Homosexuality vs. religion

Serious Business Backup 594 replies 12,662 views
F
FairwoodKing
Posts: 2,504
Mar 10, 2010 6:42pm
The good news for the gay world is that today's younger generation is much more tolerant than the older generations. Everybody in the young world has friends that are gay or black or Jewish or Latino or Asian or whatever. This is a very good sign. Twenty or thirty years from now, we gays and lesbians will have our rights. I just hope I'm around to see it.
newarkcatholicfan's avatar
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Mar 10, 2010 6:50pm
God's gift to straight people,AIDS.
S
Society
Posts: 1,146
Mar 10, 2010 6:52pm
FairwoodKing wrote: The good news for the gay world is that today's younger generation is much more tolerant than the older generations. Everybody in the young world has friends that are gay or black or Jewish or Latino or Asian or whatever. This is a very good sign. Twenty or thirty years from now, we gays and lesbians will have our rights. I just hope I'm around to see it.
Do you consider gay people a race? You are gay. You don't deserve any special rights. What rights do you want that you don't already have?
F
FairwoodKing
Posts: 2,504
Mar 10, 2010 6:58pm
Society wrote:
FairwoodKing wrote: The good news for the gay world is that today's younger generation is much more tolerant than the older generations. Everybody in the young world has friends that are gay or black or Jewish or Latino or Asian or whatever. This is a very good sign. Twenty or thirty years from now, we gays and lesbians will have our rights. I just hope I'm around to see it.
Do you consider gay people a race? You are gay. You don't deserve any special rights. What rights do you want that you don't already have?
I just gave an example. Can't you read?
F
FairwoodKing
Posts: 2,504
Mar 10, 2010 7:14pm
When I was a young man, I was a devout Christian. I was also miserable. I was a total closet case and I kept trying to be straight. When I turned 30, I accepted what I was and did something about it. The first crack in my religion was when I finally understood that the Bible was completely wrong about me. I had no choice in what I was. I was just as gay when I was in the closet in my 20's as I was as a sexually active man in my 30's. At no point did I ever chose to be gay.

I started studying science in college and I realized how naive the Bible is about all sorts of things. As I grew older, I found many other fallacies in the Bible. This included a bevy of things that were factually wrong. I also started realizing that we are temporary. I no longer believe in the hereafter. I now realize that when we are dead, we are truly dead. It's lights out. There is no heaven, no hell, no judgment day, no nothing.

I do not consider homosexuality to be a sin because I do not believe in sin. I do very much believe in right and wrong, and I try to live a moral life. But the Bible is not a part of it.

I am the worst type of atheist for you to deal with because I am a former believer who finally saw the light. I am very comfortable with my belief system and have no intention of changing. Homosexual acts are not morally wrong if they are between two consenting adults. You will never convince me otherwise.
S
Society
Posts: 1,146
Mar 10, 2010 7:48pm
FairwoodKing wrote: When I was a young man, I was a devout Christian. I was also miserable. I was a total closet case and I kept trying to be straight. When I turned 30, I accepted what I was and did something about it. The first crack in my religion was when I finally understood that the Bible was completely wrong about me. I had no choice in what I was. I was just as gay when I was in the closet in my 20's as I was as a sexually active man in my 30's. At no point did I ever chose to be gay.

I started studying science in college and I realized how naive the Bible is about all sorts of things. As I grew older, I found many other fallacies in the Bible. This included a bevy of things that were factually wrong. I also started realizing that we are temporary. I no longer believe in the hereafter. I now realize that when we are dead, we are truly dead. It's lights out. There is no heaven, no hell, no judgment day, no nothing.

I do not consider homosexuality to be a sin because I do not believe in sin. I do very much believe in right and wrong, and I try to live a moral life. But the Bible is not a part of it.

I am the worst type of atheist for you to deal with because I am a former believer who finally saw the light. I am very comfortable with my belief system and have no intention of changing. Homosexual acts are not morally wrong if they are between two consenting adults. You will never convince me otherwise.
You are full of so many contradictions it's not even worth to deal with. Go on being gay. You talk of not believing in right and wrong, yet you try and say you live a moral life. No you don't.
F
FairwoodKing
Posts: 2,504
Mar 10, 2010 8:03pm
Society wrote:
FairwoodKing wrote: When I was a young man, I was a devout Christian. I was also miserable. I was a total closet case and I kept trying to be straight. When I turned 30, I accepted what I was and did something about it. The first crack in my religion was when I finally understood that the Bible was completely wrong about me. I had no choice in what I was. I was just as gay when I was in the closet in my 20's as I was as a sexually active man in my 30's. At no point did I ever chose to be gay.

I started studying science in college and I realized how naive the Bible is about all sorts of things. As I grew older, I found many other fallacies in the Bible. This included a bevy of things that were factually wrong. I also started realizing that we are temporary. I no longer believe in the hereafter. I now realize that when we are dead, we are truly dead. It's lights out. There is no heaven, no hell, no judgment day, no nothing.

I do not consider homosexuality to be a sin because I do not believe in sin. I do very much believe in right and wrong, and I try to live a moral life. But the Bible is not a part of it.

I am the worst type of atheist for you to deal with because I am a former believer who finally saw the light. I am very comfortable with my belief system and have no intention of changing. Homosexual acts are not morally wrong if they are between two consenting adults. You will never convince me otherwise.
You are full of so many contradictions it's not even worth to deal with. Go on being gay. You talk of not believing in right and wrong, yet you try and say you live a moral life. No you don't.
I have never contradicted myself on here. I do believe in right and wrong, but I do not use the Bible as a guide. I can think for myself. You should try it sometime.
F
FairwoodKing
Posts: 2,504
Mar 10, 2010 9:02pm
I just heard on ABC News that some American Christians have gone to Uganda and have stirred the pot so much about gays that the Ugandan government may pass a law that would put gays to death. People sheltering gays would be thrown in jail. Here is the link:

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/anti-homosexuality-bill-uganda-global-uproar/story?id=10045436

One of the American preachers said he wanted his anti-gay message to be heard throughout the world.

This is the kind of bullshit we're fighting. It is the preacher and the Ugandan leaders who should be punished.
W
WeAreNC
Posts: 192
Mar 10, 2010 9:06pm
So I take it you won't be visiting Uganda anytime soon?
S
Society
Posts: 1,146
Mar 10, 2010 9:06pm
FairwoodKing wrote: I just heard on ABC News that some American Christians have gone to Uganda and have stirred the pot so much about gays that the Ugandan government may pass a law that would put gays to death. People sheltering gays would be thrown in jail. Here is the link:

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/anti-homosexuality-bill-uganda-global-uproar/story?id=10045436

One of the American preachers said he wanted his anti-gay message to be heard throughout the world.

This is the kind of bullshit we're fighting. It is the preacher and the Ugandan leaders who should be punished.
The article brought up some good points. Good for them for standing up for what is right.
DeyDurkie5's avatar
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 10, 2010 9:09pm
WeAreNC wrote: So I take it you won't be visiting Uganda anytime soon?
I hate to say it, but I lol'ed
newarkcatholicfan's avatar
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Mar 10, 2010 9:13pm
Gotta love the Ugandan government if they put this in to play.
F
FairwoodKing
Posts: 2,504
Mar 10, 2010 9:29pm
newarkcatholicfan wrote: Gotta love the Ugandan government if they put this in to play.
What kind of asshole comment is that???

Killing people for what they are is not a laughing matter. If these damn preachers had their way, there would be the same laws in the United States.

It is people like me who are going to fight to see that this country never becomes another Uganda!
S
Society
Posts: 1,146
Mar 10, 2010 9:36pm
FairwoodKing wrote:
newarkcatholicfan wrote: Gotta love the Ugandan government if they put this in to play.
What kind of asshole comment is that???

Killing people for what they are is not a laughing matter. If these damn preachers had their way, there would be the same laws in the United States.

It is people like me who are going to fight to see that this country never becomes another Uganda!
Nope, not a laughing matter, but a serious one.
GoPens's avatar
GoPens
Posts: 2,339
Mar 10, 2010 10:16pm
newarkcatholicfan wrote: God's gift to straight people,AIDS.
Seriously. It's sad and hard to believe that a human being could actually say something like this. I'm speechless. You do know that straight people get AIDS too? Jackass.
W
WeAreNC
Posts: 192
Mar 10, 2010 10:19pm
yes they do. From Blood transfusions, dirty needles. but not from taking it up the ass..
GoPens's avatar
GoPens
Posts: 2,339
Mar 10, 2010 10:25pm
WeAreNC wrote: yes they do. From Blood transfusions, dirty needles. but not from taking it up the ass..
Who cares how you get it? Apparently only fucking homophobic fucking morons.
justincredible's avatar
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Mar 10, 2010 10:26pm
WeAreNC wrote: yes they do. From Blood transfusions, dirty needles. but not from taking it up the ass..
Are you kidding?
W
WeAreNC
Posts: 192
Mar 10, 2010 10:27pm
Don't hate. Appreciate!
justincredible's avatar
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Mar 10, 2010 10:28pm
WeAreNC wrote: Don't hate. Appreciate!
Seems like all the hate is coming from you (and your bro).
W
WeAreNC
Posts: 192
Mar 10, 2010 10:31pm
LOL. Why would I hate someone who is gay.. Thats more women for straight guys. Besides if someone is gay that is their business. It truly has no effect on my life. What I don't like though is hearing a gay guy talk with their lisp or whatever it's called when they know the person they are talking to is obviously straight. I joke on here.. in this thread just for reaction as I think a lot of people do..
DeyDurkie5's avatar
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 10, 2010 10:36pm
WeAreNC wrote: LOL. Why would I hate someone who is gay.. Thats more women for straight guys. Besides if someone is gay that is their business. It truly has no effect on my life. What I don't like though is hearing a gay guy talk with their lisp or whatever it's called when they know the person they are talking to is obviously straight. I joke on here.. in this thread just for reaction as I think a lot of people do..
It seems like you hate gay people in almost every post you have made on this thread. And let's not think for a second you can actually pull a chick lol
W
WeAreNC
Posts: 192
Mar 10, 2010 10:47pm
Durkie. I am the reason your mom left your dad. Now please deny that you come from a broken home now..
DeyDurkie5's avatar
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 10, 2010 10:52pm
WeAreNC wrote: Durkie. I am the reason your mom left your dad. Now please deny that you come from a broken home now..
It amazes me people like you actually exist lol
W
WeAreNC
Posts: 192
Mar 10, 2010 10:55pm
Denial is the 1st phase.