KnightXC1 wrote:

pkebker wrote: You get many a lot of rests in hockey as well. You skate hard for a minute than get a break. Don't get me wrong, I thnk it takes athletes to be in incredible shape to play both sports, but I feel your assertion that NBA stand around is totally false. Even the best athletes in the NBA are drenched in sweat after each quarter, that in itself shows how hard they are working.

You made my point for me. When hockey players are on the ice for a shift, they skate HARD for 45 seconds to a minute then come off and depending on the player may go right back on the next shift. It's different than the NBA where you get taken out and sit on the bench for a much longer period of time. I didn't say that all NBA players stand around because they don't watch. But if you were to watch say 2 or 3 guys on the court with Lebron or Kobe during a game and see how much they actually move on offense, you may be more surprised than you think. We can agree to disagree but from someone who has played both sports, hockey is tougher to play and more demanding.

DeyDurkie5 wrote:

rock_knutne wrote:

DeyDurkie5 wrote:I'm hungover and that came out wrong...You are playing a full countries talent compared to what you would be playing in an NFL game. I don't get why it's so hard for you to admit that the World Cup is the most grueling when in reality it is haha...4 years>>>>2 months

And I don't get why you can understand that the World Cup is not "literally" a four year process. They could play all of those qualifiers in a matter of a month if they wanted to but they can't because of club duties. Another thing, they don't actually start qualifiers for over a year after the World Cup finals have been completed and in the case of Europe, it's a full two years because of the European championships which has a qualification round too.

Again, we can agree to disagree on this one, there's no other path to a title that's more physically and mentally grueling than the Stanley Cup.

But they don't, the spread it out over a 4 year period and the fact they play club and European championships pretty much proves my point lol

rock_knutne wrote:

DeyDurkie5 wrote:

rock_knutne wrote:

DeyDurkie5 wrote:I'm hungover and that came out wrong...You are playing a full countries talent compared to what you would be playing in an NFL game. I don't get why it's so hard for you to admit that the World Cup is the most grueling when in reality it is haha...4 years>>>>2 months

And I don't get why you can understand that the World Cup is not "literally" a four year process. They could play all of those qualifiers in a matter of a month if they wanted to but they can't because of club duties. Another thing, they don't actually start qualifiers for over a year after the World Cup finals have been completed and in the case of Europe, it's a full two years because of the European championships which has a qualification round too.

Again, we can agree to disagree on this one, there's no other path to a title that's more physically and mentally grueling than the Stanley Cup.

But they don't, the spread it out over a 4 year period and the fact they play club and European championships pretty much proves my point lol

You know what, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You are 100% wrong about the World Cup qualification process, ayone with an inkling of knowledge on international soccer and how it works would know this, you obviously do not. End of discussion!

DeyDurkie5 wrote:

rock_knutne wrote:

DeyDurkie5 wrote:

rock_knutne wrote:

DeyDurkie5 wrote:I'm hungover and that came out wrong...You are playing a full countries talent compared to what you would be playing in an NFL game. I don't get why it's so hard for you to admit that the World Cup is the most grueling when in reality it is haha...4 years>>>>2 months

And I don't get why you can understand that the World Cup is not "literally" a four year process. They could play all of those qualifiers in a matter of a month if they wanted to but they can't because of club duties. Another thing, they don't actually start qualifiers for over a year after the World Cup finals have been completed and in the case of Europe, it's a full two years because of the European championships which has a qualification round too.

Again, we can agree to disagree on this one, there's no other path to a title that's more physically and mentally grueling than the Stanley Cup.

But they don't, the spread it out over a 4 year period and the fact they play club and European championships pretty much proves my point lol

You know what, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You are 100% wrong about the World Cup qualification process, ayone with an inkling of knowledge on international soccer and how it works would know this, you obviously do not. End of discussion!

The fact they are playing on different teams throughout the process makes it even more grueling. The fact you can't see that makes you the one with no knowledge turdball

KnightXC1 wrote:

pkebker wrote: You get many a lot of rests in hockey as well. You skate hard for a minute than get a break. Don't get me wrong, I thnk it takes athletes to be in incredible shape to play both sports, but I feel your assertion that NBA stand around is totally false. Even the best athletes in the NBA are drenched in sweat after each quarter, that in itself shows how hard they are working.

You made my point for me. When hockey players are on the ice for a shift, they skate HARD for 45 seconds to a minute then come off and depending on the player may go right back on the next shift. It's different than the NBA where you get taken out and sit on the bench for a much longer period of time. I didn't say that all NBA players stand around because they don't watch. But if you were to watch say 2 or 3 guys on the court with Lebron or Kobe during a game and see how much they actually move on offense, you may be more surprised than you think. We can agree to disagree but from someone who has played both sports, hockey is tougher to play and more demanding.

Mr Pat wrote:

KnightXC1 wrote:

pkebker wrote:
I see your Kobe and Lebron and I'll raise you a Steve Nash and a Chris Paul where you are sprinting all game, longer than 45 seconds. Also, while we're on the Lebron and Kobe, those two fellas are working their asses off and rarely sit because "everyone else is standing around."

I didn't say Kobe and Lebron stand around the whole time. I said other guys on the court stand around and watch them go one on one, which plenty of players in the league do. Even superstars take possessions off and let someone else work. Even Paul and Nash (as much as I like both of them) take it easy on some possessions. Not their fault but it's just how the NBA is.

KnightXC1 wrote:

Mr Pat wrote:

KnightXC1 wrote:

pkebker wrote:
I see your Kobe and Lebron and I'll raise you a Steve Nash and a Chris Paul where you are sprinting all game, longer than 45 seconds. Also, while we're on the Lebron and Kobe, those two fellas are working their asses off and rarely sit because "everyone else is standing around."

I didn't say Kobe and Lebron stand around the whole time. I said other guys on the court stand around and watch them go one on one, which plenty of players in the league do. Even superstars take possessions off and let someone else work. Even Paul and Nash (as much as I like both of them) take it easy on some possessions. Not their fault but it's just how the NBA is.

Some players in hockey don't move at all (Goalies). And I know I've seen hundreds of times with teams on power plays where the only thing that is moving is the puck.

pkebker wrote:Some players in hockey don't move at all (Goalies). And I know I've seen hundreds of times with teams on power plays where the only thing that is moving is the puck.

Hb31187 wrote: Lol yes the NHL is so much more popular then the NBA

So popular in fact that...
1.Vs and NBC once in a whillllle are the only networks i see it on aside from FSN
2. Most of the big name players are foreign bc most kids in america dont care enough to grow up playing hockey
3. The players are paid like NBA bench warmers

rock_knutne wrote:

pkebker wrote:Some players in hockey don't move at all (Goalies). And I know I've seen hundreds of times with teams on power plays where the only thing that is moving is the puck.

WOW, you can't be serious? I'll give you the goalie doesn't move that much but that's their job, to stop the puck from going in and even while just standing in front of the goal, they have a puck being shot at them at speeds of 100mph plus.........not exactly a walk in the park. Your comment about the power play is way off base, a good PP is always in motion and penalty killing is a relentlessly exhausting job. I don't know what game's you've watched but you couldn't be farther from the truth with those comments.

The_Crosby_Show wrote: Unfortunatley, I think us two could run a better PP than Mike Yeo! lol.

Hb31187 wrote: Lol ahh yes, those greedy NBA players. Just in it for the money, while these blue collared tough hockey players do it for the love of the game /roll eyes

Hb31187 wrote: And sorry theyre not paid like bench warmers, instead the top players in the game are paid like mid level exception players in the NBA* my bad. And as far as ppl in the US not giving a fuck abotu hockey when theyre young...look at tha top 10 list you just gave me haha

Hb31187 wrote: And sorry theyre not paid like bench warmers, instead the top players in the game are paid like mid level exception players in the NBA* my bad. And as far as ppl in the US not giving a fuck abotu hockey when theyre young...look at tha top 10 list you just gave me haha

krazie45 wrote: Non serious question guys. Why has no team ever put an incredibly fat goalie between the pipes? Someone morbidly obese to the point where only the best players in the NHL can fit the puck into the tiny spaces that remain?

krazie45 wrote: Non serious question guys. Why has no team ever put an incredibly fat goalie between the pipes? Someone morbidly obese to the point where only the best players in the NHL can fit the puck into the tiny spaces that remain?

rock_knutne wrote:

Hb31187 wrote: Lol ahh yes, those greedy NBA players. Just in it for the money, while these blue collared tough hockey players do it for the love of the game /roll eyes

That's a lame respone, crosby just gave you concrete figures that CLEARLY dismissed your previous statement about salaries.