Spinoff: How long until someone is considered to be "American"?

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Mar 27, 2010 11:38 PM
I am 25% italian, 25% slovakian, 25% english, and 25% scotch-irish...so say the woman i marry and have kids with is 25 25 25 25 of whatever, that means my kids will be 1/8, 1/8. 1/8, etc. How long until everyone is so diluted that they will just be considered American?
Mar 27, 2010 11:38pm
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Mar 28, 2010 1:02 AM
better have a lot of kids lol.
Mar 28, 2010 1:02am
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Mar 28, 2010 1:07 AM
If your grandparents were born and raised in America, you're an America. I never get these people who take a ton of pride in being Irish/Italian when they've never even met someone who's BEEN to Ireland/Italy.
Mar 28, 2010 1:07am
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Mar 28, 2010 1:08 AM
no different then people claiming to be African American when they have NEVER been to Africa
Mar 28, 2010 1:08am
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Mar 28, 2010 1:12 AM
RelsonGracieBJJ wrote: no different then people claiming to be African American when they have NEVER been to Africa
African American has essentially become a substitute word for skin color, not much to do with heritage, and I've never seen a black person taking a ton of pride in their African heritage, more so the history of their people in the United States.

They were persecuted in this country pretty badly not 50 years ago, I'm not going to whine about them using whatever name they want.
Mar 28, 2010 1:12am
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Mar 28, 2010 1:13 AM
I am not whining.. I think that people are all human as should be treated as such..
Mar 28, 2010 1:13am
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Mar 28, 2010 1:27 AM
RelsonGracieBJJ wrote: I am not whining.. I think that people are all human as should be treated as such..
I agree.
Mar 28, 2010 1:27am
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Mar 28, 2010 1:37 AM
RelsonGracieBJJ wrote: no different then people claiming to be African American when they have NEVER been to Africa
THIS^^ Absolute perfect response.
Mar 28, 2010 1:37am
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Mar 28, 2010 2:35 AM
I are dumd.
Mar 28, 2010 2:35am
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Mar 28, 2010 2:49 AM
I Wear Pants wrote: Race/ethnic/religious/sexual orientation/whatever "pride" only leads to discrimination and violence. If people would just learn to be who they are and not who their parents, town, culture, etc wants them to be we'd be much better off.

What a completely FUCKED UP thought you just spewed out of your mouth.

So, If I believe in an ethnic group, that leads to discrimination and violence?
Mar 28, 2010 2:49am
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Mar 28, 2010 2:53 AM
Ghmothwdwhso wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote: Race/ethnic/religious/sexual orientation/whatever "pride" only leads to discrimination and violence. If people would just learn to be who they are and not who their parents, town, culture, etc wants them to be we'd be much better off.

What a completely FUCKED UP thought you just spewed out of your mouth.

So, If I believe in an ethnic group, that leads to discrimination and violence?
No, but what tends to happen is people who have a lot of pride in their whatever (race, culture, what have you) tend to say "look, we're different".

Which is the exact opposite of what most of the civil rights battles have been fought over. The moral of them has been "we're all people".

I just think the disparity is a little bit confusing, do people want to be different or the same? I'm not saying that people shouldn't continue to follow traditions or cultures or do their own thing. I just grow tired of people acting like their specific culture or background is somehow more special because they do x, y, and z.
Mar 28, 2010 2:53am
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Mar 28, 2010 3:00 AM
I Wear Pants wrote:
Ghmothwdwhso wrote:
I Wear Pants wrote: Race/ethnic/religious/sexual orientation/whatever "pride" only leads to discrimination and violence. If people would just learn to be who they are and not who their parents, town, culture, etc wants them to be we'd be much better off.

What a completely FUCKED UP thought you just spewed out of your mouth.

So, If I believe in an ethnic group, that leads to discrimination and violence?
No, but what tends to happen is people who have a lot of pride in their whatever (race, culture, what have you) tend to say "look, we're different".

Which is the exact opposite of what most of the civil rights battles have been fought over. The moral of them has been "we're all people".

I just think the disparity is a little bit confusing, do people want to be different or the same? I'm not saying that people shouldn't continue to follow traditions or cultures or do their own thing. I just grow tired of people acting like their specific culture or background is somehow more special because they do x, y, and z.
I think my first response was best. I hate lame ass, apologetic excuses for bad behavior.

What a completely FUCKED UP thought you just spewed out of your mouth. It is not confusing.
Mar 28, 2010 3:00am
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Mar 28, 2010 3:03 AM
I was not excusing stupid bad behavior. I probably worded what I was trying to say poorly because I'm stupid and it's 3 AM.

People being hypocritical about wanting to be special and wanting to be treated the same does not rationalize any of the violence or discrimination that we see. I was just trying to make an observation.

And it's a fucked up thought spewed forth from my fingers, I don't dictate to myself. :P

Edit: When looking back my first post was definitely worded in a way that makes it look like I was saying something that I'm not. I've rectified that.
Mar 28, 2010 3:03am
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Mar 28, 2010 10:04 AM
I think if you're born into this country, or have taken the proper citizen steps, you are American. I'm guessing the laws agree with me(?)

I think prefixes suit the purpose of those with dual citizenship.
- people who live a certain amount of time in one country and the rest of the time in another country

I agree with Pants in my views that, otherwise, prefixes tend to promote separationism. Having a prefix or not doesn't have any effect on your ancestry and/or culture.
Mar 28, 2010 10:04am