Dr. KnOiTaLL;1606795 wrote:Lol... you keep using "people in the know," and yet everything I've read says that "people in the know" are saying that Johnny Football is going to fall on draft day. The Texans are taking Clowney. That's as close to a done deal as there is in this year's draft. I'm of the opinion that Manziel is going to fall until the late first round, although I wouldn't be surprised for a team like Minnesota or Tampa Bay to snag him trying to bring some excitement to their organization.

Footwedge;1607150 wrote:LOL.. Middle of the first round? You, Kiper and Jaws....all effin dolts. You wanna win? Or do you revel in Cleveland sports misery? Which is it?

DeyDurkie5;1607161 wrote:You should be getting paid to post on here. Ur so smurt

IggyPride00;1606260 wrote:Kiper's new mock draft has the Browns taking Johnny Football at 4.

It will be pandemonium in this city if Johnny Football is this team's new signal caller this fall.

Kiper just said it on ESPN that not since Bernie has this team had any kind of identity at the position, and bringing in Johhny Football would bring an excitement level to Sundays that an entire generation of Browns fans has never seen.

Draft a WR at 26 and then watch this offense explode in September. We would honestly go from the most boring to one of the most exciting teams in the NFL overnight. We would probably even get on national TV a few times because of the presence of Johnny Football. ESPN would have the trucks outside of Berea all summer.

Just imagine how electric it would be at First Energy Stadium (pun intended) with the Browns playing a nationally televised night game the first time Johnny Football improvises on a broken play and hits Gordon in stride down field for a TD.

I am just hoping Farmer doesn't try and outsmart himself by even considering taking Carr if John Football is on the board. It would be a mutiny in this city, and I would happily take part in it.

Footwedge;1607150 wrote:LOL.. Middle of the first round? You, Kiper and Jaws....all effin dolts. You wanna win? Or do you revel in Cleveland sports misery? Which is it?

Kiper has been one of the more accurate analysts for years .[/QUOTE wrote:
Mow I know that you don't follow sports very closely. Kiper has shown absolutely no ability to analyze players. The Animal House guys laugh their asses off on his record. For example, where did Kiper's "#1 overall pick" Jake Locker go???

As for Jaworski, he's usually solid. But he's been caught lying...on tape...regarding his assessment of Manziel. A few short months ago he said that he wouldn't draft Manziel in the first 3 rounds. Now, most draft experts agree that J Football is the second coming. So as to not completely ruin his credibility, he now claims he only viewed 2 game tapes. Nice try Jaws.

like_that;1607228 wrote:Change JFF for Weeden, and this was pretty much the same thing you said 2 years ago. LOLFAIL. Not 100% sure, but I feel like I recall FW jerking off to the thought of Weeden throwing for the Browns too. If Farmer ever reads this site, hopefully he knows to do the exactly opposite of whatever FW and Iggy say.

Footwedge;1607313 wrote:Mow I know that you don't follow sports very closely. Kiper has shown absolutely no ability to analyze players. The Animal House guys laugh their asses off on his record. For example, where did Kiper's "#1 overall pick" Jake Locker go???

As for Jaworski, he's usually solid. But he's been caught lying...on tape...regarding his assessment of Manziel. A few short months ago he said that he wouldn't draft Manziel in the first 3 rounds. Now, most draft experts agree that J Football is the second coming. So as to not completely ruin his credibility, he now claims he only viewed 2 game tapes. Nice try Jaws.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1607315 wrote:http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/2/17/3998482/2013-nfl-draft-how-accurate-are-the-experts-mel-kiper-jr-among-the

I know you're impossible to reason with, so I'm not going to try. However, mock drafts in general are pretty inaccurate. Yes, Kiper has missed some big picks and had some complete bombs. He also happens to be one of the more consistently accurate analysts (not that it means much because they all miss well over 50%).

Footwedge;1607523 wrote:If you don't understand the value in doing whatever it takes to land Manziel, well then you're right, I can't be reasoned with.

It's been 20 plus years since the Browns got the draft right. If they think like you do, then they will blow it once again.

DeyDurkie5;1607546 wrote:I'll bet you a lifetime ban that the browns don't take jff at number 4

Footwedge;1607623 wrote:You're right, they need to package something and move up to get him.

Footwedge;1607623 wrote:You're right, they need to package something and move up to get him. I think Farmer is too stupid to do it.

Al Bundy;1607779 wrote:Just for lulz, what would you trade to move up to the first pick?

Failwedge;1607792 wrote:Pick6 needs to know that TP was trades to Seattle for a seventh round draft choice. He should be catching footballs, not throwing them...especially in the red zone...unstoppable. But back go Johnny Willie Manning Hayes (throws like Manning, runs like Hayes)...he's going to the Texans. Do they really want Ryan Fitzpatrick running that team? No brainer.

Footwedge;1607792 wrote:Pick6 needs to know that TP was trades to Seattle for a seventh round draft choice. He should be catching footballs, not throwing them...especially in the red zone...unstoppable. But back go Johnny Willie Manning Hayes (throws like Manning, runs like Hayes)...he's going to the Texans. Do they really want Ryan Fitzpatrick running that team? No brainer.

jmog;1607832 wrote:Did you just call out someone else for their predictions being wrong?

Do we all need to link the "Breowns will make the playoffs" thread?

Footwedge;1607313 wrote:Mow I know that you don't follow sports very closely. Kiper has shown absolutely no ability to analyze players. The Animal House guys laugh their asses off on his record. For example, where did Kiper's "#1 overall pick" Jake Locker go???

As for Jaworski, he's usually solid. But he's been caught lying...on tape...regarding his assessment of Manziel. A few short months ago he said that he wouldn't draft Manziel in the first 3 rounds. Now, most draft experts agree that J Football is the second coming. So as to not completely ruin his credibility, he now claims he only viewed 2 game tapes. Nice try Jaws.

like_that;1608043 wrote:I'm more ready for the draft so FW can shut the fuck up and we can get back to having legitimate discussion on the browns.