posted by justincredible

It’s fully in their court. I’m either a remote employee or I’m not an employee. 

this may be exactly what they're expecting. maybe they wanted to trim back some of the workforce and realized this would be a way to shed some people without laying off anybody.

i have to report to the office once a week (about a 70 mile commute, one way). i could probably choke down two or three times a week, but any more than that and i'd leave.

Job has been better and it’s less time not being track or XC season. Next year will be a nice pay bump. I haven’t had a pay step since year 23 and next year will be Step 27, plus I’ll have my masters +30 completed which puts me on the last pay scale and we are due a nice raise this upcoming contract.

I think I have 4 more years.

posted by friendfromlowry

I honestly think I’d prefer to stay on night shift vs second shift. But the rest of it sounds great. 

Yeah, I'm a little worried about adjusting. But I took up the program to advance, aaaaaaaaand getting every weekend off was an irresistible prospect. And I'll still be working part of my shift with my ER buds; only now I will be more focused on partnering with specific credentialed nurses like the SANE nurses (for those that aren't familiar those are the sexual assault nurse examiners). 

At any rate, no risk it no biscuit!

posted by MontyBrunswick

this may be exactly what they're expecting. maybe they wanted to trim back some of the workforce and realized this would be a way to shed some people without laying off anybody.

I know that's likely the case for some places, but it's definitely not the case here. We have funding and are hiring a lot of people, and losing anyone from my team would be a huge blow to the goals of the company.

posted by justincredible

I know that's likely the case for some places, but it's definitely not the case here. We have funding and are hiring a lot of people, and losing anyone from my team would be a huge blow to the goals of the company.

Wonder who made the decision, because HR is mostly useless in a lot of instances. 

I slightly misspoke in my main post when I said HR people. We have one HR person that was just hired. The other person is our office manager. I'm wondering if the HR person came in and said "we should bring everyone into the office full time to build a culture!" and the CEO said ok.

posted by iclfan2

Wonder who made the decision, because HR is mostly useless in a lot of instances. 

I take great offense to this. 

posted by justincredible

Not that it matters, but 20-25 minutes it takes to get downtown. I worked in the office 90% of the time pre covid, but that was a different company and I was hired as a remote employee here. 

It’s fully in their court. I’m either a remote employee or I’m not an employee. 

Is working remote stated in your offer and/or contract? 

posted by Automatik

Is working remote stated in your offer and/or contract? 

I don't have a contract.

In your offer, does it state remote for location? Mine does, but specifically states I need to be in a US market, which is why I asked. 

I wouldn't be too concerned. Stand your ground, you were hired on the premise of remote.

I'm not sure, honestly. But yeah, I'm not too worried about it. I can't imagine it would go over well with our extended remote team that I was let go because I didn't want to work in the office while they're all in different states/countries and now they will have additional work added to their plate to make up for it.

posted by justincredible

I slightly misspoke in my main post when I said HR people. We have one HR person that was just hired. The other person is our office manager. I'm wondering if the HR person came in and said "we should bring everyone into the office full time to build a culture!" and the CEO said ok.

Yes…I can picture this person

Came to the office today for an in-person meeting with our local team of engineers and managers (VP of tech is in from Chicago), and yeah, the big boss is serious serious about everyone coming in every day. 

posted by justincredible

Came to the office today for an in-person meeting with our local team of engineers and managers (VP of tech is in from Chicago), and yeah, the big boss is serious serious about everyone coming in every day. 

Did the big boss have reasons you didn’t consider?

Nope, he wasn't in the office today. But the 8 of us in the meeting are all in agreement that it's a poorly thought out idea that could have pretty bad consequences for the company. The 2 managers have attempted to talk to him about it, as well as another VP that is part of our extended team. Another VP told us to just not come in, he doesn't think he'd fire us.

Our managers are convinced he listened to a podcast that said this was the way to go to improve productivity, so I'm not sure he really gave them a convincing argument for his decision. When they pushed back and said the team might lose two members with very important skillsets he responded with something to the effect of "they'll get used to it and end up loving it." 

We'll see how it goes, I have until January 6th before the mandate goes into effect. I think the other guy is going to leave regardless of how it plays out. I'm willing to let things ride for a bit and see how far I can push the issue. I am "happy" (willing) to go in 4-5 times a month. Depending on what I'm working on, some weeks would be zero days, but some could be two days. 

If you get fired you’ll have more time to fix this place up (get more hot chicks)

Yeah, this isn't going to work out.

You going to quit or let them fire you?

I threw an app at a former employer recently. The role is pretty unrelated to my skillset but I think I have a chance anyways because they loved me there.

I've pretty much decided on a timeline for leaving on my own terms unless they decide to fire me first (doubtful).

I've adjusted my original timeline. 

posted by justincredible

I've adjusted my original timeline. 

Need some details, what are they FAFO about?

Nothing really changed from the company side of things, I just realized sitting here on a mostly empty floor staring at a computer screen, instead of in my comfortable chair at home with my dog running around, that I'm not going to last as long as I originally planned. 

The other guy on my team that basically has the same issues with this as I do didn't come in today. Of course I did, like a little b*tch.

posted by justincredible

Nothing really changed from the company side of things, I just realized sitting here on a mostly empty floor staring at a computer screen, instead of in my comfortable chair at home with my dog running around, that I'm not going to last as long as I originally planned. 

The other guy on my team that basically has the same issues with this as I do didn't come in today. Of course I did, like a little b*tch.

You can say bitch on the internet.

Also, I had a similar epiphany a few weeks ago. I was so-so on my role but not enough to do anything about it. I found myself sitting in a relatively uneventful meeting when it hit me like a ton of bricks that I should probably just leave and go find something else.

It didn't even have a specific event that spurred the feelings (like yours). It was just an abrupt feeling of "yeah, this is enough for me".

It do be like that sometimes.

I think I mentioned this before, but I really like everyone on my team that I work with on a day to day basis. But the work itself just isn't doing it for me. Add in the nonsense of forcing the locals into the office full time and the decision was pretty much made.

I did struggle with the thought of not having a new job lined up before leaving, but it kinda hit me over the holidays that there's a zero percent chance I'll ever be homeless or go hungry no matter how long I'm out of a job. That removed all of the anxiety I had for just quitting whenever it got to that point. I'm very good at what I do and have a ton of experience so I'm positive I'll find something eventually, I'm just going to be a lot more picky than I was when I took this job in June.