devil1197 wrote:
Footwedge wrote:
devil1197 wrote:
The waiting period is over?
If we draft another QB now, without addressing the other issues first, we will have another Tim Couch or Brady Quinn. A failed QB, somewhat due to their abilities but some blame can be put upon the lack of talent surrounding the team.
You cannot expect a QB to come from college into an organization like this and expect to win right away. Do what Baltimore did. Build a nasty defense and then draft a QB that doesn't have to be great to win (Flacco).
What was the record of the Cowboys when Aikman was a rookie? I'll help you...1-13. Do you think the Cowboys needed help elsewhere? The following year, the team made the playoffs and were there for a long time.
What was the record of the Pittspuke Steelers when they drafted Bradshaw #1 in 1970? Let me help you, iy was 1-13, do you think they needed help in other positions? And in Bradshaw's case, he was a risky proposition in that he played ball at Louisiana Tech.
You compare this situation with that of Tim Couch. As bad as the Browns are, they are nowhere near the level of putridocraty as the expansion team was. And as a sidenote, Couch was a complete flop anyhow. Wouldn't have mattered who drafted him. He never caught on with any other team.
You can't win without a good quarterback. Period. And in most cases, it takes a quarterback a couple of years to learn the NFL. the Mannings, Brees, Bradshaw, Favre and yes, even Tom Brady....all stunk their freshmen season.
Hmmm, take me off your ignore list eh?
You cited two whopping examples, hell their are two examples of 1st round QB's just with the Cleveland team since coming back that didn't pan out simply because there was no great talent around them. Now, if we draft a QB and groom him without throwing him to the wolves then I'd be okay with that.
But in our division you are not going to take any QB in this draft, put them at starter and expect them to be effective against the defenses of Pitt, Balt, and Cincinnati 6 times a year. I just do not want to see another promising QB ruined simply because he played too early and was shorthanded with talent on both sides of the football.
Read BR's reply...he sums it up really well. Would love to have Ndomican Suh, Eric Berry, and a top notch qb. But you can't have everything. Until this team finds a quarterback, there is no playoffs in the future.
Yes, it will take a year in dealing with a freshman's mistakes. Look at the Jets, or even the Lions. It most often takes a full year to learn. There have been exceptions. Roethlesberger was picked in the lowest part of the first round, and he won his first year. But Bradford and McCoy are both rated higher than what Roethlesberger was rated at the same stage.
Eventually, you have to find a quality qb...the longer you wait, the longer the franchise will suffer.
