Bigred1995 wrote:

sonofsam wrote: How many of the people on that list actually received scholarship offers from those schools? How many pick those schools and chose to continue to their football career without scholarship? I saw quite a few because a lot of those colleges were D3 and higher. Just wondering if you had an actual number? Numbers seem to be Big Red's specialty... How many of those people on that list were transfers into Big Red?

Another question, what about the kid from East Springfield that grew up with Big Red? His father teaches there correct? He was a ball boy, busted his rear, was a product of open enrollment and had a ride with dad... He even has a championship ring as a water boy and totally dedicated himself to Big Red football, so why is the incoming HC lineman getting a look over him? So many question, NO answers.

I have an honest question SOS; why does it matter if any or all of the people on that list received a scholarship or not?

The people on that list graduated high school and went on to participate at the next level (whether it be D3 or higher). I'm on that list, I played football for Big Red, but decided to go to a division III school and wrestle! I actually participated at the next level, what about you? Where did you go to college and what did you do if you went? The minimum requirements to be an EMT are what; a GED? Whether or not the people on that list received a scholarship or not doesn't matter, but the fact that most of them on that list probably accomplished a hell of a lot more than you have academically and athletically does matter! So before you start to degrade the accomplishment of the the people on that list, maybe you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself exactly what did you accomplish!

I have accomplished enough in life to know when someone is getting defensive about getting called out. Do you wanna know why it matters? Because people need to be informed that JUST by transferring to Big Red, it does NOT mean you get a scholarship. Heck, except for one or two extremely gifted athletes that we already determined would have received the same scholarship if they stayed where they were... Why even go there? Why all the talk about Big Red football gets scholarships? I agree 100% that there have been some amazing players come out of Big Red... But not many through open enrollment!

All this talk about D3. What kind of scholarships do they offer? You might be able to get your books paid for... Fact is D3 does not offer scholarships, only D2 or D1. If you want to talk about how many open enrollment players had their books paid for, well then there have been quite a few...

sonofsam wrote:

Bigred1995 wrote:

sonofsam wrote: How many of the people on that list actually received scholarship offers from those schools? How many pick those schools and chose to continue to their football career without scholarship? I saw quite a few because a lot of those colleges were D3 and higher. Just wondering if you had an actual number? Numbers seem to be Big Red's specialty... How many of those people on that list were transfers into Big Red?

Another question, what about the kid from East Springfield that grew up with Big Red? His father teaches there correct? He was a ball boy, busted his rear, was a product of open enrollment and had a ride with dad... He even has a championship ring as a water boy and totally dedicated himself to Big Red football, so why is the incoming HC lineman getting a look over him? So many question, NO answers.

I have an honest question SOS; why does it matter if any or all of the people on that list received a scholarship or not?

The people on that list graduated high school and went on to participate at the next level (whether it be D3 or higher). I'm on that list, I played football for Big Red, but decided to go to a division III school and wrestle! I actually participated at the next level, what about you? Where did you go to college and what did you do if you went? The minimum requirements to be an EMT are what; a GED? Whether or not the people on that list received a scholarship or not doesn't matter, but the fact that most of them on that list probably accomplished a hell of a lot more than you have academically and athletically does matter! So before you start to degrade the accomplishment of the the people on that list, maybe you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself exactly what did you accomplish!

I have accomplished enough in life to know when someone is getting defensive about getting called out. Do you wanna know why it matters? Because people need to be informed that JUST by transferring to Big Red, it does NOT mean you get a scholarship. Heck, except for one or two extremely gifted athletes that we already determined would have received the same scholarship if they stayed where they were... Why even go there? Why all the talk about Big Red football gets scholarships? I agree 100% that there have been some amazing players come out of Big Red... But not many through open enrollment!

All this talk about D3. What kind of scholarships do they offer? You might be able to get your books paid for... Fact is D3 does not offer scholarships, only D2 or D1. If you want to talk about how many open enrollment players had their books paid for, well then there have been quite a few...

I think most posters on here know that transferring to Big Red does not guarantee a division 1 or 2 or even a 3 scholarship. That said, the hope is that by more exposure, more scouts and/or coaches will notice these players.
It's not true that most athletes would get noticed as much at some of the other schools; the bigger the arena the more exposure. Sure some coaches will write and send films, but look up at the top level at Canton or Paul Brown stadiums and check out the amount of scouts and coaches watching the talent on the field. How many schools have that exposure?
I have a nephew who transferred to B.R from another local public school several years ago. The family knew he was not a great athlete. He got almost no playing time where he was but got a lot of mop up playing time at B.R. He still remembers his biggest thrill of hitting a starting Massillon tailback and sending the kid to the bench.
Good or bad, being a part of a winning program is still the big draw.
Cheers

SUPER787 wrote:

sonofsam wrote:

Bigred1995 wrote:

sonofsam wrote: How many of the people on that list actually received scholarship offers from those schools? How many pick those schools and chose to continue to their football career without scholarship? I saw quite a few because a lot of those colleges were D3 and higher. Just wondering if you had an actual number? Numbers seem to be Big Red's specialty... How many of those people on that list were transfers into Big Red?

Another question, what about the kid from East Springfield that grew up with Big Red? His father teaches there correct? He was a ball boy, busted his rear, was a product of open enrollment and had a ride with dad... He even has a championship ring as a water boy and totally dedicated himself to Big Red football, so why is the incoming HC lineman getting a look over him? So many question, NO answers.

I have an honest question SOS; why does it matter if any or all of the people on that list received a scholarship or not?

The people on that list graduated high school and went on to participate at the next level (whether it be D3 or higher). I'm on that list, I played football for Big Red, but decided to go to a division III school and wrestle! I actually participated at the next level, what about you? Where did you go to college and what did you do if you went? The minimum requirements to be an EMT are what; a GED? Whether or not the people on that list received a scholarship or not doesn't matter, but the fact that most of them on that list probably accomplished a hell of a lot more than you have academically and athletically does matter! So before you start to degrade the accomplishment of the the people on that list, maybe you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself exactly what did you accomplish!

I have accomplished enough in life to know when someone is getting defensive about getting called out. Do you wanna know why it matters? Because people need to be informed that JUST by transferring to Big Red, it does NOT mean you get a scholarship. Heck, except for one or two extremely gifted athletes that we already determined would have received the same scholarship if they stayed where they were... Why even go there? Why all the talk about Big Red football gets scholarships? I agree 100% that there have been some amazing players come out of Big Red... But not many through open enrollment!

All this talk about D3. What kind of scholarships do they offer? You might be able to get your books paid for... Fact is D3 does not offer scholarships, only D2 or D1. If you want to talk about how many open enrollment players had their books paid for, well then there have been quite a few...

I think most posters on here know that transferring to Big Red does not guarantee a division 1 or 2 or even a 3 scholarship. That said, the hope is that by more exposure, more scouts and/or coaches will notice these players.
It's not true that most athletes would get noticed as much at some of the other schools; the bigger the arena the more exposure. Sure some coaches will write and send films, but look up at the top level at Canton or Paul Brown stadiums and check out the amount of scouts and coaches watching the talent on the field. How many schools have that exposure?
I have a nephew who transferred to B.R from another local public school several years ago. The family knew he was not a great athlete. He got almost no playing time where he was but got a lot of mop up playing time at B.R. He still remembers his biggest thrill of hitting a starting Massillon tailback and sending the kid to the bench.
Good or bad, being a part of a winning program is still the big draw.
Cheers

congrats to your nephew for making history.

Hope is bigger than pride. Thats what you are saying? If you already knew he wasn't a great athlete, why did you send him to Big Red? So he could ride the coat tails of the athletes who were good and could say he was part of something special he did not to attribute to? Sounds like mommy and daddy are fans of winners and wanted little johnny to se what winning is like. Where did little Johnny go to school?

sonofsam wrote:

SUPER787 wrote:

sonofsam wrote:

Bigred1995 wrote:

sonofsam wrote: How many of the people on that list actually received scholarship offers from those schools? How many pick those schools and chose to continue to their football career without scholarship? I saw quite a few because a lot of those colleges were D3 and higher. Just wondering if you had an actual number? Numbers seem to be Big Red's specialty... How many of those people on that list were transfers into Big Red?

Another question, what about the kid from East Springfield that grew up with Big Red? His father teaches there correct? He was a ball boy, busted his rear, was a product of open enrollment and had a ride with dad... He even has a championship ring as a water boy and totally dedicated himself to Big Red football, so why is the incoming HC lineman getting a look over him? So many question, NO answers.

I have an honest question SOS; why does it matter if any or all of the people on that list received a scholarship or not?

The people on that list graduated high school and went on to participate at the next level (whether it be D3 or higher). I'm on that list, I played football for Big Red, but decided to go to a division III school and wrestle! I actually participated at the next level, what about you? Where did you go to college and what did you do if you went? The minimum requirements to be an EMT are what; a GED? Whether or not the people on that list received a scholarship or not doesn't matter, but the fact that most of them on that list probably accomplished a hell of a lot more than you have academically and athletically does matter! So before you start to degrade the accomplishment of the the people on that list, maybe you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself exactly what did you accomplish!

I have accomplished enough in life to know when someone is getting defensive about getting called out. Do you wanna know why it matters? Because people need to be informed that JUST by transferring to Big Red, it does NOT mean you get a scholarship. Heck, except for one or two extremely gifted athletes that we already determined would have received the same scholarship if they stayed where they were... Why even go there? Why all the talk about Big Red football gets scholarships? I agree 100% that there have been some amazing players come out of Big Red... But not many through open enrollment!

All this talk about D3. What kind of scholarships do they offer? You might be able to get your books paid for... Fact is D3 does not offer scholarships, only D2 or D1. If you want to talk about how many open enrollment players had their books paid for, well then there have been quite a few...

I think most posters on here know that transferring to Big Red does not guarantee a division 1 or 2 or even a 3 scholarship. That said, the hope is that by more exposure, more scouts and/or coaches will notice these players.
It's not true that most athletes would get noticed as much at some of the other schools; the bigger the arena the more exposure. Sure some coaches will write and send films, but look up at the top level at Canton or Paul Brown stadiums and check out the amount of scouts and coaches watching the talent on the field. How many schools have that exposure?
I have a nephew who transferred to B.R from another local public school several years ago. The family knew he was not a great athlete. He got almost no playing time where he was but got a lot of mop up playing time at B.R. He still remembers his biggest thrill of hitting a starting Massillon tailback and sending the kid to the bench.
Good or bad, being a part of a winning program is still the big draw.
Cheers

congrats to your nephew for making history.

Hope is bigger than pride. Thats what you are saying? If you already knew he wasn't a great athlete, why did you send him to Big Red? So he could ride the coat tails of the athletes who were good and could say he was part of something special he did not to attribute to? Sounds like mommy and daddy are fans of winners and wanted little johnny to se what winning is like. Where did little Johnny go to school?

SUPER787 wrote:

sonofsam wrote:

SUPER787 wrote:

sonofsam wrote:

Bigred1995 wrote:

sonofsam wrote: How many of the people on that list actually received scholarship offers from those schools? How many pick those schools and chose to continue to their football career without scholarship? I saw quite a few because a lot of those colleges were D3 and higher. Just wondering if you had an actual number? Numbers seem to be Big Red's specialty... How many of those people on that list were transfers into Big Red?

Another question, what about the kid from East Springfield that grew up with Big Red? His father teaches there correct? He was a ball boy, busted his rear, was a product of open enrollment and had a ride with dad... He even has a championship ring as a water boy and totally dedicated himself to Big Red football, so why is the incoming HC lineman getting a look over him? So many question, NO answers.

I have an honest question SOS; why does it matter if any or all of the people on that list received a scholarship or not?

The people on that list graduated high school and went on to participate at the next level (whether it be D3 or higher). I'm on that list, I played football for Big Red, but decided to go to a division III school and wrestle! I actually participated at the next level, what about you? Where did you go to college and what did you do if you went? The minimum requirements to be an EMT are what; a GED? Whether or not the people on that list received a scholarship or not doesn't matter, but the fact that most of them on that list probably accomplished a hell of a lot more than you have academically and athletically does matter! So before you start to degrade the accomplishment of the the people on that list, maybe you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself exactly what did you accomplish!

I have accomplished enough in life to know when someone is getting defensive about getting called out. Do you wanna know why it matters? Because people need to be informed that JUST by transferring to Big Red, it does NOT mean you get a scholarship. Heck, except for one or two extremely gifted athletes that we already determined would have received the same scholarship if they stayed where they were... Why even go there? Why all the talk about Big Red football gets scholarships? I agree 100% that there have been some amazing players come out of Big Red... But not many through open enrollment!

All this talk about D3. What kind of scholarships do they offer? You might be able to get your books paid for... Fact is D3 does not offer scholarships, only D2 or D1. If you want to talk about how many open enrollment players had their books paid for, well then there have been quite a few...

I think most posters on here know that transferring to Big Red does not guarantee a division 1 or 2 or even a 3 scholarship. That said, the hope is that by more exposure, more scouts and/or coaches will notice these players.
It's not true that most athletes would get noticed as much at some of the other schools; the bigger the arena the more exposure. Sure some coaches will write and send films, but look up at the top level at Canton or Paul Brown stadiums and check out the amount of scouts and coaches watching the talent on the field. How many schools have that exposure?
I have a nephew who transferred to B.R from another local public school several years ago. The family knew he was not a great athlete. He got almost no playing time where he was but got a lot of mop up playing time at B.R. He still remembers his biggest thrill of hitting a starting Massillon tailback and sending the kid to the bench.
Good or bad, being a part of a winning program is still the big draw.
Cheers

congrats to your nephew for making history.

Hope is bigger than pride. Thats what you are saying? If you already knew he wasn't a great athlete, why did you send him to Big Red? So he could ride the coat tails of the athletes who were good and could say he was part of something special he did not to attribute to? Sounds like mommy and daddy are fans of winners and wanted little johnny to se what winning is like. Where did little Johnny go to school?

If you are going to respond to any of my posts, please learn how to read. Where in my post did it say I sent him to B.R.? His mother raised 5 children when his father died and all were graduated from high school.
He wanted to go there because one of his uncles was an all ohio player there and the kid looked up to him.
He was indeed part of something special and earned every minute of his time time on that team.
I see why the posters on this board avoid and make fun of you. I also shall avoid you in the future.
Cheers

SOS thinks he is a dictator and can tell everyone where they should go to school...even though he was a transfer....pot calling kettle, pot calling kettle.....come in kettle!

sonofsam wrote: I have accomplished enough in life to know when someone is getting defensive about getting called out.

So in other words, you haven't accomplished anything and you try to compensate for that by coming on to these boards and belittle everyone else because of that! Congratulations!!!

sonofsam wrote: Do you wanna know why it matters? Because people need to be informed that JUST by transferring to Big Red, it does NOT mean you get a scholarship. Heck, except for one or two extremely gifted athletes that we already determined would have received the same scholarship if they stayed where they were...

Show me where anyone states that simply by going to Big Red a student is guaranteed a scholarship? What I'm reading is that people are saying that their chances for exposure are higher than what would be at most other area schools.
FACT: In the past 20 years Big Red has played on average 12 games a year!
FACT: In the past 10 years Big Red has played on average just over 13 games a year!
FACT: In the past 5 years Big Red has played on average over 14 games a year!

sonofsam wrote: Why even go there? Why all the talk about Big Red football gets scholarships? I agree 100% that there have been some amazing players come out of Big Red... But not many through open enrollment!

More games equal more exposure! As I mentioned before, Big Red plays, on average, more games a year than other schools in the area, so that extra opportunity to get your name in the paper, add a few more segments to your highlight tape, or to increase yours stats, all increases your chances of getting noticed and Big Red, on average, plays more games than anyone else in the area!

sonofsam wrote: All this talk about D3. What kind of scholarships do they offer? You might be able to get your books paid for... Fact is D3 does not offer scholarships, only D2 or D1. If you want to talk about how many open enrollment players had their books paid for, well then there have been quite a few...

Just what do you know about what you can get a D3 college; hell, what do you know about college and participating in a sport at one at all? Until you indicate that you went to college and/or participated in a varsity sport at said college, I'm going to assume you didn't go and that makes you sufficiently unqualified to state what colleges (at any level) has to offer (Jeff Tech, JCC, Eastern Gateway, or whatever it's called now does not count)!

As far as D3 colleges go, no they don't offer athletic scholarships, but they do have various other types of scholarships; and if you're a good enough athlete they have no problem putting together a package that will help with the cost of going to their institution!

Bigred1995 wrote:

FACT: In the past 20 years Big Red has played on average 12 games a year!
FACT: In the past 10 years Big Red has played on average just over 13 games a year!
FACT: In the past 5 years Big Red has played on average over 14 games a year!

More games equal more exposure! As I mentioned before, Big Red plays, on average, more games a year than other schools in the area, so that extra opportunity to get your name in the paper, add a few more segments to your highlight tape, or to increase yours stats, all increases your chances of getting noticed and Big Red, on average, plays more games than anyone else in the area!

And BOOM goes the Dynamite. Right in SonofSam's face, haha. Even if you don't get a scholarship or ever play football again, given the choice of playing big games against Buckeye Local and Martins Ferry or playing in front of 10-12000 against Massillon, Mooney, Alter etc. which would be more exciting???

Who can fault someone for wanting to maximize their personal experiences and play for superior coaching???

Only SOS (who apparently is a transfer himself???). HAHAHA.

So, why did you go and transfer from your school to IC??? Lack of pride in your old school or what??? Are you just a hypocrite???

SUPER787 wrote:

sonofsam wrote:

Bigred1995 wrote:

sonofsam wrote: How many of the people on that list actually received scholarship offers from those schools? How many pick those schools and chose to continue to their football career without scholarship? I saw quite a few because a lot of those colleges were D3 and higher. Just wondering if you had an actual number? Numbers seem to be Big Red's specialty... How many of those people on that list were transfers into Big Red?

Another question, what about the kid from East Springfield that grew up with Big Red? His father teaches there correct? He was a ball boy, busted his rear, was a product of open enrollment and had a ride with dad... He even has a championship ring as a water boy and totally dedicated himself to Big Red football, so why is the incoming HC lineman getting a look over him? So many question, NO answers.

I have an honest question SOS; why does it matter if any or all of the people on that list received a scholarship or not?

The people on that list graduated high school and went on to participate at the next level (whether it be D3 or higher). I'm on that list, I played football for Big Red, but decided to go to a division III school and wrestle! I actually participated at the next level, what about you? Where did you go to college and what did you do if you went? The minimum requirements to be an EMT are what; a GED? Whether or not the people on that list received a scholarship or not doesn't matter, but the fact that most of them on that list probably accomplished a hell of a lot more than you have academically and athletically does matter! So before you start to degrade the accomplishment of the the people on that list, maybe you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself exactly what did you accomplish!

I have accomplished enough in life to know when someone is getting defensive about getting called out. Do you wanna know why it matters? Because people need to be informed that JUST by transferring to Big Red, it does NOT mean you get a scholarship. Heck, except for one or two extremely gifted athletes that we already determined would have received the same scholarship if they stayed where they were... Why even go there? Why all the talk about Big Red football gets scholarships? I agree 100% that there have been some amazing players come out of Big Red... But not many through open enrollment!

All this talk about D3. What kind of scholarships do they offer? You might be able to get your books paid for... Fact is D3 does not offer scholarships, only D2 or D1. If you want to talk about how many open enrollment players had their books paid for, well then there have been quite a few...

I think most posters on here know that transferring to Big Red does not guarantee a division 1 or 2 or even a 3 scholarship. That said, the hope is that by more exposure, more scouts and/or coaches will notice these players.
It's not true that most athletes would get noticed as much at some of the other schools; the bigger the arena the more exposure. Sure some coaches will write and send films, but look up at the top level at Canton or Paul Brown stadiums and check out the amount of scouts and coaches watching the talent on the field. How many schools have that exposure?
I have a nephew who transferred to B.R from another local public school [size=xx-large]several years ago[/size]. The family knew he was not a great athlete. He got almost no playing time where he was but got a lot of mop up playing time at B.R. He still remembers his biggest thrill of hitting a starting Massillon tailback and sending the kid to the bench.
Good or bad, being a part of a winning program is still the big draw.
Cheers

Not trying to be a doubter, but Massillon and Steubenville didn't play...."several years ago".

Unless you're talking about at the JV level.

skank wrote:

SUPER787 wrote:

sonofsam wrote:

Bigred1995 wrote:

sonofsam wrote: How many of the people on that list actually received scholarship offers from those schools? How many pick those schools and chose to continue to their football career without scholarship? I saw quite a few because a lot of those colleges were D3 and higher. Just wondering if you had an actual number? Numbers seem to be Big Red's specialty... How many of those people on that list were transfers into Big Red?

Another question, what about the kid from East Springfield that grew up with Big Red? His father teaches there correct? He was a ball boy, busted his rear, was a product of open enrollment and had a ride with dad... He even has a championship ring as a water boy and totally dedicated himself to Big Red football, so why is the incoming HC lineman getting a look over him? So many question, NO answers.

I have an honest question SOS; why does it matter if any or all of the people on that list received a scholarship or not?

The people on that list graduated high school and went on to participate at the next level (whether it be D3 or higher). I'm on that list, I played football for Big Red, but decided to go to a division III school and wrestle! I actually participated at the next level, what about you? Where did you go to college and what did you do if you went? The minimum requirements to be an EMT are what; a GED? Whether or not the people on that list received a scholarship or not doesn't matter, but the fact that most of them on that list probably accomplished a hell of a lot more than you have academically and athletically does matter! So before you start to degrade the accomplishment of the the people on that list, maybe you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself exactly what did you accomplish!

I have accomplished enough in life to know when someone is getting defensive about getting called out. Do you wanna know why it matters? Because people need to be informed that JUST by transferring to Big Red, it does NOT mean you get a scholarship. Heck, except for one or two extremely gifted athletes that we already determined would have received the same scholarship if they stayed where they were... Why even go there? Why all the talk about Big Red football gets scholarships? I agree 100% that there have been some amazing players come out of Big Red... But not many through open enrollment!

All this talk about D3. What kind of scholarships do they offer? You might be able to get your books paid for... Fact is D3 does not offer scholarships, only D2 or D1. If you want to talk about how many open enrollment players had their books paid for, well then there have been quite a few...

I think most posters on here know that transferring to Big Red does not guarantee a division 1 or 2 or even a 3 scholarship. That said, the hope is that by more exposure, more scouts and/or coaches will notice these players.
It's not true that most athletes would get noticed as much at some of the other schools; the bigger the arena the more exposure. Sure some coaches will write and send films, but look up at the top level at Canton or Paul Brown stadiums and check out the amount of scouts and coaches watching the talent on the field. How many schools have that exposure?
I have a nephew who transferred to B.R from another local public school [size=xx-large]several years ago[/size]. The family knew he was not a great athlete. He got almost no playing time where he was but got a lot of mop up playing time at B.R. He still remembers his biggest thrill of hitting a starting Massillon tailback and sending the kid to the bench.
Good or bad, being a part of a winning program is still the big draw.
Cheers

Not trying to be a doubter, but Massillon and Steubenville didn't play...."several years ago".

Unless you're talking about at the JV level.

SUPER787 wrote:

skank wrote:

SUPER787 wrote:

sonofsam wrote:

Bigred1995 wrote:

sonofsam wrote: How many of the people on that list actually received scholarship offers from those schools? How many pick those schools and chose to continue to their football career without scholarship? I saw quite a few because a lot of those colleges were D3 and higher. Just wondering if you had an actual number? Numbers seem to be Big Red's specialty... How many of those people on that list were transfers into Big Red?

Another question, what about the kid from East Springfield that grew up with Big Red? His father teaches there correct? He was a ball boy, busted his rear, was a product of open enrollment and had a ride with dad... He even has a championship ring as a water boy and totally dedicated himself to Big Red football, so why is the incoming HC lineman getting a look over him? So many question, NO answers.

I have an honest question SOS; why does it matter if any or all of the people on that list received a scholarship or not?

The people on that list graduated high school and went on to participate at the next level (whether it be D3 or higher). I'm on that list, I played football for Big Red, but decided to go to a division III school and wrestle! I actually participated at the next level, what about you? Where did you go to college and what did you do if you went? The minimum requirements to be an EMT are what; a GED? Whether or not the people on that list received a scholarship or not doesn't matter, but the fact that most of them on that list probably accomplished a hell of a lot more than you have academically and athletically does matter! So before you start to degrade the accomplishment of the the people on that list, maybe you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself exactly what did you accomplish!

I have accomplished enough in life to know when someone is getting defensive about getting called out. Do you wanna know why it matters? Because people need to be informed that JUST by transferring to Big Red, it does NOT mean you get a scholarship. Heck, except for one or two extremely gifted athletes that we already determined would have received the same scholarship if they stayed where they were... Why even go there? Why all the talk about Big Red football gets scholarships? I agree 100% that there have been some amazing players come out of Big Red... But not many through open enrollment!

All this talk about D3. What kind of scholarships do they offer? You might be able to get your books paid for... Fact is D3 does not offer scholarships, only D2 or D1. If you want to talk about how many open enrollment players had their books paid for, well then there have been quite a few...

I think most posters on here know that transferring to Big Red does not guarantee a division 1 or 2 or even a 3 scholarship. That said, the hope is that by more exposure, more scouts and/or coaches will notice these players.
It's not true that most athletes would get noticed as much at some of the other schools; the bigger the arena the more exposure. Sure some coaches will write and send films, but look up at the top level at Canton or Paul Brown stadiums and check out the amount of scouts and coaches watching the talent on the field. How many schools have that exposure?
I have a nephew who transferred to B.R from another local public school [size=xx-large]several years ago[/size]. The family knew he was not a great athlete. He got almost no playing time where he was but got a lot of mop up playing time at B.R. He still remembers his biggest thrill of hitting a starting Massillon tailback and sending the kid to the bench.
Good or bad, being a part of a winning program is still the big draw.
Cheers

Not trying to be a doubter, but Massillon and Steubenville didn't play...."several years ago".

Unless you're talking about at the JV level.

Yes I see what you mean. I do not remember the years exactly but I can find out. If you keep any old B.R.rosters, his name is Robrt Welling.
Cheers

Strapping Young Lad wrote:

Bigred1995 wrote:

FACT: In the past 20 years Big Red has played on average 12 games a year!
FACT: In the past 10 years Big Red has played on average just over 13 games a year!
FACT: In the past 5 years Big Red has played on average over 14 games a year!

More games equal more exposure! As I mentioned before, Big Red plays, on average, more games a year than other schools in the area, so that extra opportunity to get your name in the paper, add a few more segments to your highlight tape, or to increase yours stats, all increases your chances of getting noticed and Big Red, on average, plays more games than anyone else in the area!

And BOOM goes the Dynamite. Right in SonofSam's face, haha. Even if you don't get a scholarship or ever play football again, given the choice of playing big games against Buckeye Local and Martins Ferry or playing in front of 10-12000 against Massillon, Mooney, Alter etc. which would be more exciting???

Who can fault someone for wanting to maximize their personal experiences and play for superior coaching???

Only SOS (who apparently is a transfer himself???). HAHAHA.

So, why did you go and transfer from your school to IC??? Lack of pride in your old school or what??? Are you just a hypocrite???

Boom goes what? I am sorry i don't want to be associated with Big Red. Is there something wrong with that? They may love their school just the same as I do, but I didn't have and want to be there. Why I transferred to IC was discussed a LONG time ago and honestly its none of your business. I could care less how many games Big Red has played in the last 20 years, I could care less who went D1 or D3... The FACT of the matter was a question I asked about how many incoming transfers actually received D1 offers?!?! I am sure they like playing 12 games a year, I am sure they love playing in front of the fans, but fact of the matter is your ego is bigger than your pride and what exactly is it going to get you? Nothing but a D3 school that if you played your heart out where you were to begin with would pay for your books. Go boom somewhere else because although it gives you a cheap thrill, no one has actually answered the question of how many incoming transfers in the past 20 years have actually received D1 offers... The best answer I have seen to that question is BOOM right in your face haha?? Not sure what you mean by that.

No one wants you to be associated with Big Red, lol. How old are you??? You're this fired up about high school football in May??? And I don't mean fired up in like actually being a fan of. I mean fired up as in being an irrational, jealous hater.

You won't tell me why you transfered??? Ok. Then try to explain why it is okay for you to do so, but not someone else.

And what is the significance of the D1 scholarships to transfers??? What D1 scholarships did you recieve when you transfered to your new school if you don't mind me asking???

I don't care what school ya went to quit slamming the school you didn't go to. why must there be a poster who sees everything different? If the kids want to go to an open enrollment school who are you to blast them? Stay off the BR threads we do not come on the IC threads and blast you or your school. Its getting so tiring to read the same crap posted by you everyday SOS.

Give the kids a break who may want to go to college and may not have the money! It's their choice not yours. If you paid their way its another story!

The most ironic part of SOS is HE TRANSFERED SCHOOLS. What's up w/ this dude???

I guess whatever his reason was is A-Okay, but any other reason is just plain wrong. See anything wrong w/ this type of egocentric mindset, LMAO?!??!?!?

Some ppl. truly are CLUELESS.

sonofsam wrote: I am sorry i don't want to be associated with Big Red.

For someone that doesn't want anything to do with them, you sure did spend a lot of time on their threads. :huh:

BRfootball1 wrote: Stay off the BR threads we do not come on the IC threads and blast you or your school.

In his defense, one of IC's own and a couple BR fans did have a couple IC threads deleted. It has gone both ways.

Ok, goChiefs. but.......... lets count the threads SOS is on about BR. we understand he is not a follower but a hater of BR..... but then again, I think he is a closet follower and hates to admit it. I actually think he likes to read what he writes... give due where it is merited!

GoChiefs wrote:

sonofsam wrote: I am sorry i don't want to be associated with Big Red.

For someone that doesn't want anything to do with them, you sure did spend a lot of time on their threads. :huh:

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Strapping Young Lad wrote: The most ironic part of SOS is HE TRANSFERED SCHOOLS. What's up w/ this dude???

I guess whatever his reason was is A-Okay, but any other reason is just plain wrong. See anything wrong w/ this type of egocentric mindset, LMAO?!??!?!?

Some ppl. truly are CLUELESS.

I moved dude. Get over it.

Ohhhhh. You don't like people beating the dead horse of why you transfered. Again, IRONIC.

Amazing how people will attack your school (i.e. talking about how terrible our district is, we go to school in trailers, our principal has ties to Big Red) then once you attack them back and ask a valid question that they won't answer because the truth isn't what they want to hear, they start attacking that person. (i.e. attack them for posting here, accuse them of being jealous, attempting to place that person in an "unwanted" enviroment)

Its a good laugh. Really it is.

Strapping Young Lad wrote: Ohhhhh. You don't like people beating the dead horse of why you transfered. Again, IRONIC.

You made a big deal out of something that has no bearing on anything. Its not ironic, its not a dead horse... Just wonder how people that supposedly have the best education and football program the USA can offer can't remember squat that was already discussed.

That is ironic.

sonofsam wrote: and ask a valid question that they won't answer

Or..maybe it's b/c nobody knows/cares about the answer except you? Hell, I can't tell you who got scholarships 3 years ago from my alma mater! Yet, you want someone to answer what transfers in the history of a school someone has received scholarships? That's pretty ridiculous! Get over it.

sonofsam wrote:

Strapping Young Lad wrote: Ohhhhh. You don't like people beating the dead horse of why you transfered. Again, IRONIC.

You made a big deal out of something that has no bearing on anything. Its not ironic, its not a dead horse... Just wonder how people that supposedly have the best education and football program the USA can offer can't remember squat that was already discussed.

That is ironic.

I'm the one making a big deal about something that has no bearing on anything?????????? YOU ARE THE KING OF IRONY.