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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Mar 11, 2010 2:12pm
A ton of OSU's games and then basically all of Syracuse's game that have been on ESPN.sportswizuhrd wrote:Not basing my question off this, just quoting it because it was your last reply.devil1197 wrote: Diebler has attempted 274 FG while Rautins has attempted 256 FG.
How many games have you seen of OSU compared to Syracuse?
I always thought they were similar players, tall and long with great shooting abilities.

killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Mar 11, 2010 2:18pm
Andy Rautins.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 11, 2010 2:18pm
Haha typical cbf here.centralbucksfan wrote: http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=andy-rautins&p1=jon-diebler
I haven't seen Rautins play enough to determine who is better. Based on stats, it look as though his game is a little more well rounded the Dielber. But Rautin is also 23yrs of age, a redshirt senior with quite a bit of experience in playing for Canadian national teams for a few years. So with this experience, I would think he should be a little better.
Normally the OSU player is better than the other player; but when the other player is better, it's because he SHOULD be better lol

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 11, 2010 2:21pm
Rautins is better in every aspect and shooting Diebler may have a SLIGHT edge. So yes, this argument should not even be close.
Rautins gets the ball in transition and is deadly in either a pull up, drive, pass, whatever. Diebler looks to pass almost immediately. Rautins has such a better handle that he can actually penetrate to create a shot for himself or someone else.
He rebounds better (numbers are close), but just watch how active. On all the long rebounds he goes after them and about 3-5 times a game keeps a ball alive that allows Jackson or Onuaku to grab the board, he doesnt get credit for this on the stat sheet.
Rautins gets the ball in transition and is deadly in either a pull up, drive, pass, whatever. Diebler looks to pass almost immediately. Rautins has such a better handle that he can actually penetrate to create a shot for himself or someone else.
He rebounds better (numbers are close), but just watch how active. On all the long rebounds he goes after them and about 3-5 times a game keeps a ball alive that allows Jackson or Onuaku to grab the board, he doesnt get credit for this on the stat sheet.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Mar 11, 2010 2:25pm
OH STFU you punk ass hypocrite! I said he was probably better. What more do you want? And I would assume he should be better based on his experience he has. Is that hard to understand or didn't high school cheerleading teach you that? I haven't seen enough to make a decision one way or the other. So what, I should just listen to bozos like you? Or better yet, make some asinine comment like "i haven't never seen him play, but I know so and so is better"?SportsAndLady wrote:Haha typical cbf here.centralbucksfan wrote: http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=andy-rautins&p1=jon-diebler
I haven't seen Rautins play enough to determine who is better based on the stats. And I would assume a player that has played AS MUCH is better. Is that hard to understand or did high school cheerleading not teach you that? Based on stats, it look as though his game is a little more well rounded the Dielber. But Rautin is also 23yrs of age, a redshirt senior with quite a bit of experience in playing for Canadian national teams for a few years. So with this experience, I would think he should be a little better.
Normally the OSU player is better than the other player; but when the other player is better, it's because he SHOULD be better lol
Your a flat out jackass sometimes.
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Cha'DIch
Posts: 65
Mar 11, 2010 2:25pm
Rautins was terrible today. He didn't shoot well, and he turned the ball over way too much. He is a big reason Syracuse lost to Georgetown.
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I drain 3's
Posts: 574
Mar 11, 2010 2:31pm
Go ahead, tell us how you really feel. Don't hold back.centralbucksfan wrote:OH STFU you punk ass hypocrite! I said he was probably better. What more do you want? And I would assume he should be better based on his experience he has. Is that hard to understand or didn't high school cheerleading teach you that? I haven't seen enough to make a decision one way or the other. So what, I should just listen to bozos like you? Or better yet, make some asinine comment like "i haven't never seen him play, but I know so and so is better"?SportsAndLady wrote:Haha typical cbf here.centralbucksfan wrote: http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=andy-rautins&p1=jon-diebler
I haven't seen Rautins play enough to determine who is better based on the stats. And I would assume a player that has played AS MUCH is better. Is that hard to understand or did high school cheerleading not teach you that? Based on stats, it look as though his game is a little more well rounded the Dielber. But Rautin is also 23yrs of age, a redshirt senior with quite a bit of experience in playing for Canadian national teams for a few years. So with this experience, I would think he should be a little better.
Normally the OSU player is better than the other player; but when the other player is better, it's because he SHOULD be better lol
Your a flat out jackass sometimes.

killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Mar 11, 2010 2:33pm
Sometimes really good players play a bad game. Shit happens.Cha'DIch wrote: Rautins was terrible today. He didn't shoot well, and he turned the ball over way too much. He is a big reason Syracuse lost to Georgetown.
Rautins is the most valuable playe on one of the best teams in the country. I don't think OSU fans consider Diebler to be their MVP.
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I drain 3's
Posts: 574
Mar 11, 2010 2:34pm
I really don't think Rautins was "terrible" today either. Did he play great? No. But it wasn't terrible either. Yeah he turned it over 5 times, but he also had 10 assists.

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 11, 2010 2:35pm
K first of all...chill out dude lolcentralbucksfan wrote: OH STFU you punk ass hypocrite! I said he was probably better. What more do you want? And I would assume he should be better based on his experience he has. Is that hard to understand or didn't high school cheerleading teach you that? I haven't seen enough to make a decision one way or the other. So what, I should just listen to bozos like you? Or better yet, make some asinine comment like "i haven't never seen him play, but I know so and so is better"?
Your a flat out jackass sometimes.
Second of all
"didn't high school cheerleading teach you that?"
Hahah what?!??!

karen lotz
Posts: 22,284
Mar 11, 2010 2:40pm
Tourrette'sSportsAndLady wrote:K first of all...chill out dude lolcentralbucksfan wrote: OH STFU you punk ass hypocrite! I said he was probably better. What more do you want? And I would assume he should be better based on his experience he has. Is that hard to understand or didn't high school cheerleading teach you that? I haven't seen enough to make a decision one way or the other. So what, I should just listen to bozos like you? Or better yet, make some asinine comment like "i haven't never seen him play, but I know so and so is better"?
Your a flat out jackass sometimes.
Second of all
"didn't high school cheerleading teach you that?"
Hahah what?!??!
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devil1197
Posts: 6,220
Mar 11, 2010 2:46pm
Rautins started the 2nd half extremely hot but he didn't attempt a FG shot after the 10:27 miss in the 2nd half.