sleeper;1786811 wrote:Does one need to quantify work ethic to know the difference between the work ethic of a CEO and a shelf stocker at Walmart?

Work ethic is subjective, but with a little logic its easy to see the difference. Looking forward to your future requests for data while providing none yourself, nor any semblance of real world logic to support your statements. Continue to believe that poor people work just as hard as your average doctor or CEO. It's completely disingenuous and downright obtuse to pretend there is no correlation between work ethic and wealth.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1786830 wrote:You apparently can't read either, huh? I wasn't asking for data.. I said it doesn't exist. You finally admitted that.

And no you can't make a blanket statement that A works harder than B in any circumstance. Work ethic has little to do with one becoming a CEO as much as the situation a person was in... ie: went to a better school with better networking. A was smarter than B.
A CEO had a better foot in the door at a company than a shelf stocker in most cases. Not his work ethic.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1786830 wrote:You apparently can't read either, huh? I wasn't asking for data.. I said it doesn't exist. You finally admitted that.

And no you can't make a blanket statement that A works harder than B in any circumstance. Work ethic has little to do with one becoming a CEO as much as the situation a person was in... ie: went to a better school with better networking. A was smarter than B.
A CEO had a better foot in the door at a company than a shelf stocker in most cases. Not his work ethic.

rrfan;1786834 wrote:Now who is generalizing???

rrfan;1786834 wrote:Now who is generalizing???

sleeper;1786840 wrote:Why bother? Just remember the only reason CEOs are where they are is because of Daddy and that shelf stockers work just as hard but they don't have the connections that the CEOs have.

LOL. Delusional.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1786841 wrote:like I said.. you cant read.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1786793 wrote:I'm not asking for data. I'm saying it'd be stupid to say this could be backed up by data since there's no good metrics for measuring work ethic let alone a work ethic a wealth correlation.

sleeper;1786846 wrote:Because getting into a better school + better networking is all because of daddy? Or maybe getting into a better school requires work ethic to get top grades while balancing extra curriculars and performing well on standardized tests. That has nothing to do with work ethic? That's just luck and chance? Straight delusional.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1786859 wrote:Where in the world did I say it has to do with daddy ? In some cases yes and others no. I also say in most cases person A is smarter than person B. what does that have to do with daddy ? Keep pulling shit out of your ass to see it sticks. Point remains there's a plethora of reasons why someone becomes CEO and someone becomes stocker. in other words you can't make blanket statements like work ethic.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1786859 wrote:Where in the world did I say it has to do with daddy ? In some cases yes and others no. I also say in most cases person A is smarter than person B. what does that have to do with daddy ? Keep pulling shit out of your ass to see it sticks. Point remains there's a plethora of reasons why someone becomes CEO and someone becomes stocker. in other words you can't make blanket statements like work ethic.

like_that;1786857 wrote:It's common sense. What's more likely? A fast food employee half assing and keeping his job or someone in a high white collar position half assing and keeping his job?

What takes more work to achieve? A fast food job or a leadership position at an accounting firm.


You can list plenty analogies like those. As sleeper said its not an absolute correlation, but if you think about it overall most rich people work harder than poorer people.

sleeper;1786870 wrote:Alright, you're delusional and disingenuous. I'm done. Enjoy!

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1786876 wrote:Correcting you doesn't make one disingenuous. Enjoy!

like_that;1786857 wrote:It's common sense. What's more likely? A fast food employee half assing and keeping his job or someone in a high white collar position half assing and keeping his job?

What takes more work to achieve? A fast food job or a leadership position at an accounting firm.


You can list plenty analogies like those. As sleeper said its not an absolute correlation, but if you think about it overall most rich people work harder than poorer people.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1786909 wrote:Lol stfu sleeper. Speaks of others being disingenuous while taking a simple minded approach towards issues. You're great at that. Yes sleeper ... You're right. It's work ethic that's the determining factor in ones wealth. Life's simple. You solved it. Isn't it great to think in absolute terms!!! People are idiots for delving into socioeconomics. You've had the answer the whole time! It's work ethic. It was so simple the whole time! Everyone has the same opportunity in life! Don't question it! People are only paid what they earn! If you take away that basic fact then capitalism no longer makes sense, and God forbid we approach that territory.
Thank you for settling it for everyone. Who knew life was so absolute?

sleeper;1786913 wrote:You once again revert to classic Zwick.

I isolated one variable that can form the basis for a lot of other variables in life and simple stated the correlation between a great work ethic and a higher income exists. You apparently think everyone has the same work ethic and the only difference in income is because rich people have wealthy daddies.

Delusional and disingenuous. Classic Zwick.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1786914 wrote:Dude you're wrong. Yes a good work ethic can be a trait of successful, wealthy people. but it isn't mandatory nor exclusive to wealthy. It certainly doesn't distinguish them from poor people despite what you want to believe.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1786919 wrote:Lol you just literally said I don't believe these people exist. Give me examples besides,of course, the examples we already know that exist. Wealth isn't new in this country. There's tons of people who's grandfathers and great grandfathers were wealthy that haven't had to hold a job ever in their lives. Not everyone is a self made person.