Homosexuality vs. religion

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FairwoodKing
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Mar 9, 2010 9:31pm
Heretic wrote: People, people...please, Jebus has more important things for you to worry about than gays and whatnot.



Now follow His order!
This wasn't necessary. I'm not a Christian and I don't believe in Jesus, but I also don't believe in making fun of other people's faith.
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fan_from_texas
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Mar 9, 2010 9:33pm
BCSbunk wrote: The bible tells us what we need to know about homosexuals. The bible is gods word is it not? Or is it gods word when it is convienent?

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

The bad book says to kill homosexuals. I guess we should feel lucky all they do is discriminate against them and not allow them to marry etc.
Are you joking? Unless you're Jewish, you're not under the law but the new covenant which usurped the law. This is such an elementary point that it's probably not worth debating, but it should explain why you don't see Christians today keeping kosher, obeying the sabbath, or sacrificing animals.

If you want to discuss the interface between religions and homosexuality, go for it, and knock yourself out. But save us all the hassle and try to stick to something reasonable, rather than pulling out nonsense and acting like it's some eureka moment.
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Society
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Mar 9, 2010 9:36pm
CenterBHSFan wrote:
Society wrote:
CenterBHSFan wrote: I will definitely agree with F.K. on one thing: people can't help if they're straight or gay. People just like what they like, there is no accounting for it. I believe they are born that way and don't realize/figure it out until later.
Quit hiding your sexuality and just pm fairwood already.
Haha! Dude, I'm a female, and definitely heterosexual.
My bad! haha
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Society
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Mar 9, 2010 9:36pm
FairwoodKing wrote:
Society wrote:
FairwoodKing wrote:
Society wrote:
FairwoodKing wrote:
Society wrote: Like I told you before. Quit lying to yourself. You have a choice as whether to be gay or not. You choose to be gay.
I was lying to myself when I thought I could change. The only choice I made was to accept what I am and to be sexually active. I only regret that it took me so long to come out of the closet.
Then don't complain about not being able to have a family. If you want a family, quit being gay.
I never said I wanted a family. In fact, I specifically do not.
Good. No need to worry about those poor children then.
I'd make a better father than you would. At least I'm not a bigot.
No you wouldn't, for reasons I cannot discuss on here.
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CenterBHSFan
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Mar 9, 2010 9:36pm
Those pictures like that don't bother me. I DO have a sense of humor, and they don't change my outlook on anything concerning my faith. I've even posted something along the those lines. (Jesus/Last Supper)
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Society
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Mar 9, 2010 9:37pm
FairwoodKing wrote:
Heretic wrote: People, people...please, Jebus has more important things for you to worry about than gays and whatnot.



Now follow His order!
This wasn't necessary. I'm not a Christian and I don't believe in Jesus, but I also don't believe in making fun of other people's faith.
Nope, you just want to disregard people's faith.
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FairwoodKing
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Mar 9, 2010 9:42pm
This wasn't necessary. I'm not a Christian and I don't believe in Jesus, but I also don't believe in making fun of other people's faith.
Nope, you just want to disregard people's faith.
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Criticizing is one thing, making fun of is something else.

When it reaches the point where your faith is hurting me, then I have the right to speak up.
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september63
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Mar 9, 2010 9:46pm
if you are going to debate ppl on Freehuddle.................fairwood, id only do it if ur feelings cant be hurt. You are portraying yourself here as a fresh chunk of meat and the vultures are going to kill ya!!
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Society
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Mar 9, 2010 9:53pm
september63 wrote: if you are going to debate ppl on Freehuddle.................fairwood, id only do it if ur feelings cant be hurt. You are portraying yourself here as a fresh chunk of meat and the vultures are going to kill ya!!
By the sounds of it, I don't think his chunk of meat is very fresh.
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FairwoodKing
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Mar 9, 2010 9:57pm
september63 wrote: if you are going to debate ppl on Freehuddle.................fairwood, id only do it if ur feelings cant be hurt. You are portraying yourself here as a fresh chunk of meat and the vultures are going to kill ya!!
Fresh chunk of meat? hehehe That's the first time I've ever been called that.

Don't worry about me. I'm not worried about the vultures. I guarantee you I'll be here when everyone else has given up.

I don't have to worry about what I say on this huddle. But I do have to be very careful when I talk to my closest friends and relatives. I am the token atheist within my group. As hard as it was for me to come out of the gay closet, it was even harder to come out as an atheist. My inner circle includes very devout Catholics, Adventists, Mormons, Orthodox, Jews, Muslims, and all sorts of other people, many of them gays and lesbians. I don't injure our relationships by telling them what I really think of their faiths.

On here, it doesn't make any difference. I can have a much more open debate without being fearful of insulting someone.
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majorspark
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Mar 9, 2010 10:11pm
FairwoodKing wrote: I have gotten an erection because of men since I was five years old.
Children of this age are the essence of innocence especially when it comes to the sexual arena. To say that 5yr old boys are naturally running around with erections based on a sexual desire is utter nonsense. If you believe this was the case with you something is wrong with your evaluation of your sexual development.

You can believe what you want about your sexual orientation that is fine. But if you expect anyone to believe kindergartners are running around wanting to bang each other you are quite mistaken.
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FairwoodKing
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Mar 9, 2010 10:14pm
majorspark wrote:
FairwoodKing wrote: I have gotten an erection because of men since I was five years old.
Children of this age are the essence of innocence especially when it comes to the sexual arena. To say that 5yr old boys are naturally running around with erections based on a sexual desire is utter nonsense. If you believe this was the case with you something is wrong with your evaluation of your sexual development.

You can believe what you want about your sexual orientation that is fine. But if you expect anyone to believe kindergartners are running around wanting to bang each other you are quite mistaken.
I never said I wanted to bang anyone when I was five years old. I only said that I got an erection looking at cowboys. As I got older, nothing in me changed. I still like looking at cowboys!

The point is that I have never gotten an erection from women, but I have gotten an erection from men as far back as I can remember. I have to assume I was born this way.
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majorspark
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Mar 9, 2010 10:43pm
FairwoodKing wrote: I never said I wanted to bang anyone when I was five years old. I only said that I got an erection looking at cowboys. As I got older, nothing in me changed. I still like looking at cowboys!

The point is that I have never gotten an erection from women, but I have gotten an erection from men as far back as I can remember. I have to assume I was born this way.
Five year olds are not getting a hard on over looking at cowboys or cowgirls. Most don't even know how to read.

Look Fairwood I may understand your frustration with wanting to live your life as you wish. Claiming that innocent 5yr olds are aroused sexually is quite disgusting and in my opinion perverted.
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FairwoodKing
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Mar 9, 2010 11:00pm
majorspark wrote:
FairwoodKing wrote: I never said I wanted to bang anyone when I was five years old. I only said that I got an erection looking at cowboys. As I got older, nothing in me changed. I still like looking at cowboys!

The point is that I have never gotten an erection from women, but I have gotten an erection from men as far back as I can remember. I have to assume I was born this way.
Five year olds are not getting a hard on over looking at cowboys or cowgirls. Most don't even know how to read.

Look Fairwood I may understand your frustration with wanting to live your life as you wish. Claiming that innocent 5yr olds are aroused sexually is quite disgusting and in my opinion perverted.
Whether you like it or not, it actually happened. I never said I could read or that I had sex with anybody. But it is a fact that I got aroused at the age of five. My most vivid early memories are of my arousals. There's nothing perverted about it. I'm sure little kids get a hard on because it happened to me.
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Be Nice
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Mar 9, 2010 11:05pm
Rule 4...Derogatory Slur removal -- Heretic Anybody care to name names? lol
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FairwoodKing
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Mar 9, 2010 11:09pm
Be Nice wrote: Rule 4...Derogatory Slur removal -- Heretic Anybody care to name names? lol
My name is R. Scott Carlton. If you google me, you will find out that I have written some books. I live in suburban Seattle.

You see, I have nothing to hide.

Now let's see you give your real name.
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Be Nice
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Mar 9, 2010 11:12pm
^^^Sorry, not interested. I'm married to a beautiful young lady and have a growing baby boy.
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FairwoodKing
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Mar 9, 2010 11:25pm
Be Nice wrote: ^^^Sorry, not interested. I'm married to a beautiful young lady and have a growing baby boy.
I'm not interested in you, either, so don't flatter yourself.
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WeAreNC
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Mar 9, 2010 11:25pm
erections while looking at cowboys at the age of 5? Cough .. Bullshit..cough. So fairwood who was the man of your relationships and who was the.. well. u know.
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FairwoodKing
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Mar 9, 2010 11:28pm
WeAreNC wrote: erections while looking at cowboys at the age of 5? Cough .. Bullshit..cough. So fairwood who was the man of your relationships and who was the.. well. u know.
No, I don't know. Tell me.
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WeAreNC
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Mar 9, 2010 11:29pm
i thought u had nothing to hide? Were you the tight end or the wide receiver?
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FairwoodKing
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Mar 9, 2010 11:30pm
WeAreNC wrote: erections while looking at cowboys at the age of 5? Cough .. Bullshit..cough. So fairwood who was the man of your relationships and who was the.. well. u know.
I don't know if others started as early as I did, but I swear I'm telling you the truth. I couldn't put a label on it until I was 18, but I have always been the way I am.
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FairwoodKing
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Mar 9, 2010 11:31pm
WeAreNC wrote: i thought u had nothing to hide? Were you the tight end or the wide receiver?
I have always been a top. That's probably what saved me from getting AIDS.
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FairwoodKing
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Mar 9, 2010 11:58pm
This thread has become more graphic than I expected it to be when I started it. But I will be happy to answer any of your questions. As I said before, I have nothing to hide.
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WeAreNC
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Mar 10, 2010 12:07am
Ok you said you have always been a TOP.. which probably saved you from getting Aids? What is a Top. and wouldn't a condom work just as well to prevent aids?