gut;1790169 wrote:No, you're being an ass. The reckless Millenial generation voted for a guy that doubled the debt PLUS the largest entitlement expansion in 50 years.

Sure, everyone is fucking the unborn people. But they're going to blame you just as much, probably more, as grandma and grandpa...because you've already got a pretty equal share and you're just getting started.

sleeper;1790170 wrote: I do agree though that he isn't as bad as everyone claims he is. He's an average President but I'd take him again over Hillary and certainly over Trump.

sleeper;1790173 wrote:Everyone is liberal at a young age. I don't find the trend surprising nor relevant to this discussion. Look no further than the support of Ron Paul, perhaps the only candidate who seriously talked about the debt being an issue, having overwhelmingly young supporters. But whatever helps you sleep at night. And yes I'm sure an overwhelming amount of millennials voted for Bush's tax cuts and Medicaid Part D program; LOL.

The Boomers have had ~10 elections of voting age and Millennials ~3 but yes let's distribute blame equally among them. Sorry, that isn't reality. I hope the Boomers get theirs someday; they deserve it, they are entitled to it.

gut;1790175 wrote:Obama won with huge support from millenials. 3 elections where we've racked up nearly $12T+ in debt over the last 12 years. But, nah, Millenials aren't to blame - just look at their support for Ron Paul! All 1% of them that voted for him!!!!

No, the Millenials are flocking to Bernie Sanders - they're not just liberal, they're stupid. Racking up debt and entitlements at a blistering pace Boomers never even dreamed of.

If you want to blame Boomers for ruining the country, maybe blame them for the dumbass, entitled kids they spit out to finish the job.

I hope they enjoy their cat food in retirement.

HitsRus;1790188 wrote:Maybe that will finally get you guys to move out of our basements.

gut;1790174 wrote:I'd take Hillary over the current Divider in Chief who has demonstrated little interest in actually doing the job. Even Bill Clinton forgot for a minute he was a Democrat in his old age and admitted Obama has been a disaster.

HitsRus;1790198 wrote:Well, I planned for my retirement, and you'll be happy to know that whatever Social security benefits I get will be going back into the kitty to pay for someone else's cat food.

sleeper;1790218 wrote:You may have, but the vast majority of Boomers have not. A lot of them are depending on the benefits they didn't pay for to get them through their glory years.

gut;1790221 wrote:They paid for their Social Security. They didn't pay for Medicare - but what difference does that make now that we have Obamacare? Millennials said, "hey, you didn't pay for your Medicare, but don't sweat it here's healthcare for everyone".

And last I checked, Medicare has been at the same rate for 30 years - Millennials are paying the same rate their parents have been paying.

So you're barking up the wrong tree. The naive Millennials came of age to vote, had a chance to change direction, and voted for MORE of the same. Yeah, we're doomed unless that generation gets a clue, because they are going to bankrupt the country a hell of a lot faster than their parents were working on.

sleeper;1790222 wrote:I lump all entitlement program together. What's the real point in separating them other than to play semantics?

BTW, Millennials are voting for change, but it won't happen overnight. Boomers haven't voted for any change other than what they can get more of without having to pay for it.

gut;1790225 wrote:Yeah, they voted for hope and change alright, another $9T+ and change and the most massive entitlement expansion in 50 years.

Lump it all together if you want, but the people Millenials are voting for are adding to the debt and entitlements at a breakneck pace that makes Boomers look frugal in comparison.

In other (relevant to the thread) news, if Cruz wins tomorrow it becomes more likely we see a brokered convention.

sleeper;1790229 wrote:You also didn't mention they would like to increase taxes to pay for it.

HitsRus;1790266 wrote:I am not afraid of a brokered convention, and I don't care if people get upset 'cause they "stole" the nomination from Trump.

HitsRus;1790266 wrote:.......but I would assure you that the great majority of voters are making their minds up on poor or incomplete reasoning, if any reasoning at all.

BRF;1790285 wrote:Bingo.

Just like every election this country has had.

HitsRus;1790266 wrote:I am not afraid of a brokered convention, and I don't care if people get upset 'cause they "stole" the nomination from Trump. The country was set up as a representative democracy...not a pure democracy...and it was set up that way for a reason. Most of us do not take the time necessary to make an informed choice or do our homework.....now I'm going to qualify that by asserting that almost everyone that's reading this on this site is a person who probably has done "their homework" or at least a modicum of research.......but I would assure you that the great majority of voters are making their minds up on poor or incomplete reasoning, if any reasoning at all.
I welcome our duly elected representative delegates to choose not only a candidate that resonates party values and can win in November, but also an individual capable of being a good POTUS. Most certainly, the "will of the people" should be taken into account...but it cannot and should not be absolute in a situation where neither candidate(s) get the required majority.

like_that;1790314 wrote:I'm not nervous about it either. I think it's a winning strategy at this point. I don't buy that people will stay at home in November because they are pouting that trump didn't win.

gut;1790324 wrote:
Compelling people to vote AGAINST someone else, rather than for you, has rarely (if ever) been a winning strategy.

gut;1790225 wrote:Yeah, they voted for hope and change alright, another $9T+ and change and the most massive entitlement expansion in 50 years.

Lump it all together if you want, but the people Millenials are voting for are adding to the debt and entitlements at a breakneck pace that makes Boomers look frugal in comparison.

And what's the biggest thing Millenials are crying about right now - student loans. Who's voting for what they can get and not pay for again? But, hey, it's only another $2T,

gut;1790283 wrote:I thought you agreed high taxes are job killers?

And taxes are right where they have been historically - 18.1% of GDP where it has been (+/- 2%) for 50+ years. You can't pay for all this stuff taxing just the top 1-5%....EVERYONE has to pay, social insurance means EVERYONE pays their premium and shares benefits.

As far as I can tell, the Millennials want even more benefits and to pay even less for them than their parents you demonize so much.

Like I said, if you really want to blame Boomers for ruining this country then blame them for raising lazy, stupid entitled kids that are going to do the job.

rrfan;1790462 wrote:Yes this!

What is the definition of a loan? Seems the Cry baby Millenials did not go to school that day.