wrote: This just in, LeBron or anybody for that matter can't do it on their own.. It's taken the Cavs 7 years to build this team into a championship caliber team w/ LeBron.. You think some other team is going to do it overnight?
We're not talking about a championship caliber team, we're talking about a playoff team.
Mar 2, 2010 3:12pm
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Mar 2, 2010 3:16 PM
You could plug LeBron into ANY team and they would make the playoffs.
Mar 2, 2010 3:16pm
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Mar 2, 2010 3:20 PM
Sage wrote: You could plug LeBron into ANY team and they would make the playoffs.
Maybe true, but there is a huge difference between playoff contenders and championship contenders.

Cleveland is built right now to be championship contenders while most of the teams LeBron may go to may very well reach the playoffs but won't have a legit shot. I think you could agree on that.

Most teams will look good 5-7 players deep but Cleveland looks good when all healthy and together (Shaq, Z, AV, Jamison, JJ, Powe) (LeBron, Moon, Parker, West, Gibson, Williams). That isn't including Jawad who has looked good at times. That's a 12 deep team right now.
Mar 2, 2010 3:20pm
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Mar 2, 2010 3:34 PM
The argument wasn't if he'd make them a Championship caliber squad, but rather, if they would make the playoffs.
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Mar 2, 2010 3:36 PM
Sage wrote: The argument wasn't if he'd make them a Championship caliber squad, but rather, if they would make the playoffs.
I know. But the argument is pointless because LeBron won't leave a championship caliber team for a possible playoff team.
Mar 2, 2010 3:36pm
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Mar 2, 2010 3:59 PM
devil1197 wrote:
Sage wrote: The argument wasn't if he'd make them a Championship caliber squad, but rather, if they would make the playoffs.
I know. But the argument is pointless because LeBron won't leave a championship caliber team for a possible playoff team.
Well no fucking shit...does that mean we still can't debate the hypothetical topic though?
Mar 2, 2010 3:59pm
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Mar 2, 2010 4:01 PM
SportsAndLady wrote:
devil1197 wrote:
Sage wrote: The argument wasn't if he'd make them a Championship caliber squad, but rather, if they would make the playoffs.
I know. But the argument is pointless because LeBron won't leave a championship caliber team for a possible playoff team.
Well no fucking shit...does that mean we still can't debate the hypothetical topic though?
You can debate all you want about pointless, hypothetical topics.
Mar 2, 2010 4:01pm
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Mar 2, 2010 4:13 PM
You're missing the point, this particular discussion has nothing to do with him leaving really. The opinion that he would turn any team into a playoff team was thrown out there--it wasn't being used in the debate of whether or not he'll leave in this case.
Mar 2, 2010 4:13pm
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Mar 2, 2010 4:15 PM
Yeah

I mean I don't think Lebron would leave the Cavs to go to a team with a bunch of scrubs, but September threw out the comment about LeBron not making the Knicks into Playoff contenders, with the same talent they have now.
Mar 2, 2010 4:15pm
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Mar 2, 2010 4:19 PM
I'd say he would take a majority of the NBA teams to the playoffs.

But there would be some teams right now like the NYK and NJN. I am sorry but there isn't one player in the NBA that could take a 6 win team to 30 wins. That's just my opinion. They have some talent like Harris, Lee and Lopez, but LeBron would be asked to do way to much. Depth plays a big role because if one of their main starters go down then it makes it that much harder.

NYK just because they run a system that has no defense and teams like that will not make the playoffs with that roster + LeBron. Now if Mike D decided to actually try to play some defense with LeBron, Chandler, Lee, Gallinari and co. then they would probably steal the 7th or 8th seed. But their style of play is terrible.

Talent wise most of the teams could make the playoffs with LeBron but it takes more than talent to get there especially when you look at the Western Conference.
Mar 2, 2010 4:19pm
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Mar 2, 2010 4:54 PM
Hb31187 wrote: I think theres no way the timberwolves make the playoffs with him at all, or the clippers
Twolves no...Clips...I think they do.
Mar 2, 2010 4:54pm
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Mar 2, 2010 4:57 PM
SQ_Crazies wrote: I've seriously seen better chemistry in pick up games at the rec than I do with this Knicks team. They're pathetic.
D'Antonio should be shitcanned. Throwing up 3 point off balaced bricks with 15 seconds left on the shot clock is ridiculous. Couple that with no effort at the other end....horrible.

But of course watching a New York team suck has it's upside....
Mar 2, 2010 4:57pm