Nickleback the NEW Metallica?

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Mar 23, 2010 4:32 AM
For the 30 and 40 something "Chatters" on here, you know who Metallica is... They are and will always be the best metal band of all time. As our kids grow up, we try to teach them about bands like Metallica and AC/DC but would Nickleback be considered the metal band of today's generation?
Mar 23, 2010 4:32am
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Mar 23, 2010 5:58 AM
L-fucking-O-L

You can't be serious with ANYTHING you just typed, can you?

I'm guessing this post was sarcasm and I'll leave now..
Mar 23, 2010 5:58am
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Mar 23, 2010 6:31 AM
anyone who considers themselves a fan of metal or hard rock would never say that Nickleback is the Metallica of this generation.
Mar 23, 2010 6:31am
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Mar 23, 2010 7:30 AM
Why? Because metal and hard rock isn't main stream and Nickelback was smart enough to go that route?

I hate the bashing of Nickelback. I'm not a huge fan, but I think it is so hypocritical and ignorant of the metal/rock community.

Nickelback has had some really good songs and there are just as many (if not more) people out there who LOVE them rather than HATE (on) them.
Mar 23, 2010 7:30am
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Mar 23, 2010 8:02 AM
Mar 23, 2010 8:02am
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Mar 23, 2010 8:05 AM
This is the funniest thread EVER! Nickleback is awful. I honestly think they are God's best practical joke ever played on humanity. Every song but one sounds the same (Rockstar). They suck...plain and simple.
Mar 23, 2010 8:05am
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Mar 23, 2010 8:06 AM
You lost me at Metallica being "the best metal band of all time." They stopped being relevant after the Black album and I didn't even like that.
Mar 23, 2010 8:06am
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Mar 23, 2010 8:29 AM
if nickelback is this generation's metallica i'd understand it.
Mar 23, 2010 8:29am
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Mar 23, 2010 8:32 AM
I don't know anyone who likes nickleback... but I know people who worship metalica. No.
Mar 23, 2010 8:32am
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Mar 23, 2010 8:38 AM
...THEIR NOT WORTHY, THEIR NOT WORTHY, THEIR NOT WORTHY
Mar 23, 2010 8:38am
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Mar 23, 2010 8:42 AM
I just had a conversation yesterday about how bad Nickleback sucks.
Mar 23, 2010 8:42am
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Mar 23, 2010 8:48 AM
ksig489 wrote: This is the funniest thread EVER! Nickleback is awful. I honestly think they are God's best practical joke ever played on humanity. Every song but one sounds the same (Rockstar). They suck...plain and simple.
+1...spot on analysis
Mar 23, 2010 8:48am
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Mar 23, 2010 8:55 AM
I think some of the stuff Nickelback has done is ok, but most of it isn't.
Mar 23, 2010 8:55am
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Mar 23, 2010 8:56 AM
Not sure if serious...

Nickelback is bona fide proof that the market doesn't always reward actual talent....
Mar 23, 2010 8:56am
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Mar 23, 2010 9:13 AM
BR1986FB wrote: You lost me at Metallica being "the best metal band of all time." They stopped being relevant after the Black album and I didn't even like that.
Why? Because it wasn't what you wanted?
Mar 23, 2010 9:13am
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Mar 23, 2010 9:14 AM
Anyone...I mean ANYONE who would say a statement like this, was NOT around when Metallica released their ONLY good albums. 1. Kill 'Em All....2. Ride The Lightning...3. Master of Puppets...4. And Justice For All....after that, it doesn't matter because they became hard rock. Those first 4 albums were the blueprint for thrash. Certainly not the mainstream whiny ass rock that Nickelback peddles and some folks consider "metal". If Nickelback is metal, then I give up on music.

Metallica, for the most part died after "and justice for all" came out to a large majority of us fans. Before "enter sandman", the mainstream didn't know Metallica, and we felt that the mainstream was taking our band from us. If you were around during the reign of the Big 4(Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, and Slayer) you would understand feelings on this. Metallica were thrash, and thrash DID NOT belong on the radio, and it still doesn't. Do they belong there now? Yes, Metallica is a radio band now, like Nickelback I suppose. But to equate Metallica with Nickelback in any sense or form is totallly unjustified at this point, unless of course Nickelback makes "kill 'em all 2". That won't happen...so, they suck and they suck bad.

PS: Yes, I'm offended, and yes this is somewhat of a lecture on being "true". Thrash 'till death I guess.
Mar 23, 2010 9:14am
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Mar 23, 2010 9:15 AM
ksig489 wrote: This is the funniest thread EVER! Nickleback is awful. I honestly think they are God's best practical joke ever played on humanity. Every song but one sounds the same (Rockstar). They suck...plain and simple.
What band doesn't have songs that sound alike? I think Godsmack's new song sounds like all their other ones.

Even my 3 year old daughter can tell me who sings alot of songs because of how they sound.

I'm not a Nickleback lover, but I'm not a basher either. I've never quite understood it.
Mar 23, 2010 9:15am
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Mar 23, 2010 9:19 AM
visionquest wrote: Anyone...I mean ANYONE who would say a statement like this, was NOT around when Metallica released their ONLY good albums. 1. Kill 'Em All....2. Ride The Lightning...3. Master of Puppets...4. And Justice For All....after that, it doesn't matter because they became hard rock. Those first 4 albums were the blueprint for thrash. Certainly not the mainstream whiny ass rock that Nickelback peddles and some folks consider "metal". If Nickelback is metal, then I give up on music.

Metallica, for the most part died after "and justice for all" came out to a large majority of us fans. Before "enter sandman", the mainstream didn't know Metallica, and we felt that the mainstream was taking our band from us. If you were around during the reign of the Big 4(Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, and Slayer) you would understand feelings on this. Metallica were thrash, and thrash DID NOT belong on the radio, and it still doesn't. Do they belong there now? Yes, Metallica is a radio band now, like Nickelback I suppose. But to equate Metallica with Nickelback in any sense or form is totallly unjustified at this point, unless of course Nickelback makes "kill 'em all 2". That won't happen...so, they suck and they suck bad.

PS: Yes, I'm offended, and yes this is somewhat of a lecture on being "true". Thrash 'till death I guess.
This makes the most sense so far. But another thing I've never understood is how people say Metallica "sucks" because their sound changed a bit. So what if they became hard rock? The music was still good, whether YOU liked it or not. It just wasn't thrash. And I must say, as Metallica fan, I do not like Kill 'Em All. I love the other records you mentioned.

It's one thing to say, "You know, after JFA, I didn't really care for Metallica's music", but it's another to say "You know, after JFA, Metallica really sucked and became irrelevant."

To me that is just ignorant.
Mar 23, 2010 9:19am
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Mar 23, 2010 9:21 AM



Proof that they might rip themselves off.
Mar 23, 2010 9:21am
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Mar 23, 2010 9:28 AM
WebFire wrote:
visionquest wrote: Anyone...I mean ANYONE who would say a statement like this, was NOT around when Metallica released their ONLY good albums. 1. Kill 'Em All....2. Ride The Lightning...3. Master of Puppets...4. And Justice For All....after that, it doesn't matter because they became hard rock. Those first 4 albums were the blueprint for thrash. Certainly not the mainstream whiny ass rock that Nickelback peddles and some folks consider "metal". If Nickelback is metal, then I give up on music.

Metallica, for the most part died after "and justice for all" came out to a large majority of us fans. Before "enter sandman", the mainstream didn't know Metallica, and we felt that the mainstream was taking our band from us. If you were around during the reign of the Big 4(Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, and Slayer) you would understand feelings on this. Metallica were thrash, and thrash DID NOT belong on the radio, and it still doesn't. Do they belong there now? Yes, Metallica is a radio band now, like Nickelback I suppose. But to equate Metallica with Nickelback in any sense or form is totallly unjustified at this point, unless of course Nickelback makes "kill 'em all 2". That won't happen...so, they suck and they suck bad.

PS: Yes, I'm offended, and yes this is somewhat of a lecture on being "true". Thrash 'till death I guess.
This makes the most sense so far. But another thing I've never understood is how people say Metallica "sucks" because their sound changed a bit. So what if they became hard rock? The music was still good, whether YOU liked it or not. It just wasn't thrash. And I must say, as Metallica fan, I do not like Kill 'Em All. I love the other records you mentioned.

It's one thing to say, "You know, after JFA, I didn't really care for Metallica's music", but it's another to say "You know, after JFA, Metallica really sucked and became irrelevant."

To me that is just ignorant.
-I understand and see your point. However, I guess you would have to understand what they meant to some people when they were thrash. It's a combination of things..such as the belief that they sold out after the Black Album, which they did. And, I can't blame them for that. I really can't. However, their music became tepid and less heavy. There's no denying that. The best way I can explain this is...they began writing music for others(the mainstream) instead of writing the thrash that some of us loved(especially kill 'em all...sorry. ha) and cowtowed to the things they used to be against. Then, they cut their hair and all of that. Then, of course, the final nail was probably the movie "some kind of monster" with their therapist and such. It was a joke and it was a bad one. That band turned into something that thrash fans could never like again. I will say that, in some folk's eyes, they've redeemed themselves a little with "death magnetic" but not this guy. A large part of that is due to Lars losing nearly all his chops. Dude just has no phrasing anymore. Forget that he can't play fast anymore...but, his phrasing is beyond awful. I will offer this caveat...."hero of the day" off of the album "Load" is really good. That's about the only post AJFA track I dug.
Mar 23, 2010 9:28am
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Mar 23, 2010 9:37 AM
OK...I feel like Metallica post Black album is not all that great. I did like the Black album, even though it was their ticket into the mainstream...but it was still full of great songs. I think just about every song on that album could have been a signature song on most other bands albums.

But even a "sold out" Metallica is far greater than even the best possible Nickleback.

They even say it in their song "I want to be a rock star"...keep trying, because you arent one yet!
Mar 23, 2010 9:37am
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Mar 23, 2010 9:38 AM
Well, the main problem with the original post is the part where Nickelback is referred to as metal. They're essentially a heavier version of American Idol-esque pop music that designs simple tunes for radio popularity. I'd say they're as metal as Mozart...except a large number of Euro black metal bands incorporate symphonic elements into their music, which means that classical music is more metal than Nickelback.

The only people who could actually consider Nickelback to be metal would have to be people who look at actual metal as "too heavy" or "just noise". Then again, 20 or so years ago, groups like Warrant, Winger and White Lion were considered to be part of metal, as well (hence the term "hair metal"). Of course, those bands, for how sappy they were, at least illustrated the skill to perform guitar solos or any melody more complicated than three notes.
Mar 23, 2010 9:38am
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Mar 23, 2010 10:38 AM
I still dont understand the "metallica sucks after AJFA" comments. Yea, load and reload were not very good and st. anger was a catastrophe, but how many of you have actually bothered to listen to their newest cd? Its not thrash, but its a hell of a lot closer than the previous 4 cd's.
Mar 23, 2010 10:38am
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Mar 23, 2010 10:47 AM
visionquest wrote:


Proof that they might rip themselves off.
That's cute that the guy who made it had to slow down How You Remind Me to prove his point. People who have actually listened to their albums can very easily dispute the "their songs all sound the same" argument. Because everyone knows Rockstar sounds exactly like Animals. Nickelback does have some songs from earlier albums that could be considered metal but not as much anymore.
Mar 23, 2010 10:47am
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Mar 23, 2010 11:14 AM
There are a few Nickelback songs I like, but no way would I compare them to Metallica. Maybe Nickelback the New Def Leppard or something like that. To me there is nothing better than the first four Metallica CD's. I will admit I did not even buy the new CD, I have been disappointed with everything they have done since Black. I may need to pick it up.

I am more into old school metal bands like Anthrax, Metallica, Megadeth, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, etc. I like some of Slayer, the new one is pretty good. Some friends of mine tried to get me into some of the newer bands, but I guess I am getting old because I couldn't get into them.
Mar 23, 2010 11:14am