BR1986FB wrote:

Mr Pat wrote:
"No OSU QB will ever be good because Troy Smith isn't."

Troy Smith is the best qb since Dan Marino.

Fixed.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/10831/source-colt-mccoy-to-visit-browns

McCoy coming for a visit in April to Berea.

BR1986FB wrote:

KnightRyder wrote:

BR1986FB wrote: I wouldn't draft a QB and throw him out there immediately like with Aikman, Manning, etc. Roethlisberger, Flacco and even Sanchez walked into the perfect storm...top 5 defenses and brutal rushing attacks. They could afford to be "game managers" their rookie year. We don't have the luxury of that defense although our rushing attack should be very good.

dont ya think the rushing attack will help the browns defense?

It could but if that secondary doesn't get fixed the opposition could have very short/quick strike drives.

i'm gonna have to disagree with you this time. imo if you can run the ball and stop the run , you can win. last season when the browns finally got their ground game working the defense looked much better. but at the same time the browns got better at stopping the run. in the victory over pittsburgh the running game was as good as it has been in years vs the steelers. and when they stopped pittsbugh running game they came with alot of pressure in passing situations. and shut down the pittsburgh air attack. but i think it all started with running the ball and stopping the run.

ccrunner609 wrote:

karen lotz wrote:

sleeper wrote:

Mr Pat wrote: You're right golf, Clausen sure played terrible on defense.

Gotta love ND homers sticking up for there obvious busts. People said the same thing about Brady "He didn't play defense, etc" but look at him? Can't even hack it on one of the worst teams in the league and traded for 2 6th round draft picks LOL

The sad thing is Quinn has had more NFL success than any OSU quarterback in any of our lifetimes. And yes, I know that Troy Smith had won the Ravens job before he got sick.


EDIT: And you can take that to the bank

On the way to the bank, stop by and talk to Bobby Hoying about how much better a NFL career he has compared to BQ.

Where is he at these days? Working at the Citgo?

KnightRyder wrote:

BR1986FB wrote:

KnightRyder wrote:

BR1986FB wrote: I wouldn't draft a QB and throw him out there immediately like with Aikman, Manning, etc. Roethlisberger, Flacco and even Sanchez walked into the perfect storm...top 5 defenses and brutal rushing attacks. They could afford to be "game managers" their rookie year. We don't have the luxury of that defense although our rushing attack should be very good.

dont ya think the rushing attack will help the browns defense?

It could but if that secondary doesn't get fixed the opposition could have very short/quick strike drives.

i'm gonna have to disagree with you this time. imo if you can run the ball and stop the run , you can win. last season when the browns finally got their ground game working the defense looked much better. but at the same time the browns got better at stopping the run. in the victory over pittsburgh the running game was as good as it has been in years vs the steelers. and when they stopped pittsbugh running game they came with alot of pressure in passing situations. and shut down the pittsburgh air attack. but i think it all started with running the ball and stopping the run.

They may be improved in stopping the run IF they get Shaun Rogers OUT of the NT position but they have done NOTHING, yet, to prove that they can stop the pass or giving up big plays.

ccrunner609 wrote:

karen lotz wrote:

ccrunner609 wrote:

karen lotz wrote:

sleeper wrote:

Mr Pat wrote: You're right golf, Clausen sure played terrible on defense.

Gotta love ND homers sticking up for there obvious busts. People said the same thing about Brady "He didn't play defense, etc" but look at him? Can't even hack it on one of the worst teams in the league and traded for 2 6th round draft picks LOL

The sad thing is Quinn has had more NFL success than any OSU quarterback in any of our lifetimes. And yes, I know that Troy Smith had won the Ravens job before he got sick.


EDIT: And you can take that to the bank

On the way to the bank, stop by and talk to Bobby Hoying about how much better a NFL career he has compared to BQ.

Where is he at these days? Working at the Citgo?

What does that have to do with anything? He spent 6-7 years in the league and is now out.

Which may be longer than Quinn lasts.

karen lotz wrote: Where is he at these days? Working at the Citgo?

http://www.crawfordhoying.com/