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CenterBHSFan

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 12:08 PM
posted by Devils Advocate

I agree on the dings, but she had her finger on the Cheeto button, and she was pushin it like it was a pez dispenser. She also managed not to present herself like a giggling teen watching a porn for the first time.

The winners here were the people who didn’t watch it 

To be fair she got away without answering a handful of questions and the mods never pressed her on it in the way they did with Trump. So that would make anybody feel less defensive and more confident. She only does the laughing stuff when she is on uneven ground and needs audience participation. 

And how many times did they fact check her? Anybody know?

Dr Winston O'Boogie

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 12:33 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

To be fair she got away without answering a handful of questions and the mods never pressed her on it in the way they did with Trump. So that would make anybody feel less defensive and more confident. She only does the laughing stuff when she is on uneven ground and needs audience participation. 

And how many times did they fact check her? Anybody know?

I thought the moderators were not bad.  Both of them got questions they did not answer at all.  They called her out on he changing positions.  


I know no one ever seems to be happy with the moderators at these things.  But in all, I thought these two weren't bad.

geeblock

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 12:44 PM
posted by iclfan2

There are plenty of articles stating that. But how can they possibly know that if cities don’t report crime based on citizenship? It’s just an educated guess at that point. And even if they do commit crimes at a lower rate, it is still an increase in the absolute number of crimes, which is still an issue since it is avoidable. 


If there is no evidence of their crimes how do you know they are committing crimes? 


iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:06 PM
posted by geeblock

If there is no evidence of their crimes how do you know they are committing crimes? 


Bc I live in reality and have Twitter? There is plenty of evidence of crimes, but if not reflected in reporting used to write about immigrant crime rates it is useless. 

There was just an article where a cop says he guesses 75% of his calls in NYC are for illegals. Quit being so obtuse. 

Lot of interviews with Springfield citizens coming out too, the picture isn’t as rosy as you and ptown tried painting it. But probably accurate they didn’t eat someone’s cat. 


CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:17 PM

Spreading some racism ;)

iclfan2

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:22 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I thought the moderators were not bad.  Both of them got questions they did not answer at all.  They called her out on he changing positions.  


I know no one ever seems to be happy with the moderators at these things.  But in all, I thought these two weren't bad.

They fact checked only Trump, twice incorrectly, and let Kamala bluntly retell lies like the Charlottesville fine people on both sides and bloodbath, amongst others. Trying to play fact checker on a broadcast is stupid. Come out with the articles fact checking after the debate like every other time. Shocking for me to admit that CNN was way better. 

But I’m not pretending they were the reason Trump goes off on tangents instead of actually being able to make good points.


Automatik

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:27 PM
posted by iclfan2

Bc I live in reality and have Twitter? There is plenty of evidence of crimes, but if not reflected in reporting used to write about immigrant crime rates it is useless. 

There was just an article where a cop says he guesses 75% of his calls in NYC are for illegals. Quit being so obtuse. 

Lot of interviews with Springfield citizens coming out too, the picture isn’t as rosy as you and ptown tried painting it. But probably accurate they didn’t eat someone’s cat. 


Twitter is a cesspool of bullshit. 

How about those Kamala earpiece earrings? 

iclfan2

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:34 PM
posted by Automatik

Twitter is a cesspool of bullshit. 

How about those Kamala earpiece earrings? 

Posting articles of illegals committing crimes is pretty valid I’d say. Of course there are plenty of conspiracy theory’s too, which is why I didn’t post the Springfield shit earlier too bc it sounded too crazy. 


Automatik

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:39 PM

I take most X posts with a grain of salt. It's gone to shit, but there's a lot of truth to the Aurora madness. It's been going for a while....way longer than the media has been leading on. 

Also my gf is Venezuelan. Her fam is pissed about all of it. "Gives them a bad name." I feel bad for the constant bashing considering 98% of her family/friends are here legally.  

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:52 PM
posted by Automatik

Twitter is a cesspool of bullshit. 

How about those Kamala earpiece earrings? 

Wait, what? Is that what Twitter is on about? lol

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:56 PM
posted by Automatik

I take most X posts with a grain of salt. It's gone to shit, but there's a lot of truth to the Aurora madness. It's been going for a while....way longer than the media has been leading on. 

Also my gf is Venezuelan. Her fam is pissed about all of it. "Gives them a bad name." I feel bad for the constant bashing considering 98% of her family/friends are here legally.  

I've tried to look into it somewhat superficially. There is nothing I can find that tells the story of what is really happening with that clip of a bunch of guys, some with guns, climbing up stairs and going into an apt.  

It's probably going to be one of those stories without conclusion.

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 1:57 PM

Trump was fact checked 5 times and Kamala was never fact checked.


Automatik

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 2:10 PM

Aurora is the hood, well parts of it. 

Vzla fuckheads basically took over an apartment complex and the mayor/police have been fiddle fucking around. 

I'd suggest SWAT roll in, round up and deport the shit out of all of them. 

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BRF

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 2:12 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie



I know no one ever seems to be happy with the moderators at these things.  But in all, I thought these two weren't bad.

I agree. I am a fan of David Muir. 

Devils Advocate

Brudda o da bomber

5,440 posts
Wed, Sep 11, 2024 2:21 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Trump was fact checked 5 times and Kamala was never fact checked.


I didn’t keep a score count, but this seems reasonable. However, did they fact check him or call bullshit on him for the eating pet’s tirade, or the aborting babies after birth diatribe.

They both lied, but Trump flat out told some whoppers. Most of the rest told on both sides were just cheese burgers.


Heretic

Son of the Sun

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 2:28 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Wait, what? Is that what Twitter is on about? lol

Hilariously, yes. A number of accounts suddenly started posting rumors that Kamala's earrings were actually this brand of earpiece earrings that were feeding her answers because of a vague similarity in appearance. The sort of thing that makes me think she must have "won" the debate in the view of the public if those dolts are that desperate to muddy the waters.

The great thing is that this is only the second funniest right-wing Twitter thing of the past 48 hours or so. Someone decided to ride this whole "THEY'RE EATING PETS!!!!!" stuff as far as it could go. I've seen AI pics/vids that are just awesome in that "well, that's not gonna stop the 'they're weird' line the Ds have going" way. My current favorite is a pic of Trump in a suit holding a big gun, riding a giant housecat, leading an army of smaller cats. There's also a vid of him holding a cat and running.

We are truly living in a time. What sort of time, I'm not sure...but it has me 50/50 between being afraid and laughing uncontrollably, so that's something!

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 2:35 PM
posted by Devils Advocate

I didn’t keep a score count, but this seems reasonable. However, did they fact check him or call bullshit on him for the eating pet’s tirade, or the aborting babies after birth diatribe.

They both lied, but Trump flat out told some whoppers. Most of the rest told on both sides were just cheese burgers.


Oh please, DA.

You can be fair and still admit to the truth of things. And the fact that the mods never fact checked her on things like Russiagate, both sides and IVF is just pointing out the obvious.

And I promise you, you will still be a fair person, and can still hate Trump, by just admitting to simple truths. 

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 2:39 PM
posted by Heretic

My current favorite is a pic of Trump in a suit holding a big gun, riding a giant housecat, leading an army of smaller cats. There's also a vid of him holding a cat and running.

Thats hilarious!

BR1986FB

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 3:15 PM
posted by Automatik

I take most X posts with a grain of salt. It's gone to shit, but there's a lot of truth to the Aurora madness. It's been going for a while....way longer than the media has been leading on. 

Also my gf is Venezuelan. Her fam is pissed about all of it. "Gives them a bad name." I feel bad for the constant bashing considering 98% of her family/friends are here legally.  

The people I know, who did it the right way (got citizenship legally), are pissed about the illegals and want them deported.

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CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 3:47 PM

Well, DeWine is sending troopers and money to Springfield to help cope with the incompetency of the federal government.

BR1986FB

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 3:59 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Well, DeWine is sending troopers and money to Springfield to help cope with the incompetency of the federal government.

There are still people calling into radio stations swearing their migrant neighbors are BBQing cats and have called the cops on them. 

After rethinking this, I call bullshit because these migrants are probably eating better than us with their freeloader government assistance checks they're getting. No need to go "old school" and fry up a feline.

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Devils Advocate

Brudda o da bomber

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 4:02 PM

Hey, if you can grab the pussy, eat the pussy!

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Automatik

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 4:02 PM
posted by BR1986FB

The people I know, who did it the right way (got citizenship legally), are pissed about the illegals and want them deported.

Legally is a loose term regarding most Venezuelan migrants. The OGs who came most likely were a mix of entering with a visa, overstaying, then claiming political asylum or just giving yourself up at the border and claiming asylum right then and there. I guess the latter would be deemed illegal, but then once you get asylum you have legal status and SS# and work permit are a few months away. My GF's family all entered via option 1 ~4 years ago, but some (the ones who didn't give a fuck or couldn't get a visa) went with option 2.

TPS opened up a whole new can of worms allowing Venezuelans already here to claim family members and grant them entry, if they declare they can take care of them financially. Again, "legal." 

Not saying you, but the majority of people spouting off about immigration, migrant criminals, blah blah, don't understand the nuances of the situation(s). 

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 4:32 PM

I know when I was in Ca. and hiring people, I had to get a lawyer to school me on who I could legally hire and all that. The hiring practices back then were akin to playing landmine because the fakes (ID's and Visa's) were SO close to the real deal. I can only imagine the level of sophistication there is currently. Glad I don't have to hopscotch my way through all of that anymore!

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

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Wed, Sep 11, 2024 4:37 PM

That damn Heretic got me looking up some of these memes

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