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                                Mar 16, 2010 5:24pm
                            
                        Um... Delhomme is 35 years old. Any other questions?queencitybuckeye wrote:Footwedge wrote:Every one of those you listed had a couple of good years...especially the years when they were on the Super Bowl winning team.queencitybuckeye wrote:Sincerely,Footwedge wrote: You can't win the NFL without a good quarterback.
Doug Williams
Jeff Hostetler
Mark Rypien
Trent Dilfer
Brad Johnson
Which actually argues aginst your point, as Del Homie is actually more talanted than several of these guys.
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                                Mar 16, 2010 5:35pm
                            
                        
                                ^^^
What does that matter?
                        What does that matter?
                                        
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                                                                Footwedge
                                                                            
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                                Mar 16, 2010 5:38pm
                            
                        I think Browns fans would like a good quarterback for a period longer than 1 or perhaps 2 years. Hopefully, that clears it up for you.HighRoller74 wrote: ^^^
What does that matter?
Lovejoy1984
                                                                            
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                                Mar 16, 2010 5:48pm
                            
                        
                                I'd think Browns fans realize Delhomme is only a stop gap, and that they will be drafting a QBF this year or next.
But I agree if they were planning on Delhomme to be the future, then it's clearly not a wise idea.
                        But I agree if they were planning on Delhomme to be the future, then it's clearly not a wise idea.
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                                Mar 16, 2010 7:18pm
                            
                        
                                If Delhomme gives you ONE good year, it will be a better year than the past 30 of them... Browns fans need to be happy with what they can get because honestly they haven't had very much.
P.S. Wouldn't it be nice to see shades of '87 "The Drive" Brady Quinn returns to Cleveland to take down the Delhomme led Browns in their first AFC championship game in over 20 years? LOL Denver has always been Cleveland's Black cloud... Lets just hope for Cleveland's sake they didn't just make a BIG mistake
                            
                        P.S. Wouldn't it be nice to see shades of '87 "The Drive" Brady Quinn returns to Cleveland to take down the Delhomme led Browns in their first AFC championship game in over 20 years? LOL Denver has always been Cleveland's Black cloud... Lets just hope for Cleveland's sake they didn't just make a BIG mistake
                                        
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                                                                queencitybuckeye
                                                                            
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                                Mar 16, 2010 8:38pm
                            
                        You plug in your franchise QB last, not first. You live with Jake for a couple of years while you build a team. Right now, if you draft your quarterback of the future, you're Archie Manning and the Saints 40 years later.Footwedge wrote:I think Browns fans would like a good quarterback for a period longer than 1 or perhaps 2 years. Hopefully, that clears it up for you.HighRoller74 wrote: ^^^
What does that matter?
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                                Mar 17, 2010 1:32am
                            
                        
                                I never understood why Quinn was ever considered a top prospect. He never won a big game in college and consistently underperformed while in the pros.
                            
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                                Mar 17, 2010 4:37am
                            
                        Ask Tom Brady that same question...dwccrew wrote: I never understood why Quinn was ever considered a top prospect. He never won a big game in college and consistently underperformed while in the pros.
                                        
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                                Mar 17, 2010 9:15am
                            
                        
                                Charlie Weiss definately sold us a bill of goods. Quinn couldnt beat out a guy we got off waivers.
                            
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                                Mar 17, 2010 11:59am
                            
                        
                                I believe if Holmgren can't get Bradford he may take a QB late if one is available that he likes.  If not we waits it out.  From what I have read he likes Bradford.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Mar 17, 2010 12:54pm
                            
                        
                                This is what will happen.
If the exact Qb that holmgren wants is not there when they pick then he may move down a little bit or pick some other spot. Jake will be there two years....he is the starter....they may wait till next year.
He wont settle for a QB unless it is the exact one he wants.
                        If the exact Qb that holmgren wants is not there when they pick then he may move down a little bit or pick some other spot. Jake will be there two years....he is the starter....they may wait till next year.
He wont settle for a QB unless it is the exact one he wants.
                                        
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                                                                Mr Pat
                                                                            
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                                Mar 17, 2010 2:29pm
                            
                        You make a strong point, Brady played AWFUL on defense at Notre Dame.dwccrew wrote: I never understood why Quinn was ever considered a top prospect. He never won a big game in college and consistently underperformed while in the pros.
                                        
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                                                                pkebker
                                                                            
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                                Mar 17, 2010 6:01pm
                            
                        Romeo Crennel was also buddy-buddy with Weis...I think that had something to do with us drafting himBluepride13 wrote: Charlie Weiss definately sold us a bill of goods. Quinn couldnt beat out a guy we got off waivers.
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                                Mar 17, 2010 7:23pm
                            
                        cheeseburger charlie lobbied hard with NFL coaches and GM's to get quinn drafted , so he could use it as a recruiting toolBluepride13 wrote: Charlie Weiss definately sold us a bill of goods. Quinn couldnt beat out a guy we got off waivers.
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                                Mar 18, 2010 3:27pm
                            
                        
                                So glad that Brady Quinn got traded. I can now go back to hating him with unimpeded vitriol.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                Bluepride13
                                                                            
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                                Mar 19, 2010 8:10am
                            
                        How did that work out for fat boy?KnightRyder wrote:cheeseburger charlie lobbied hard with NFL coaches and GM's to get quinn drafted , so he could use it as a recruiting toolBluepride13 wrote: Charlie Weiss definately sold us a bill of goods. Quinn couldnt beat out a guy we got off waivers.
                                        
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                                                                Bluepride13
                                                                            
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                                Mar 19, 2010 8:12am
                            
                        How did that work out for fat boy?KnightRyder wrote:cheeseburger charlie lobbied hard with NFL coaches and GM's to get quinn drafted , so he could use it as a recruiting toolBluepride13 wrote: Charlie Weiss definately sold us a bill of goods. Quinn couldnt beat out a guy we got off waivers.
KnightRyder
                                                                            
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                                Mar 19, 2010 11:22pm
                            
                        not to good he was trying to sign pryor.Bluepride13 wrote:How did that work out for fat boy?KnightRyder wrote:cheeseburger charlie lobbied hard with NFL coaches and GM's to get quinn drafted , so he could use it as a recruiting toolBluepride13 wrote: Charlie Weiss definately sold us a bill of goods. Quinn couldnt beat out a guy we got off waivers.
Lovejoy1984
                                                                            
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                                Mar 20, 2010 1:04am
                            
                        So was 110+ other coaches in the NCAA. What's your point?KnightRyder wrote:not to good he was trying to sign pryor.Bluepride13 wrote:How did that work out for fat boy?KnightRyder wrote:cheeseburger charlie lobbied hard with NFL coaches and GM's to get quinn drafted , so he could use it as a recruiting toolBluepride13 wrote: Charlie Weiss definately sold us a bill of goods. Quinn couldnt beat out a guy we got off waivers.
                                        
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                                                                Footwedge
                                                                            
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                                Mar 20, 2010 1:05am
                            
                        I don't tbuy that argument at all. Aikman struggled with a crap team his first year or 2. So did Manning....both of them as a matter of fact. So did Favre. And way before your time, Terry Bradshaw was an absolute pig.queencitybuckeye wrote:You plug in your franchise QB last, not first. You live with Jake for a couple of years while you build a team. Right now, if you draft your quarterback of the future, you're Archie Manning and the Saints 40 years later.Footwedge wrote:I think Browns fans would like a good quarterback for a period longer than 1 or perhaps 2 years. Hopefully, that clears it up for you.HighRoller74 wrote: ^^^
What does that matter?
You can't win without a good quarterback. Jake Delhomme was worse than either Quinn or Anderson last year. When you're in your mid 30's, for most people, it's time to hang en up.
                                        
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                                Mar 20, 2010 1:07am
                            
                        Quinn had phenonemal numbers in college, Crew. And...he won a ton of big games in college...just not a bowl game.dwccrew wrote: I never understood why Quinn was ever considered a top prospect. He never won a big game in college and consistently underperformed while in the pros.
                                        
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                                                                pkebker
                                                                            
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                                Mar 20, 2010 6:09am
                            
                        Not really, his record against top 25 teams if I recall was pretty bad...Footwedge wrote:Quinn had phenonemal numbers in college, Crew. And...he won a ton of big games in college...just not a bowl game.dwccrew wrote: I never understood why Quinn was ever considered a top prospect. He never won a big game in college and consistently underperformed while in the pros.
                                        
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                                Mar 21, 2010 8:25pm
                            
                        
                                He won't be ahead of Orton, that's fo sho.