Do These Former/Current NBA Players Belong in the Hall of Fame?

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Jan 28, 2010 3:58 PM
Oh what the fuck ever, have you ever been there? I bet they have a shrine to LeBron there right now--in or not, anyone who is walking through the place thinks he is. The basketball HOF is stupid.
Jan 28, 2010 3:58pm
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Jan 28, 2010 4:50 PM
Robert Horry- Yes
Mark Jackson- Leaning towards yes
Grant Hill- Yes
Stephon Marbury- Hell no
Vince Carter- No
Dennis Rodman- Yes
Shawn Kemp- No
Kevin Johnson- No
Rasheed Wallace- LOL! Nope
Dirk Nowitzki- Yes
Jan 28, 2010 4:50pm
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Jan 28, 2010 4:59 PM
Skyhook79 wrote: "Rodman is a no brainer to me. He's arguably the best rebounder ever, and was a key player on two of the defining dynasties in NBA history."


He might be top 20 but he not in the conversation for best ever.


http://www.rauzulusstreet.com/basketball/nbarecords/careerrebounds.htm
So the all-time leaders list is how we define the best at something? You think Robert Parish, Karl Malone, Buck Williams,and Kareem are better rebounders than Rodman? And does this translate to other things, such as if/when Lebron finishes with more career points than Kobe he'll be the better scorer in your mind?
Jan 28, 2010 4:59pm
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Jan 28, 2010 5:12 PM
Skyhook will probably never admit that LeBron is a better scorer than Kobe, even then.
Jan 28, 2010 5:12pm
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Jan 28, 2010 5:30 PM
Trueblue23 wrote: Robert Horry- Yes
Mark Jackson- Leaning towards yes
Grant Hill- Yes
Stephon Marbury- Hell no
Vince Carter- No
Dennis Rodman- No
Shawn Kemp- No
Kevin Johnson- No
Rasheed Wallace- LOL! Nope
Dirk Nowitzki- Yes
Horry but not Rodman? I'm all for people having opinions, but could you please explain this?
Jan 28, 2010 5:30pm
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Jan 28, 2010 5:33 PM
^I was wondering the same thing.
Jan 28, 2010 5:33pm
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Jan 28, 2010 5:34 PM
2kool4skool wrote:
Trueblue23 wrote: Robert Horry- Yes
Mark Jackson- Leaning towards yes
Grant Hill- Yes
Stephon Marbury- Hell no
Vince Carter- No
Dennis Rodman- No
Shawn Kemp- No
Kevin Johnson- No
Rasheed Wallace- LOL! Nope
Dirk Nowitzki- Yes
Horry but not Rodman? I'm all for people having opinions, but could you please explain this?
I'm thinking the same thing. If Horry is in because of his 7 NBA championships, wouldn't that mean Rodman deserve the same since he has 5? Not to forget the number of years Dennis led the league in rebounding.
Jan 28, 2010 5:34pm
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Jan 28, 2010 5:57 PM
SQ_Crazies wrote: Skyhook will probably never admit that LeBron is a better scorer than Kobe, even then.
what happened to trying to keep the Lebron Kobe arguments in the official Lebron Kobe debate thread?
Jan 28, 2010 5:57pm
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Jan 28, 2010 6:10 PM
LOL, he started it....not to mention, the main point really had more relevance to this topic than "The Debate" anyways.
Jan 28, 2010 6:10pm
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Jan 28, 2010 6:26 PM
SQ_Crazies wrote: LOL, he started it....not to mention, the main point really had more relevance to this topic than "The Debate" anyways.
I never mentioned Kobe or Lebron. Like I said before your the Town Drunk on here only dumber and nobody really pays any attention to what you say.
Jan 28, 2010 6:26pm
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Jan 28, 2010 6:27 PM
2kool4skool wrote:
Skyhook79 wrote: "Rodman is a no brainer to me. He's arguably the best rebounder ever, and was a key player on two of the defining dynasties in NBA history."


He might be top 20 but he not in the conversation for best ever.


http://www.rauzulusstreet.com/basketball/nbarecords/careerrebounds.htm
So the all-time leaders list is how we define the best at something? You think Robert Parish, Karl Malone, Buck Williams,and Kareem are better rebounders than Rodman? And does this translate to other things, such as if/when Lebron finishes with more career points than Kobe he'll be the better scorer in your mind?
I was just showing you the list. Are you telling me he should be in the same category as a rebounder as Wilt,Russell,Thurmond or even Wes Unseld?????
Jan 28, 2010 6:27pm
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Jan 28, 2010 6:28 PM
Skyhook79 wrote:
SQ_Crazies wrote: LOL, he started it....not to mention, the main point really had more relevance to this topic than "The Debate" anyways.
I never mentioned Kobe or Lebron. Like I said before your the Town Drunk on here only dumber and nobody really pays any attention to what you say.
You're arrogant enough to think that "he" referred to you?
Jan 28, 2010 6:28pm
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Jan 28, 2010 6:38 PM
Skyhook79 wrote:
2kool4skool wrote:
Skyhook79 wrote: "Rodman is a no brainer to me. He's arguably the best rebounder ever, and was a key player on two of the defining dynasties in NBA history."


He might be top 20 but he not in the conversation for best ever.


http://www.rauzulusstreet.com/basketball/nbarecords/careerrebounds.htm
So the all-time leaders list is how we define the best at something? You think Robert Parish, Karl Malone, Buck Williams,and Kareem are better rebounders than Rodman? And does this translate to other things, such as if/when Lebron finishes with more career points than Kobe he'll be the better scorer in your mind?
I was just showing you the list. Are you telling me he should be in the same category as a rebounder as Wilt,Russell,Thurmond or even Wes Unseld?????

I think he's in that category, yes. I'd probably rank all 4 of them above him, but not by much. I think he's the best of the last 25 years if I was to break it into eras.

I said "he's arguably the best ever" and you replied with "maybe top 20" and then backed it up with the all-time leaders list, which is a absurd way to rank people, hence my response.
Jan 28, 2010 6:38pm
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Jan 28, 2010 6:40 PM
Yea my fault on that one guys, simple typo.
Jan 28, 2010 6:40pm
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Jan 29, 2010 2:31 AM
Robert Horry
Mark Jackson

Grant Hill
Stephon Marbury
Vince Carter
Dennis Rodman
Shawn Kemp
Kevin Johnson
Rasheed Wallace

Dirk Nowitzki


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Jan 29, 2010 2:31am
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Jan 29, 2010 3:39 AM
Horry, Dirk, Rodman

End list.
Jan 29, 2010 3:39am
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Jan 29, 2010 7:44 AM
not yet--[no]
Jan 29, 2010 7:44am
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Jan 29, 2010 10:59 AM
Below is a link to a Basketball Hall of Fame probability list for active players. Dirk is in, VC, and Hill are likely selections.The probability for the retired players on the list can be found by viewing that players career resume.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_active.html
Jan 29, 2010 10:59am
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Jan 29, 2010 11:11 AM
Why do people think Vince Carter is HOF worthy. What the hell has he done in his career to make him a HOF? OH he won a dunk contest and dunked over a an Italian guy in the Olympics. He has no business being there, especially with how below average he has been the last 5 years.
Jan 29, 2010 11:11am
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Jan 29, 2010 11:19 AM
KnightXC1 wrote: Why do people think Vince Carter is HOF worthy. What the hell has he done in his career to make him a HOF? OH he won a dunk contest and dunked over a an Italian guy in the Olympics. He has no business being there, especially with how below average he has been the last 5 years.
acting like that was some plain old dunk Dan Majerle could do
Jan 29, 2010 11:19am
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Jan 29, 2010 11:23 AM
Besides Lebron, Vince Carter may have been the most physically gifted and athletic player to ever play the game. He just never put it all together and it’s a shame because his upside was tremendous. Bruce Bowen said on ESPN that Vince is just as good as Kobe talent wise, but the difference between Kobe and Vince is that Kobe 'wants' it. He said he never got that out of Vince defending him. So I personally don't think Vince Carter is a Hall of Fame player, but I added him to the list because there are those who believe he does. I'm not sure why though.
Jan 29, 2010 11:23am
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Jan 29, 2010 6:29 PM
Robert Horry yes....can't argue with 7 titles.
Jan 29, 2010 6:29pm
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Jan 29, 2010 11:05 PM
Dirk and big shot Bob....none of the others including Rodman.
Jan 29, 2010 11:05pm
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Jan 29, 2010 11:33 PM
I would probably say no to all of them with the exception of Rodman, he is a maybe. He is the only one on the list who I feel "dominated" a certain aspect of the game when he was on the floor. When he was playing, you expected him to get every rebound, dive after loose balls, play tough Defense.

Robert Horry?? Why not John Salley? This would be the equivalent to letting Matt Millen into the Football Hall of Fame because he won 4 Superbowl rings.
Jan 29, 2010 11:33pm
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Jan 30, 2010 11:21 AM
2quick - Don't get me wrong, that dunk over Italian guy was amazing and one of the best dunks I have ever seen. However, one dunk and a dunk contest doesn't get you in the HOF. He has had an underachieving career and never gotten to the level he should have. Not a hall of famer in my mind.
Jan 30, 2010 11:21am