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Jun 10, 2014 11:52 AM
BR1986FB;1624545 wrote:Probably a good idea. That would've been a circus with JFF there.
I'm indifferent about hard knocks. I've never really thought of them being at training camp a distraction for previous teams on the show, but they didn't have JFF. So who knows.

I just wanted to see it for selfish reasons really.
Jun 10, 2014 11:52am
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Jun 10, 2014 11:56 AM
The whole distraction thing is blown out of proportion imo. There are maybe 15 more people there than normal. The only difference is they have access to the coaches and team meetings.
Jun 10, 2014 11:56am
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Jun 10, 2014 11:59 AM
SportsAndLady;1624551 wrote:I'm indifferent about hard knocks. I've never really thought of them being at training camp a distraction for previous teams on the show, but they didn't have JFF. So who knows.

I just wanted to see it for selfish reasons really.
Understand and agree. I'd kind of like to see it but I don't want it to turn into a spectacle. JFF rides on a blowup unicorn (or whatever it was), in a pool, while drinking a bottle of champagne and the media turns him into an axe murderer. At least he knows how to play the "game" by wearing a Cavs hat to the NBA Finals. :D
Jun 10, 2014 11:59am
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Jun 10, 2014 12:09 PM
BR1986FB;1624549 wrote:Agreed. He pisses you off so much we're like "eff him....get rid of his ass" but at the same time think "but watch the Steelers grab him and he'll turn it around."

As far as thavoice's comment goes, he could eventually be traded but for as good as he's been, I doubt they'd get much. At least not nearly what his true value should be, if he weren't a dumbass.
He would warrant a draft pick that is for sure, AND you can control to a point where he would go. Release him and he very well could end up on a contending AFC team.

The hard knocks thing....I have never really watched it but it will be less of a distraction than the legions of fans who will flocking to training camp. Some guys may act/say diff things when the camera's are around but doubt it becomes a distraction.
Jun 10, 2014 12:09pm
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Jun 10, 2014 12:31 PM
Most of the teams on hard knocks get good karma and make the playoffs.
Jun 10, 2014 12:31pm
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Jun 10, 2014 3:00 PM
like_that;1624578 wrote:Most of the teams on hard knocks get good karma and make the playoffs.
Eh it's been 50%. But only 2 out of the 8 teams didn't win at least 7 games after being featured on Hard Knocks.

I think the Browns would have been really good for the show but completely understand why they would turn it down. I really just hope it's not a team like the Jags.
Jun 10, 2014 3:00pm
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Jun 10, 2014 4:14 PM
Iliketurtles;1624656 wrote:Eh it's been 50%. But only 2 out of the 8 teams didn't win at least 7 games after being featured on Hard Knocks.

I think the Browns would have been really good for the show but completely understand why they would turn it down. I really just hope it's not a team like the Jags.
It'll wind up being the St. Louis Sams...I mean Rams, yeah, Rams.
Jun 10, 2014 4:14pm
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Jun 12, 2014 4:41 PM
Pretty much spot on. Just compare their attendance #s to when they were making the playoffs to the last 2 seasons when they went .500. They were near the bottom LOL. Cue thavoice with a long winded response claiming how he is not a bandwagon fan.
Jun 12, 2014 4:41pm
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Jun 12, 2014 4:48 PM
Check again your numbers again....average attendance, and home percentage.
Jun 12, 2014 4:48pm
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Jun 12, 2014 4:51 PM
like_that;1625529 wrote:Pretty much spot on. Just compare their attendance #s to when they were making the playoffs to the last 2 seasons when they went .500. They were near the bottom LOL. Cue thavoice with a long winded response claiming how he is not a bandwagon fan.
Reminds me of Indians fans who go on and on about the sellout streak in the 90s and how great they were, yet their average attendance is on par with a middle of the road MAC football team
Jun 12, 2014 4:51pm
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Jun 12, 2014 4:52 PM
Automatik;1625534 wrote:Check again your numbers again....average attendance, and home percentage.
In 2013 Pittsburgh was #30 in average attendance and #28 in home percentage. PATHETIC.
Jun 12, 2014 4:52pm
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Jun 12, 2014 4:54 PM
I was referring your statement about the past 2 seasons. They weren't that low in 2012.
Jun 12, 2014 4:54pm
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Classyposter58;1625539 wrote:Reminds me of Indians fans who go on and on about the sellout streak in the 90s and how great they were, yet their average attendance is on par with a middle of the road MAC football team
And yet tigers fans still will never come close to reaching 455 straight sell outs. Like I said before, until you do that, STFU. Not to mention you're one of the most fickle fans on this website. Hell, you are nowhere to be found if the tigers are down 1 run, but we sure as well will see you post if they somehow find a way to take the lead.

Also, big difference between selling out 8 games and 81 games every season. Not only that, but tribe fans don't even come close to claiming they are the best, nor does the media. Nice fail little guy.
Jun 12, 2014 4:54pm
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Jun 12, 2014 4:56 PM
Automatik;1625545 wrote:I was referring your statement about the past 2 seasons. They weren't that low in 2012.
The point is their attendance has been on a downward trajectory since their last SB season. It went from one of the top, to now near the bottom. Don't feed me bullshit about how steelers fans are the greatest. And yes when you compare the 2012 season (their first season they didn't take the playoffs in awhile) to the previous season they made the playoffs, there is a drop.
Jun 12, 2014 4:56pm
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Jun 12, 2014 5:00 PM
When were they near the top?

Average attendance doesn't mean shit when you have stadiums that vary in size. I look at the percentage.

Pittsburgh fans claim greatness because they are all over and travel well, much like OSU. It really bothers you doesn't it? lol
Jun 12, 2014 5:00pm
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Jun 12, 2014 5:04 PM
Automatik;1625549 wrote:When were they near the top?

Average attendance doesn't mean shit when you have stadiums that vary in size. I look at the percentage.

Pittsburgh fans claim greatness because they are all over and travel well, much like OSU. It really bothers you doesn't it? lol
Apparently it bugs you since you had a swift response in a Browns thread lol. I just commented on the article and the point they made. Not my problem steelers fans are a complete fraud when they claim they are great fans.

Also they "travel" well, because they have a bunch of bandwagon fans. Oh, so you live grew up in washington and you are somehow a steelers fan? LOL. I am sure that bandwagon is shrinking each year that goes by without a playoff appearance.
Jun 12, 2014 5:04pm
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Jun 12, 2014 5:06 PM
And to be fair I guess they weren't near the top (since average numbers are a bit skewed), but their percentage sure as hell has dropped.
Jun 12, 2014 5:06pm
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Jun 12, 2014 5:07 PM
I'm just wasting time until I can gtfo of this office.

"Greatest" is pure opinion, but they are definitely up there. I'd say the same for Cleveland and Green Bay, probably Seattle now also.
Jun 12, 2014 5:07pm
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Jun 12, 2014 5:11 PM
Automatik;1625554 wrote:I'm just wasting time until I can gtfo of this office.

"Greatest" is pure opinion, but they are definitely up there. I'd say the same for Cleveland and Green Bay, probably Seattle now also.
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Jun 12, 2014 5:11pm
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Jun 12, 2014 5:12 PM
Google "best NFL fan bases." I'm assuming you think only Pittsburgh fans are putting themselves up there...ammirite?

Pittsburgh's fanbase, LIKE CLEVELAND's has been praised since way back.
Jun 12, 2014 5:12pm
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Jun 12, 2014 5:16 PM
Automatik;1625558 wrote:Google "best NFL fan bases." I'm assuming you think only Pittsburgh fans are putting themselves up there...ammirite?

Pittsburgh's fanbase, LIKE CLEVELAND's has been praised since way back.
If you read my posts, I mentioned the media sucks their dick too without any substance to it.
Jun 12, 2014 5:16pm
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Jun 12, 2014 5:42 PM
Automatik;1625549 wrote:When were they near the top?

Average attendance doesn't mean shit when you have stadiums that vary in size. I look at the percentage.

Pittsburgh fans claim greatness because they are all over and travel well, much like OSU. It really bothers you doesn't it? lol
A lot bothers Little_that
Jun 12, 2014 5:42pm
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Jun 12, 2014 8:01 PM
Classlessdipshit58;1625591 wrote:A lot bothers Little_that
Yup, I am sure all is well in your delusional world where a worthless education degree from BGSU gets you a 50+k (base salary) sales job. LOLFAIL
Jun 12, 2014 8:01pm
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Jun 12, 2014 8:03 PM
Automatik;1625554 wrote:I'm just wasting time until I can gtfo of this office.

"Greatest" is pure opinion, but they are definitely up there. I'd say the same for Cleveland and Green Bay, probably Seattle now also.
Typical, nice little out clause for when you get pwned. If you're going to be moronic and defend pathetic steeler "fans" least go all in.
Jun 12, 2014 8:03pm