tk421
Posts: 8,500
Mar 21, 2010 10:30pm
Wow. You honestly are going to sit there and say that the government taking over 1/6th of the economy isn't going to raise taxes? Is there some magical money fairy that is going to pay for this?gibby08 wrote: Once again...do you have an proof??
Never liked Pelosi...her voice annoys the shit out of me
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ou1980
Posts: 877
Mar 21, 2010 10:30pm
Its going to pass.......
CANT WAIT FOR NOVEMBER!!!
CANT WAIT FOR NOVEMBER!!!
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Mar 21, 2010 10:30pm
I'm against the bill in current form, but that is a stretch. I doubt everyone's taxes will go up.ccrunner609 wrote:You dont think that this monster bill wont raise taxes on every single person in this country? Your a fool.gibby08 wrote:Any proofccrunner609 wrote: Nancy Pelosi just said that this bill would create 4 million jobs? WTF?
How does taxing everyone and passing it around in a form of free medicine gonna generate jobs?
unemployment will stay double digits, shit I might just quit my job. No need to work. Welfare and free insurance. Sounds good.
Also, dear God leave Teddy out this.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Mar 21, 2010 10:30pm
I can't wait for the 37 states to sue the federal government.
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Mar 21, 2010 10:31pm
That's because almost half of the country already pays no taxes at all. Everyone else's will go up.ptown_trojans_1 wrote:I'm against the bill in current form, but that is a stretch. I doubt everyone's taxes will go up.ccrunner609 wrote:You dont think that this monster bill wont raise taxes on every single person in this country? Your a fool.gibby08 wrote:Any proofccrunner609 wrote: Nancy Pelosi just said that this bill would create 4 million jobs? WTF?
How does taxing everyone and passing it around in a form of free medicine gonna generate jobs?
unemployment will stay double digits, shit I might just quit my job. No need to work. Welfare and free insurance. Sounds good.
Also, dear God leave Teddy out this.
gibby08
Posts: 1,581
Mar 21, 2010 10:32pm
Any prooftk421 wrote:That's because almost half of the country already pays no taxes at all. Everyone else's will go up.ptown_trojans_1 wrote:I'm against the bill in current form, but that is a stretch. I doubt everyone's taxes will go up.ccrunner609 wrote:You dont think that this monster bill wont raise taxes on every single person in this country? Your a fool.gibby08 wrote:Any proofccrunner609 wrote: Nancy Pelosi just said that this bill would create 4 million jobs? WTF?
How does taxing everyone and passing it around in a form of free medicine gonna generate jobs?
unemployment will stay double digits, shit I might just quit my job. No need to work. Welfare and free insurance. Sounds good.
Also, dear God leave Teddy out this.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Mar 21, 2010 10:34pm
You should read David Frum's take on why that is not much of a consolation prize compared to the ramifications of this having passed. Very depressing.Its going to pass.......
CANT WAIT FOR NOVEMBER!!!
http://www.frumforum.com/waterloo
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Mar 21, 2010 10:34pm
Have you never heard of Google? Jesus Christ. Ignorance is truly bliss, huh?gibby08 wrote:Any prooftk421 wrote:That's because almost half of the country already pays no taxes at all. Everyone else's will go up.ptown_trojans_1 wrote:I'm against the bill in current form, but that is a stretch. I doubt everyone's taxes will go up.ccrunner609 wrote:You dont think that this monster bill wont raise taxes on every single person in this country? Your a fool.gibby08 wrote:Any proofccrunner609 wrote: Nancy Pelosi just said that this bill would create 4 million jobs? WTF?
How does taxing everyone and passing it around in a form of free medicine gonna generate jobs?
unemployment will stay double digits, shit I might just quit my job. No need to work. Welfare and free insurance. Sounds good.
Also, dear God leave Teddy out this.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/30/pf/taxes/who_pays_taxes/index.htm?postversion=2009100314
http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/30/pf/taxes/who_pays_taxes/index.htm?postversion=2009100314
http://moneynews.com/Economy/income-tax-break/2009/10/05/id/335381
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Mar 21, 2010 10:38pm
Anyone who thinks the idea of the government having so much power to control 1/6th of our economy is a truly frightening person. That is terrifying.
gibby08
Posts: 1,581
Mar 21, 2010 10:38pm
I'm speaking in terms of you guys claiming everyone's taxes are going to go up
Why did you post the same article 3 times?
Why did you post the same article 3 times?
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Mar 21, 2010 10:40pm
Well, technically, that is not everyone. Since half the country pays no taxes. So, the correct phrase would be, "all tax payers taxes will go up."
Even then, I'm not sure that will happen specifically with this bill.
Even then, I'm not sure that will happen specifically with this bill.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Mar 21, 2010 10:44pm
Just give me the same health insurance that all public employees who work for us are given.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Mar 21, 2010 10:44pm
Listening to Major Garrett right now, it sounds like Anthem Blue Crosses bonehead decision to raise rates 40% on individuals and small businesses after Scott Brown's victory served as a major spring board to go big and go for it all instead of doing the incremental approach it was assumed would have to be taken when they lost the super majority. Very interesting.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Mar 21, 2010 10:44pm
I'm suprised that 27 dems have voted "no" so far.
Pleasantly suprised!
Pleasantly suprised!
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Mar 21, 2010 10:45pm
Well, everyone go get your government approved health care. Anyone want to take a guess what is the next sector of the economy to be taken over by the government?
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Mar 21, 2010 10:46pm
They only need 216. They let the others vote no so it appears they aren't in favor.CenterBHSFan wrote: I'm suprised that 27 dems have voted "no" so far.
Pleasantly suprised!
gibby08
Posts: 1,581
Mar 21, 2010 10:46pm
THE SENATE BILL HAS PASSED THE HOUSE
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ou1980
Posts: 877
Mar 21, 2010 10:47pm
216
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Mar 21, 2010 10:48pm
Oh, I don't know. I still have faith that some of my fellow democrats have some common sensetk421 wrote:They only need 216. They let the others vote no so it appears they aren't in favor.CenterBHSFan wrote: I'm suprised that 27 dems have voted "no" so far.
Pleasantly suprised!
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Mar 21, 2010 10:49pm
So, this is how government take over is greeted, to thunderous applause.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Mar 21, 2010 10:49pm
219-210, pretty close!
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Mar 21, 2010 10:53pm
Bill is passed, now the other two votes. Now, some disorder going on in the House.
Just a note guys, watch the personal attacks. I know tensions are high, but keep it civil.
Just a note guys, watch the personal attacks. I know tensions are high, but keep it civil.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Mar 21, 2010 10:59pm
This is interesting. A great snapshot at how controversial abortion is.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Mar 21, 2010 11:06pm
Yeah, very interesting. It sounds like English Parliament, only the members aren't drunk (I think).
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Mar 21, 2010 11:06pm
ptown_trojans_1 wrote: Bill is passed, now the other two votes. Now, some disorder going on in the House.
Just a note guys, watch the personal attacks. I know tensions are high, but keep it civil.
Agreed!